Is the Chinese Military Weaker Than We Think?

[Beast]

Did I offer any excuse?
What excuse do chinese have that India continues to occupy Arunachal or South Tibet?
What excuse do Pakistanis have that India continues to hold Siachin?
Trolling has a limit.

Yah, becos indian say so , so it must be correct? Indian are prove to be liar. Nehru start aggression on Chinese and then lie thru their own mouth that Chinese attack them first. This is comfirm by BBC report.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Yah, becos indian say so , so it must be correct? Indian are prove to be liar. Nehru start aggression on Chinese and then lie thru their own mouth that Chinese attack them first. This is comfirm by BBC report.

Whatever.You have neither courage nor capability to take south tibet back from Indian occupation. Please learn to live with it. Period.

 

[Kloitra]

According to India's own internal military report, the Henderson-Brooks report, India attacked us:

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war - The Times of India

India attacked us, while we were in the middle of the worst famine in our entire history (Great leap forward), and we were on the verge of collapse from starvation.

No, this is opinion of Maxwell, not the report. The report doesn't say India attacked first.

 

[Abotani]

1962 war between china and India.
Indian military strength in war 10,000 vs chinese 80,000.
Indian casualty - 1400 killed, 1700 missing, 4000 POW, 1000 wounded. SURRENDERED - none.
Indians were outnumbered 1 : 8 and 8 out of 10 Indian soldiers were casualty.
Indian Army did not raise white flag nor surrendered before a superior enemy.
Indians have no shame in accepting the military defeat and all loss of territory in 1962. Victory and defeat is part of any game or war. What makes us proud is that our soldiers fought till their last breathe knowing that there is no back up, no supplies and enemy is well equipped, well prepared and more in numbers .... Hats off to them. Jai Hind.

That's because they were busy running away from the PLA as fast as they could,not due to some brave,heroic,"patriotic" reasons.Simple as that.When an enemy is routing you at will and doesn't seem to be too keen on prisoners,people usually fight to death or run away.Indian soldiers usually did the latter in 62.

 

[Razia Sultana]

That's because they were busy running away from the PLA as fast as they could,not due to some brave,heroic,"patriotic" reasons.Simple as that.When an enemy is routing you at will and doesn't seem to be too keen on prisoners,people usually fight to death or run away.Indian soldiers usually did the latter in 62.

Read the numbers of killed,wounded, and captured in my post and then write if they fought till they lasted or ran away. You people are so blinded that you refuse to see the facts. I will repeat for you. Out of 10,000 soldiers 1400 martyred, 1000 wounded, 1700 missing (meaning either captured or dead) and 4000 captured. It does not require much IQ to understand that this army did not run away. How did the battle end? Did India offer to surrender? No, it was a unilateral ceasefire by PLA. If what you think is right then Indian Army would have avoided head on with PLA in 1967.

 

[Abotani]

Read the numbers of killed,wounded, and captured in my post and then write if they fought till they lasted or ran away. You people are so blinded that you refuse to see the facts. I will repeat for you. Out of 10,000 soldiers 1400 martyred, 1000 wounded, 1700 missing (meaning either captured or dead) and 4000 captured. It does not require much IQ to understand that this army did not run away. How did the battle end? Did India offer to surrender? No, it was a unilateral ceasefire by PLA. If what you think is right then Indian Army would have avoided head on with PLA in 1967.

Yeah right,the terrain of AP/south tibet is so rough that most Indians who were 'wounded' or missing or captured were simply victims to the terrain and lack of supplies.How else does a winning army capture losers if not for the losers surrendering?Maybe PLA soldiers had special stun weapons back then that they captured 40% of Indian soldiers when they didn't surrender?
You are so naive and drunk on Indian spinning off a shameful defeat to even remember the basic fact of war,particularly in these rough terrains that no sides like taking prisoners,particularly the spearhead crack troops.Heck,many times the spearhead troops kill off even surrendering enemies.
BTW IA has always avoided head on attempts against PLA since 62.That is why large swathes of land fell into chinese control even after 62 was over.There are whole mountains and hills where the Indians no longer hold control and you mainlanders are none the wiser.Only to mouth off your complete ignorance of this land.
What's next you are going to tell me AP/south tibet is an IA fortress like some other deluded Indian?

