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As far as I know(you can correct me if i'm wrong) Afghan Taliban are not as same as ISIS, as they are only entitled to or focused in Afghanistan and they don't have any hey or say in the neighboring countries(Pakistan, Iran, China, CAR) unlike ISIS.Lol Taliban jihadists fleeing from ISIS jihadists?? So seems ISIS jihadists are even more determined religious fighters than the Taliban?
Seems U S coalition forces will soon have to be supporting the Taliban and supplying them ammunitions against ISIS. Surprising turn of events. Lol
Are the ISIS members in Afghanistan Afghan citizen or foreigner?
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An Afghan soldier during an attack by Islamic State militants in Nangarhar Province in May. In expelling the Taliban from Tora Bora, the extremists gain an easily defended base, an Afghan official said.CreditGhulamullah Habibi/European Pressphoto Agency
KABUL, Afghanistan — Tora Bora, the mountain redoubt that was once Osama bin Laden’s fortress, fell to the Islamic State early Wednesday, handing the extremists a significant strategic and symbolic victory, according to Afghan officials and local elders and residents.
Taliban fighters who had previously controlled the extensive cave and tunnel complex fled overnight after a determined, weeklong assault by the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, according to villagers fleeing the area on Wednesday.
A local Afghan police official confirmed that the fortress had fallen. “ISIS has captured Tora Bora and areas around it,” he said. “The tribal elders are here in my office. They all escaped the area last night.” He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the news media.
Zabihullah Mujahid, the spokesman for the Taliban in that area, denied that Tora Bora had fallen to their rival insurgents. “Fighting is underway in the Tora Bora area between ISIS and our mujahedeen,” Mr. Mujahid said via the Viber messaging service. “It is the front line between our mujahedeen and ISIS. No one has advanced in the area.”
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He accused the United States of carrying out airstrikes in support of the Islamic State, but local officials and residents denied hearing any.
Residents said the Taliban had fled. “The Taliban escaped from the area last night and left us to ISIS with our women and children,” said Juma Gul, a tribal elder from the Suleymankhel Valley, close to Tora Bora, who said he was among hundreds of families who fled the area after the Islamic State took over. “There was no resistance by the Taliban against ISIS, and local tribes had no way to fight them anymore, so we just escaped.”
Hazrat Ali, a member of Parliament and a prominent warlord from the area who helped the Americans capture Tora Bora from Al Qaeda in 2001, said that the offensive was prompted by the American decision to drop the so-called mother of all bombs on an Islamic State network of tunnels in Achin District in April. The 20,000-pound bomb was thought to be the largest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed.
The Islamic State then decided to shift its refuge to the Tora Bora caves and tunnels, Mr. Ali said. “Some 1,000 ISIS militants were gathered close to Tora Bora, to capture the area,” Mr. Ali said. “I informed government forces to target them, and I told them they are trying to capture Tora Bora, but they did not pay attention.”
The militants now have not only an easily defended base at Tora Bora, Mr. Ali said, but also access to many other parts of Nangarhar Province through the Spin Ghar mountains along the Pakistan border, where Tora Bora sits. “ISIS has a stronghold and will capture these areas one after another,” he said.
Mr. Ali has extensive experience fighting against Al Qaeda in the area but has also been accused of having helped bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in December 2001, reportedly betraying his American and Afghan allies as they closed in on the Qaeda leadership.
Source: New York Times
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Bad omen this..
For Pak for obvious reasons.. since, only now Pak State and Pak People are beginning to see some sort of normal life... I fear the planners want to start more vicious attack once again. Nobody said that CPEC will get an easy, Green Pass. Enter the new Evil.
For China...the target is Xinjiang.. AF hellhole remains the spring board and exporter of terror products for those who have set factories of death there... OBOR/BRI will not get any free pass either.
For Russia and entire Central Asia... this is like knife ready at their soft underbelly. SCO will be tested and attempts will be to overwhelm it.
As the Sino-Pak-Rus Peace Iniative in AF hellhole was just gaining traction... we see hounds of hell being unleashed.
The US will be staying in AF for another decade since AF is a prime real estate to keep an eye on all SCO members and observer i.e. Iran.
Closing the AF-Pak border is first step but would not provide watertight security.
Sino-Pak-Rus Axis shall be developing new mechanisms in security and diplomatic vetors. If Iran can be fully onboard then this ISIL cancer can be dealt with by regional powers. It is going to be very bloody.
The allied forces in AF will be deploying more troops and indians will contribute troops as well. It is fight for Eurasia...nobody must lull themselves into peaceful fantasy.. it is Fight of Titans.. terrorism is an economic and effective tool. Let there be no illusions.
Bad omens...when combined with the mess in ME... things just don't happen in isolation. Sino-Pak Axis will remain on high alert for sometime to come. Kashmir burning... SCS. All interconnected.
CPEC MUST be protected at all costs!
Bro,Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces will have to take the initiative and send these "hounds of hell", to ...... hell.
