ISIS Captures Tora Bora, Once Bin Laden’s Afghan Fortress

[Areesh]

Afghan taliban would regroup and take it back. Bharati member are being too desperate in cheer leading for ISIS.

 

[Eagle_storm]

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/2/889948431?-746:760:0


It hard to survive there for a long time. Soon they will start killing their selves.

 

[jhungary]

its a significant move by ISIS, if i am not wrong Tora bora is close to Pakistan Border ..
what more weird is that today US killed a Haqqani commander inside Pakistan and yet they keep a blind eye over ISIS advancements .. now i refused to believe that US has no information about the intense battle been fought between ISIS and Taliban over a large area that include a large Forces from both Sides ..

@jhungary what will you say about this bro ? why US is keeping a blind eye over ISIS in Afghanistan ?

The question should be, what can the US do about it?

There are not enough resource in the area to do anything meaningful. We can bomb the ISIS target in Afghanistan (Which we did), then what can the US do to try stem the ISIS attacks?

The problem is that we don't have enough soldier to secure the whole Afghan (even when we are on ISAF deployment) the fighting have to be done by the local force, and the afghan force is doing the best that they can on the ISIS people, unless you are calling for a full on Afghan invasion, supported by international force again, I cannot see how US can help in this situation.

It's never about how much firepower we had, but it's always about how much firepower we can use in a region, with troop dawn down from 125,000 to 11,000, what can the US do in this situation that they did not already had done it?

 

[litman]

source new york times..so what are they planning now?they may claim that osama has come to life again and started his terrorists activities in tora bora. bloody liers.

 

[Jugger]

there is not fear with Pakistan. In fact we are itching for an opportunity to attack Afghanistan and end this Terrorism menace once in for all.
If we have access to Afghanistan like we have in Swat North Waziristan South Waziristan Bajour Kurram etc There will not be a single ISIS Complex left in Afghanistan they will not even have safe heaven to run to like they do now.
Its fear for your forces only who can only counter Stone pelters and 25 year old college dropouts turned militants against oppression of your forces. Trust me neither you nor your forces cant even dream about the level of training these Uzbek Tajik Terrorists have and the first hand account of stories from our soldiers who have fought them. We have pushed them back and Saved the whole Subcontinent from this Mess be thankfull or not.
We are Veterans at Fighting and Defeating a highly trained Terrorist Organizations Like ISIS TTP Shit. And Eradicating them from the roots Just like we did in FATA and KPK.
Just let US of A leave this region your Assets will not stand a chance and will be pulled out in months. Only Pakistan can eradicate them bye deploying ground troops with support of Local Afghans and other major regional powers like Russia Iran and China.
These puny measures and Dirty Power Games taken by USA and India cannot defeat this beast of Terrorism.

Actual fear is when the person sitting next to oneself pledges allegiance to isis and blows himself up for the caliphate.
This is the fear gripping the west, east and everyone in between.
Pakistan, bangladesh and india should be weary because they are not new to terrorism.
As for the stone pelters, you must have seen many of them carrying isis flags, so I think india is very lenient with them till now.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Lol Taliban jihadists fleeing from ISIS jihadists?? So seems ISIS jihadists are even more determined religious fighters than the Taliban?
Seems U S coalition forces will soon have to be supporting the Taliban and supplying them ammunitions against ISIS. Surprising turn of events. Lol

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Lol Taliban jihadists fleeing from ISIS jihadists?? So seems ISIS jihadists are even more determined religious fighters than the Taliban?
Seems U S coalition forces will soon have to be supporting the Taliban and supplying them ammunitions against ISIS. Surprising turn of events. Lol

Nope because then it will be your weapons fighting your weapons.

 

[BATMAN]

Now taliban fighters will jump to ISIS once taliban loses ground

Ok so that's what's in process... and than they will attack Pakistani villages, just like Iran revolution guards does in Baluchistan and India does in Kashmir.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Bad omen this..

For Pak for obvious reasons.. since, only now Pak State and Pak People are beginning to see some sort of normal life... I fear the planners want to start more vicious attack once again. Nobody said that CPEC will get an easy, Green Pass. Enter the new Evil.

For China...the target is Xinjiang.. AF hellhole remains the spring board and exporter of terror products for those who have set factories of death there... OBOR/BRI will not get any free pass either.

For Russia and entire Central Asia... this is like knife ready at their soft underbelly. SCO will be tested and attempts will be to overwhelm it.

As the Sino-Pak-Rus Peace Iniative in AF hellhole was just gaining traction... we see hounds of hell being unleashed.

The US will be staying in AF for another decade since AF is a prime real estate to keep an eye on all SCO members and observer i.e. Iran.

Closing the AF-Pak border is first step but would not provide watertight security.