 

[Razia Sultana]

Yeah right,the terrain of AP/south tibet is so rough that most Indians who were 'wounded' or missing or captured were simply victims to the terrain and lack of supplies.How else does a winning army capture losers if not for the losers surrendering?Maybe PLA soldiers had special stun weapons back then that they captured 40% of Indian soldiers when they didn't surrender?
You are so naive and drunk on Indian spinning off a shameful defeat to even remember the basic fact of war,particularly in these rough terrains that no sides like taking prisoners,particularly the spearhead crack troops.Heck,many times the spearhead troops kill off even surrendering enemies.
BTW IA has always avoided head on attempts against PLA since 62.That is why large swathes of land fell into chinese control even after 62 was over.There are whole mountains and hills where the Indians no longer hold control and you mainlanders are none the wiser.Only to mouth off your complete ignorance of this land.
What's next you are going to tell me AP/south tibet is an IA fortress like some other deluded Indian?

Indians were fighting with inferior ww2 weaponry with short supply of ammo. If you feel so proud about defeating unprepared Indian Army then why you lack guts to liberate the south tibet? When you pat your own back in bravado then status of south tibet kicks in your you know where. The fact is people of south tibet sport Indian Passport and all you can do is to give them attached visas.
Stop trolling now.

 

[dray]

this is whats called a brainwashed simpleton in delusion,

your western equipped incompetent indians got humiliated by few poorly geared border units, most of you lot were surrendered without a fight``besides the theatre was in much favor to the India army``

and the 1:8 is a clear evidence to demonstrate that you have zero clue of how battle is fought```you deluded Indian

there were zero facts you stated, only bollywood propaganda and delusion``the cowardness and incompetence was the only impression your funny army displaced in 1962````there was no excuse for your utter defeat

Chinese army was showing their bravery till the time they had huge number and equipment advantage, they ran away when India decided to send reinforcement. The war ended in a stalemate.


@Razia Sultana don't expect any logical debate with the Chinese, it is futile, they are very different.

Indian military got massacred by the PLA.
End of story.

This was a military confrontation to see who is the superior country, superior military and above all, who is the superior civilisation.
PLA victory over the Indian military proved China, Chinese people and Chinese civilisation is vastly superior to India, Indian people and Indian civilisation.

That humiliating and spirit-crushing defeat inflicted mental scars on the entire Indian population because India realised it is an inferior country and people to its historical neighbour China.

From 1962, China always looked down on India and Indians as defeated people. That's why China don't even care for India. China proved its superiority once in for all in 1962.

China has now moved on and become a truly independent country with an independent foreign policy, while India is still stuck in the past being a mere pawn to the West.

China views India as a defeated country ever since 1962.

Rather,

Chinese military got massacred by the IA in 1967.
End of story.

This was a military confrontation to see who is the superior country, superior military and above all, who is the superior civilisation.
IA victory over the Chinese military proved India, Indian people and Indian civilisation is vastly superior to China, Chinese people and Chinese civilisation.

That humiliating and spirit-crushing defeat inflicted mental scars on the entire Chinese population because China realised it is an inferior country and people to its historical neighbour India.

From 1967, India always looked down on China and Chinese as defeated people. That's why India don't even care for China. India proved its superiority once in for all in 1967.

India has now moved on and become a truly independent country with an independent foreign policy, while China is still stuck in the past being a mere pawn of the CCP rulers.

India views China as a defeated country ever since 1967.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

According to India's own internal military report, the Henderson-Brooks report, India attacked us:

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war - The Times of India

India attacked us, while we were in the middle of the worst famine in our entire history (Great leap forward), and we were on the verge of collapse from starvation.

That was your best ever opportunity.



You think we were more prepared in 1962 when we were in the middle of a famine, and at the weakest point in our history, than we are today in 2015?

I hope you guys really believe that.

Don;t give these whitewashed version of history.

 

[Abotani]

Indians were fighting with inferior ww2 weaponry with short supply of ammo. If you feel so proud about defeating unprepared Indian Army then why you lack guts to liberate the south tibet? When you pat your own back in bravado then status of south tibet kicks in your you know where. The fact is people of south tibet sport Indian Passport and all you can do is to give them attached visas.
Stop trolling now.

