Is Pakistan a soft state?

[Indus Pakistan]

Don't buy it, its just scare mongering by Dawn. There are plenty of police

I hope so. My concern is Mullah Diesel gets desperate and sends his 10,000s of religious brainwashed zombies down Kashmir Avenue to the red zone and police fail to hold back the crowds where they create chaos. That would make Pakistan look like a peeled yellow banana !

 

[pakpride00090]

Asad Durrani is the person who admitted that ISI was illegally involved in narcotics trade to generate money.

And this guy was the one under who it was deliberated that Kabul should be razed and bombed.

Same guy, under who the entire Soviet mistake was made.

Asad is the same person who admitted to politically manufacturing the elections with ISI in favor of Nawaz Sharif.

What are you talking about. Genius? Comically evil!

To me , he is an incredible general..
If I was the general of Army , I would have done the same thing. Selling Drugs and narcotics to hostile countries to generate money is a commendable job if it serves national interest. Money generated through Drugs should be used to fund weapons purchases and carrying out actions that benefited Pakistan. Remember , national interest is amoral. If Pakistanis will not adopt selfish mentality then all is lost. No such thing like ethics and morals when it comes to securing national interest.

I would even go far and state that intelligence agencies , in addition of drug trade , should use all illegal and legal methods to subdue the enemy. Prostitution , kidnapping , extortion , murder , ponzi scheme and etc should be done in other countries and the money generated through that should be channeled in Pakistan. Companies like Axact should be opened that can covertly send money to Pakistan.

And he was right. Kabul should have been razed and bombed. Destruction of Kabul serve our interest. Kill all Kabuli Afghans if it serve our interest.

 

[Lincoln]

Sit on's and blocking capital in Pakistan was introduced by PTI and TLP took that to new heights.

TLP didn't even last man.

Nothing will top PTI. Paralyzed capital for 4 months, threatened to hang, did it when there was much spread terrorism and Pakistan was fighting and struggling against terrorists, ordered everyone to do civil disobedience by not paying taxes, attacked PTV, red zone.

To me , he is an incredible general..
If I was the general of Army , I would have done the same thing. Selling Drugs and narcotics to hostile countries to generate money is a commendable job if it serves national interest. Money generated through Drugs should be used to fund weapons purchases and carrying out actions that benefited Pakistan. