ISIS terrorists ambush and behead 10 Taliban fighters

[acid rain]

the point was something else... or maybe you are confirming what was already confirmed.



what freedom fighters??



isis, deriving from qaeda, is also partly deobandi.

The latter. .dude enough with the deobandi shit. ..the main backers of isis are the hizbul tahrir.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

how about the syrian army??

Low moral .. Dwindling support ...unprofessional conscripts using brutal methods with disregard for human life... Lossing half of the country ?

 

[Screambowl]

isis, deriving from qaeda, is also partly deobandi.

AQ is salafist / wahabi and Darul uloom Deoband has given Fatwa against them of course there could be some factions of them which believe in Deoband. And this can be utilized to divide them

 

[jamahir]

Low moral .. Dwindling support ...unprofessional conscripts using brutal methods with disregard for human life... Lossing half of the country ?

like i have said before, no south asian army would have been able to hold on if tens of thousands of cockroaches entered and all of nato were waiting to invade... the syrian army is lot more capable than any south asian army.

the libya and syria wars have been the biggest propaganda and disinfo operations ever... despite that, syrian army is not demoralized but holds on... it has been four years now and syria still stands despite the western governments and their slaves doing utmost to destroy, not only in syria but also in the uno.

watch this recording by a syrian army soldier, published by the famous "syrian girl"... it is worth proxying yt...

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AQ is salafist / wahabi and Darul uloom Deoband has given Fatwa against them of course there could be some factions of them which believe in Deoband. And this can be utilized to divide them

1. qaeda partly derives from the ikhwaan ( mb ) which itself was greatly inspired by tableeghi-jamaat/deoband.

2. it doesn't matter if deoband college has issued a fatwa against qaeda, the name... ideology is the same.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It will be a turf war at its bloodiest..Americans have significant presence in Afghanistan..and till they are there..Daesh will most likely not make any major movement. Daesh will most likely draw out recruits from the Taliban factions, and in some cases make alliances with breakaway one's. It's the question of gaining a foothold and the brutality they unleash will drive afghan people into neighboring countries..so will the taliban tribes...Some will withstand some will fall some will join.Net result is that Afghanistan will once again be a battleground for a major turf war that will go on for years.

Something like that but the bloody part has already started .. Just today I read a report that thousands have died this year alone... As NATO winds up .. Taliban come to power again...


Afghan army is probably worse than Iraqis ... No discipline .. Drug abusers,corrupt to the core (I have 2 AMDs .. Pretty sure they were sold by Afghan security forces- which were equipped with these by NATO)... Desertions on mass scale... Fratricide... And can't maintain itself .. Can't even keep its t-59s or Hinds airworthy .. The Spartans for example donated by USA.. were sold as scrap!!

And you expect them to fight a force like taliban ? Even small factions aligned with IS can't take them down...

As you said...nato and America has significantly weakened afghanistan similar to what they did in Iraq and Libya. ..and now yemen. Typical breeding ground for Daesh to make its move....and this is extensively reported and analysed by all major intelligence agencies.

Haha as if Afghanistan was ever governed by a real govt... They replaced taliban (who were ready to surrender after US invasion with a puppet and NA (that hated the majority Pashtuns).... And leashed NA on taliban ... And they took their revenge ... Instead of letting taliban return to their homes they massacres them and forced them back on the field... And today almost 15 years later they are threatening Afghan cities ..

Pakistan does have its weakness which can be utilised by Daesh....not saying that they will be successful.

Like what ?

Pak would only be threatened if its military collapsed or govt collapse and there is chaos.. Which is bevy to inpossible.

 

[Screambowl]

1. qaeda partly derives from the ikhwaan ( mb ) which was greatly inspired by tableeghi-jamaat/deoband.

2. it doesn't matter if deoband college has issued a fatwa against qaeda, the name... ideology is the same.

The ideology shifts from each other on the basis of Region.

Deobandis do not believe in Arab influence and that's why it was created to promote Subcontinent's interest on the working style of Ibn tehmiya and Wahab

Qaeda is an outfit to promote arab influence

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

like i have said before, no south asian army would have been able to hold on if tens of thousands of cockroaches entered and all of nato were waiting to invade... the syrian army is lot more capable than any south asian army.

the libya and syria wars have been the biggest propaganda and disinfo operations ever... despite that, syrian army is not demoralized but holds on... it has been four years now and syria still stands despite the western governments and their slaves doing utmost to destroy, not only in syria but also in the uno.

watch this recording by a syrian army soldier, published by the famous "syrian girl"... it is worth proxying yt...

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1. qaeda partly derives from the ikhwaan ( mb ) which itself was greatly inspired by tableeghi-jamaat/deoband.

2. it doesn't matter if deoband college has issued a fatwa against qaeda, the name... ideology is the same.

And Micky mouse is real.


Syrians were trained by us.. We even had a war veteran and an ace pilot Sir MuradK on this forum .. You should have read stories from his days as an instructor in ME countries training countless arab nationals..

 

[Nicky G]

IS marching towards Pak. Hope the aatami hatiyaar are safe.