Sino-Pak-Rus Axis shall be developing new mechanisms in security and diplomatic vetors. If Iran can be fully onboard then this ISIL cancer can be dealt with by regional powers. It is going to be very bloody.

The allied forces in AF will be deploying more troops and indians will contribute troops as well. It is fight for Eurasia...nobody must lull themselves into peaceful fantasy.. it is Fight of Titans.. terrorism is an economic and effective tool. Let there be no illusions.


Bad omens...when combined with the mess in ME... things just don't happen in isolation. Sino-Pak Axis will remain on high alert for sometime to come. Kashmir burning... SCS. All interconnected.

CPEC MUST be protected at all costs!

 

[mike2000 is back]

Nope because then it will be your weapons fighting your weapons.

How's that? I don't understand.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

How's that? I don't understand.

 

[khanmubashir]

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An Afghan soldier during an attack by Islamic State militants in Nangarhar Province in May. In expelling the Taliban from Tora Bora, the extremists gain an easily defended base, an Afghan official said.CreditGhulamullah Habibi/European Pressphoto Agency

KABUL, Afghanistan — Tora Bora, the mountain redoubt that was once Osama bin Laden’s fortress, fell to the Islamic State early Wednesday, handing the extremists a significant strategic and symbolic victory, according to Afghan officials and local elders and residents.

Taliban fighters who had previously controlled the extensive cave and tunnel complex fled overnight after a determined, weeklong assault by the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, according to villagers fleeing the area on Wednesday.

A local Afghan police official confirmed that the fortress had fallen. “ISIS has captured Tora Bora and areas around it,” he said. “The tribal elders are here in my office. They all escaped the area last night.” He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the news media.

Zabihullah Mujahid, the spokesman for the Taliban in that area, denied that Tora Bora had fallen to their rival insurgents. “Fighting is underway in the Tora Bora area between ISIS and our mujahedeen,” Mr. Mujahid said via the Viber messaging service. “It is the front line between our mujahedeen and ISIS. No one has advanced in the area.”

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He accused the United States of carrying out airstrikes in support of the Islamic State, but local officials and residents denied hearing any.

Residents said the Taliban had fled. “The Taliban escaped from the area last night and left us to ISIS with our women and children,” said Juma Gul, a tribal elder from the Suleymankhel Valley, close to Tora Bora, who said he was among hundreds of families who fled the area after the Islamic State took over. “There was no resistance by the Taliban against ISIS, and local tribes had no way to fight them anymore, so we just escaped.”

Hazrat Ali, a member of Parliament and a prominent warlord from the area who helped the Americans capture Tora Bora from Al Qaeda in 2001, said that the offensive was prompted by the American decision to drop the so-called mother of all bombs on an Islamic State network of tunnels in Achin District in April. The 20,000-pound bomb was thought to be the largest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed.

The Islamic State then decided to shift its refuge to the Tora Bora caves and tunnels, Mr. Ali said. “Some 1,000 ISIS militants were gathered close to Tora Bora, to capture the area,” Mr. Ali said. “I informed government forces to target them, and I told them they are trying to capture Tora Bora, but they did not pay attention.”

The militants now have not only an easily defended base at Tora Bora, Mr. Ali said, but also access to many other parts of Nangarhar Province through the Spin Ghar mountains along the Pakistan border, where Tora Bora sits. “ISIS has a stronghold and will capture these areas one after another,” he said.

Mr. Ali has extensive experience fighting against Al Qaeda in the area but has also been accused of having helped bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in December 2001, reportedly betraying his American and Afghan allies as they closed in on the Qaeda leadership.

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I believe every one should agree that now Pakistan must carry outbcross border operations to destroy Isis before they attack ud and also support Afghan Taliban against em

 

[Eagle_storm]

Look at the picture.
When i was a kid i used to watch news sometimes but the most heavy words come to my ear was al qaeda .
Today i guess everybody forgot al qaeda
Killing the osama or whatever
Killing the eman azwahiree

Whatever.

But i am sure people have forgot and about to forgot that alqaeda.

Now the US bring another shit known as ISIS but this time the people know this virus...
So isis the mother of alqaeda or another sht like alqaeda.

 

[313ghazi]

Nothing to worry about. Pakistan armed forces faced the worst against the Taliban/Al queda. We were not trained or equipped to fight a COIN campaign, we had no control of the territory the enemy were based in, they had been digging in there for years and years - yet through sacrifice today that region is in peace and is in our control. The world comes to learn from Pakistan. ISIS will cease to exist when it decides to fight the Pak Fauj,

 

[Eagle_storm]

Ok so that's what's in process... and than they will attack Pakistani villages, just like Iran revolution guards does in Baluchistan and India does in Kashmir.

No joining
No single bullet will be fire against Pakistan.
Emirat i islami Afghanistan are the best fighter but against the non muslims.