Yeah and who told the IA to be armed with that?End of the day,myths of human wave attacks in 62 or the outdated weaponry are just face saving measures of Indians.Period.The PLA itself was ill armed and ill supplied-the reason it withdrew after a month into the campaign and Indians were completely wiped out.That is why the retreated and took their helpers from the regions along with them in order to save them from the inevitable Indian backlash against civvies.Just like the existence of your "nation" and your "independence",AP/south tibet too is a gift of the unexpected outcomes in history nothing more.If China wasn't going through such a fragile stage of it's life as a re-unified nation,,if it's situation was even a tad bit better,history would have turned out completely different.
BTW,funny you are talking of Indian passports and citizenship,for I have one.The only reason the people of AP/south tibet didn't rise up against you people is simply too an unexpected gift,an out come of the Chinese victory and the stigma and trauma that Indians faced when faced with dealing with this region and in the end left the region to its own device..If the chinese had not crushed you,no doubt we too would have been subject to the same genocidal campaigns of IA that the nagas,mizos,manipuris and kashmiris went through

So please,don't lose your composure when the truth and facts hit you and you desperately cling to straws and lash out with them in order to preserve the pre-conceived notions passed as facts to you.

 

[Beidou2020]

Chinese army was showing their bravery till the time they had huge number and equipment advantage, they ran away when India decided to send reinforcement. The war ended in a stalemate.


@Razia Sultana don't expect any logical debate with the Chinese, it is futile, they are very different.



Rather,

Chinese military got massacred by the IA in 1967.
End of story.

This was a military confrontation to see who is the superior country, superior military and above all, who is the superior civilisation.
IA victory over the Chinese military proved India, Indian people and Indian civilisation is vastly superior to China, Chinese people and Chinese civilisation.

That humiliating and spirit-crushing defeat inflicted mental scars on the entire Chinese population because China realised it is an inferior country and people to its historical neighbour India.

From 1967, India always looked down on China and Chinese as defeated people. That's why India don't even care for China. India proved its superiority once in for all in 1967.

India has now moved on and become a truly independent country with an independent foreign policy, while China is still stuck in the past being a mere pawn of the CCP rulers.

India views China as a defeated country ever since 1967.

All India has are imaginary 'wars' created by the propaganda machine by the Indian elite to brainwash the Indian public to keep the legitimacy of the thuggish Hindu regime going.

There has only been one war between China and India and that was the 1962 war. China once in for all proved its superiority over the religious-fanatic Indians in that war and ever since then China views India as nothing but a disease-filled, dirty, backward country which China destroyed and completely embarrassed.

China not only destroyed the Indian military but inflicted 50 years of psychological scars on a generation of Indians.

India is not even a challenge to China anymore.
China was satisfied after the 1962 humiliation of India.
Indian pride was torn to shreds.
India challenged and lost to a military and country that is superior to India in every way.
China don't take India seriously because it's meaningless to take a defeated country seriously.
India is scared and ashamed, live with the shock.
Keep it bottled up inside you!

 

[dray]

I see bots don't get to know a lot of things.

And a false-flagger has joined the orgy.

We hold and will forever continue to hold 90,000 sq.km. of very beautiful Chinese territory as claimed by China, and China can't do a jack about it other than living with this perpetual humiliation.

Here is our Arunachal Pradesh, you guys can keep sobbing.

 

[The Headache]

Yup.

Anyone wanna know how strong the PLA is, just ask the Indian military.

Indian military got massacred.

Nathu La skirmish! IA made Chicken tikka out of the mutilated hands and other body parts of PLA soldiers.

All India has are imaginary 'wars' created by the propaganda machine by the Indian elite to brainwash the Indian public to keep the legitimacy of the thuggish Hindu regime going.

There has only been one war between China and India and that was the 1962 war. China once in for all proved its superiority over the religious-fanatic Indians in that war and ever since then China views India as nothing but a disease-filled, dirty, backward country which China destroyed and completely embarrassed.

China not only destroyed the Indian military but inflicted 50 years of psychological scars on a generation of Indians.

India is not even a challenge to China anymore.
China was satisfied after the 1962 humiliation of India.
Indian pride was torn to shreds.
India challenged and lost to a military and country that is superior to India in every way.
China don't take India seriously because it's meaningless to take a defeated country seriously.
India is scared and ashamed, live with the shock.
Keep it bottled up inside you!

Okay ! Have you seen photos of your dead soldiers without hands and legs ? Probably not because you guys like to live in an ignorant world.