 

[Zhukov]

Mar jao lar lar ke dono kamino.
Jaan choro hamari

 

[acid rain]

Something like that but the bloody part has already started .. Just today I read a report that thousands have died this year alone... As NATO winds up .. Taliban come to power again...


Afghan army is probably worse than Iraqis ... No discipline .. Drug abusers,corrupt to the core (I have 2 AMDs .. Pretty sure they were sold by Afghan security forces- which were equipped with these by NATO)... Desertions on mass scale... Fratricide... And can't maintain itself .. Can't even keep its t-59s or Hinds airworthy .. The Spartans for example donated by USA.. were sold as scrap!!

And you expect them to fight a force like taliban ? Even small factions aligned with IS can't take them down...




Haha as if Afghanistan was ever governed by a real govt... They replaced taliban (who were ready to surrender after US invasion with a puppet and NA (that hated the majority Pashtuns).... And leashed NA on taliban ... And they took their revenge ... Instead of letting taliban return to their homes they massacres them and forced them back on the field... And today almost 15 years later they are threatening Afghan cities ..





Like what ?

Pak would only be threatened if its military collapsed or govt collapse and there is chaos.. Which is bevy to inpossible.

Lol..something on the lines of the iraqi army or the Nigerian army against boko..or the Somalia army against al shabaab. That's of course what happens on the ground.

I guess territories will be divided similar to what's happened in Iraq or Syria. .Some strongholds will lie with NA (based on the continous backing it recieves), Daesh will be relentless if they gain a foothold and keep picking at rival faction territory..taliban do not have a professional army with air support...so holding on to complete territory will be difficult in the presence of a rival faction like Daesh...Both might lose some and win some..It will boil down to who makes the most impact on the other.

As for weakness...For one...you have a huge army of mullahs who subscribes to what the Daesh preaches.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lol..something on the lines of the iraqi army or the Nigerian army against boko..or the Somalia army against al shabaab. That's of course what happens on the ground.

I guess territories will be divided similar to what's happened in Iraq or Syria. .Some strongholds will lie with NA (based on the continous backing it recieves), Daesh will be relentless if they gain a foothold and keep picking at rival faction territory..taliban do not have a professional army with air support...so holding on to complete territory will be difficult in the presence of a rival faction like Daesh...Both might lose some and win some..It will boil down to who makes the most impact on the other.

As for weakness...For one...you have a huge army of mullahs who subscribes to what the Daesh preaches.

The mullah brigade has little support ... Which is evident since 47.., till date not a single ghar has been formed by the likes of Jamat e Harami or JUI... The best they do is tag along with the govt to get a useless ministry or lower officers..


The public again hates them and the extremist ideology (which is evident from several researches and polls).

 

[jamahir]

The ideology shifts from each other on the basis of Region.

Deobandis do not believe in Arab influence and that's why it was created to promote Subcontinent's interest on the working style of Ibn tehmiya and Wahab

Qaeda is an outfit to promote arab influence

despite wahabi element in qaeda, the deobandi influence runs from south east asia to russia/china to central asia to africa to europe.

the hodge-podge terrorist alliances called fsa and ntc are mix of wahabi and deobandi, plus some ayatollai ( via hamas and ij ).

And Micky mouse is real.

why should you say that??

Syrians were trained by us.. We even had a war veteran and an ace pilot Sir MuradK on this forum .. You should have read stories from his days as an instructor in ME countries training countless arab nationals..

pakistan may have given training but i am sure much of the syrian army tactics are more from ussr and local than from pakistan... there would also have been exchanges with north korea.

let me tag @Muradk and see if he can tell us more on this... in the meanwhile, i will search for his posts and understand his point of view.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

pakistan may have given training but i am sure much of the syrian army tactics are more from ussr and local than from pakistan... there would also have been exchanges with north korea.

let me tag @Muradk and see if he can tell us more on this... in the meanwhile, i will search for his posts and understand his point of view.

Lmao.. An army that uses barrel bombs on cities... Loses most of its territory to militants and that too in plains and deserts ... Easy terrain ., good luck believing propoganda.

Ohh Maan how many hard-points it has and where are Allah Guided Beyond Visual Range Missiles....

You bring in our Religion and God to troll ?


And if somebody replies or insults your religion .. Your *** lights up on fire?!

 

[acid rain]

The mullah brigade has little support ... Which is evident since 47.., till date not a single ghar has been formed by the likes of Jamat e Harami or JUI... The best they do is tag along with the govt to get a useless ministry or lower officers..


The public again hates them and the extremist ideology (which is evident from several researches and polls).

As I said..There are weaknesses that they can utilise but success or failure will be circumstantial..One more thing I noticed is that most divides are based on shia sunni..when it came to Iraq. .Syria. ..and now yemen..This divide is being created in Pakistan more prominently recently...though again...there is a weakness but it will depend on what happens during that phase.

 

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despite wahabi element in qaeda, the deobandi influence runs from south east asia to russia/china to central asia to africa to europe.

the hodge-podge terrorist alliances called fsa and ntc are mix of wahabi and deobandi, plus some ayatollai ( via hamas and ij ).
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Deoband is in India so we are in control of it I am sure our intel guys have good contacts with them. A single Fatwa may do the job in Subcontinent. Don't want headache of total central Asia.