US is evidently incapable (if not an accomplice) in handling ISIS in AF. There is a vacuum allowing terrorists to strengthen their foothold near Pakistani border which will not only have ramifications for CPEC, but also for Russia in the medium term. Putin has already shown his willingness to engage militarily in other regions to protect it's interests. It is the right time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to engage these terrorists in AF allying with AF TALIBAN and using Taliban's local intel and resources, rain hell on ISIS. Pakistan's experience in South Waziristan and Swat against TTP terrorists which comprise of more or less the same type of militia, will be priceless for the allied forces.
Only solution is Afghan Taliban backed by Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces on AF soil.
US will surely try to counter this by supporting ISIS and northern alliance kinda militia, however, US now does not have Pakistan on it's side like it had during the previous Afghan war and it's whore in the region - India, does not have the foothold inside Afghanistan like Pakistani Intelligence Agencies do.
Time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to kick US and it's terrorists out of the region. Iran will play ball and will never stand against such an alliance.
they ruled for 5 years, not 30 years.
Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces will have to take the initiative and send these "hounds of hell", to ...... hell.
US is evidently incapable (if not an accomplice) in handling ISIS in AF. There is a vacuum allowing terrorists to strengthen their foothold near Pakistani border which will not only have ramifications for CPEC, but also for Russia in the medium term. Putin has already shown his willingness to engage militarily in other regions to protect it's interests. It is the right time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to engage these terrorists in AF allying with AF TALIBAN and using Taliban's local intel and resources, rain hell on ISIS. Pakistan's experience in South Waziristan and Swat against TTP terrorists which comprise of more or less the same type of militia, will be priceless for the allied forces.
Only solution is Afghan Taliban backed by Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces on AF soil.
US will surely try to counter this by supporting ISIS and northern alliance kinda militia, however, US now does not have Pakistan on it's side like it had during the previous Afghan war and it's whore in the region - India, does not have the foothold inside Afghanistan like Pakistani Intelligence Agencies do.
Time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to kick US and it's terrorists out of the region. Iran will play ball and will never stand against such an alliance.
ISIS now knocking right at the doors of Pakistan. Praying that the patriotic Armed Forces of Pakistan blow them to smithereens, before these monsters inflict more damage to Pakistan.
Agree with all your points except money coming from cross border.At a time when he wasnt in the loop
Yes we believes in you
Pak Army is very professional and trained in fighting counter insurgency .Against those terrorists you dont have to think twice .You have to think only about clear military ops.
But in Kashmir ,they are our misguided people .We wont kill them .They are not terrorists like IS or TTP.
They are doing all this money that come across the border .
But against terrorists we wont think twice .
Dealings with terrorists is actually easier than dealings with people.
why are some of you so fond of Taliban?Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces will have to take the initiative and send these "hounds of hell", to ...... hell.
US is evidently incapable (if not an accomplice) in handling ISIS in AF. There is a vacuum allowing terrorists to strengthen their foothold near Pakistani border which will not only have ramifications for CPEC, but also for Russia in the medium term. Putin has already shown his willingness to engage militarily in other regions to protect it's interests. It is the right time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to engage these terrorists in AF allying with AF TALIBAN and using Taliban's local intel and resources, rain hell on ISIS. Pakistan's experience in South Waziristan and Swat against TTP terrorists which comprise of more or less the same type of militia, will be priceless for the allied forces.
Only solution is Afghan Taliban backed by Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces on AF soil.
US will surely try to counter this by supporting ISIS and northern alliance kinda militia, however, US now does not have Pakistan on it's side like it had during the previous Afghan war and it's whore in the region - India, does not have the foothold inside Afghanistan like Pakistani Intelligence Agencies do.
Time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to kick US and it's terrorists out of the region. Iran will play ball and will never stand against such an alliance.
Now even MOAB is useless against IS .Natural fortress of Tora Bora is strong enough to protect them.
Donot drag India into your mess.
Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces will have to take the initiative and send these "hounds of hell", to ...... hell.
US is evidently incapable (if not an accomplice) in handling ISIS in AF. There is a vacuum allowing terrorists to strengthen their foothold near Pakistani border which will not only have ramifications for CPEC, but also for Russia in the medium term. Putin has already shown his willingness to engage militarily in other regions to protect it's interests. It is the right time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to engage these terrorists in AF allying with AF TALIBAN and using Taliban's local intel and resources, rain hell on ISIS. Pakistan's experience in South Waziristan and Swat against TTP terrorists which comprise of more or less the same type of militia, will be priceless for the allied forces.
Only solution is Afghan Taliban backed by Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces on AF soil.
US will surely try to counter this by supporting ISIS and northern alliance kinda militia, however, US now does not have Pakistan on it's side like it had during the previous Afghan war and it's whore in the region - India, does not have the foothold inside Afghanistan like Pakistani Intelligence Agencies do.
Time for Sino-Pak-Rus allied forces to kick US and it's terrorists out of the region. Iran will play ball and will never stand against such an alliance.
Though they are religious fighters but they are confined to Afghanistan only,while ISIS is an International organization created with blessings of US.They haven't got world wide support or network like ISIS has got.Lol Taliban jihadists fleeing from ISIS jihadists?? So seems ISIS jihadists are even more determined religious fighters than the Taliban?