ISI under fire for failure to prevent Quetta bombing.

[Amaa'n]

Well i don't get why people get all in arms when someone Criticizes ISI( and other Intelligence Agencies) .

After 26/11 public and press hammered Indian Intelligence Agencies ( RAW and all) forcing government to take many radical steps . ( Even a couple of new agencies were formed) .

Few years down the line the terrorist attacks have nosedived to rock bottom . ( While it is not all because of Intel agencies , completely , other geo-political factors have played it's part yet ) .

No govt. agency is above criticism . They are there to serve people and not the other way around .

Also a saying goes " To know who rules over you , think who you cannot criticize" .

Noone is taking sides, this case is different and falls with internal security agencies, it doesn't even fall with isi, however they are still doing t. It lies with IB and CID, which have been made toothless by these politicians.
You guys were lucky because your leaders took the Dtand and ordered the restructuring, our leaders cannot even agree on interm govt how can they decide on law and order

 

[Saleem]

IS is a job for the IB/ MoI under the british deputy viceroy these days aka RM. ISI is only responsible for external military operations in country---this is a RAW/KHAD/you-know-who run operation run by ostensibly "civilian" agencies...

 

[Cherokee]

Noone is taking sides, this case is different and falls with internal security agencies, it doesn't even fall with isi, however they are still doing t. It lies with IB and CID, which have been made toothless by these politicians.
You guys were lucky because your leaders took the Dtand and ordered the restructuring, our leaders cannot even agree on interm govt how can they decide on law and order

What i mean to Say is whether it's ISI job or IB or CID , whoever has this job has definitely not done it too well in past few years . They should be held accountable for it , if done properly , it goes a long way improving the standards of organization which in turn will benefit Pakistan as a whole .

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

This is failure of government. Even after years, they are failed to bring clear policy for war against terrorism. There are division on many issues.This is clearly failure of government.

 

[Amaa'n]

What i mean to Say is whether it's ISI job or IB or CID , whoever has this job has definitely not done it too well in past few years . They should be held accountable for it , if done properly , it goes a long way improving the standards of organization which in turn will benefit Pakistan as a whole .

The problem is these agencies have more stoogEs of political parties , most of the people in it for the larks and power so they cant hold them accountable

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

First: Pakistan should ask Arabs to cut supporting Mullahs in their country; their money is the source of all the evil of Shai Sunni proxy war

Second: What is the grantee that for any army action they won't be demonized by the media under militant pressure and their links with the media?

Third: enemy's enemy is a friend ; so if Pak army starts a war on militancy what is the grantee that India and Afghan will not give hide outs and support to the militants fighting against Pak army ?

 

[Saleem]

What i mean to Say is whether it's ISI job or IB or CID , whoever has this job has definitely not done it too well in past few years . They should be held accountable for it , if done properly , it goes a long way improving the standards of organization which in turn will benefit Pakistan as a whole .

the ones to be held accountable should be the RAW and indian army personnel in charge to war crimes and crimes against humanity now and in the past [kashmir, east bengal etc.]

 

[Cherokee]

the ones to be held accountable should be the RAW and indian army personnel in charge to war crimes and crimes against humanity now and in the past [kashmir, east bengal etc.]

This is Jurassic Era Flatulence which occurs amongst newly joined Pakistani Members . I hope you will get past this and not make every thread stink with the sheer impunity of your off topic farts .

 

[muse]

First: Pakistan should ask Arabs to cut supporting Mullahs in their country; their money is the source of all the evil of Shai Sunni proxy war

Second: What is the grantee that for any army action they won't be demonized by the media under militant pressure and their links with the media?

Third: enemy's enemy is a friend ; so if Pak army starts a war on militancy what is the grantee that India and Afghan will not give hide outs and support to the militants fighting against Pak army ?

first - the Arabs don't really care because as far as they are concerned, it's part of their religion, that's where the idea of Shia kafir, takfir, comes from

Second - If Pakistan ARMY decides to move past Islamism, there will so much international pressure on India and on any other to ensure it's success that you will be amazed - see, Pakistan is Islamism central, that's why there is so much concern - and Pakistan Army knows this and actually promotes this notion - they think that if they hold a gun to their own heads, the world will come to hep them (just look at the kinds of weapons Pakistan seeks to secure, none of them have utility in killing the Islamist) -

Third - The Army is not into politics of popularity - it should be giving govt confidence that it will do whatever govt orders regardless of politics - See, the army just has to be out of politics or at least play the game much more smartly than it does - Army plays crude and cruel politics, not savvy politics, because it does not know how, does not know how to project itself as servant of the state and nation, does not know how to present itself to the media and how to use the media -- So it should, for the time being, it should do what it's job description is, kill the enemies of the state and nation.

 

[F.O.X]

ISI is not responsible for any internal threat , when will you idiots understand ?

 

[Aslan]

internal security is the job of the interior ministry not ISI. rehman malik should resign

And how many times would that be now, lol.

 

[ice_man]

CIA failed to see the 9/11 attacks then it failed to see that there were no WMD in Iraq! so should CIA chiefs be court martialed?

the problem with terrorists is that some always manage to get through specially when the case is about sucide bombing a decade in afghanistan and the US and NATO allies couldn't stop these psychos bombers. it is easier said then done!

people only remember the goals that go in not the ones stopped by the goal keeper!

hence the intelligence agencies if they stop an attack NO ONE FINDS OUT!

ISI is not responsible for any internal threat , when will you idiots understand ?

leave them they will never understand! everything that happens is firstly blamed on the ISI! hence ISI is losing the battle of media it is made to look lik the demon behind all evil! which we all know is not the case!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

And how many times would that be now, lol.

Probably 200-250 bomb blasts ago

 

[jaibi]

We simply cannot wait for a brick to fall and then call up the contractor and blame him. We need to scrutinise the structure before we step in. Blaming any agency afterwards is useless. The Hazara-Shia community is under threat, we know that, we need concrete steps to address this and mind you this is not just the job of the intelligence agencies. Let's make up a plan against this cancer rather than look for momentary reliefs.

 

[indushek]

First time in life feel bad for ISI these days every body in Pakistan is cursing ISI for every thing.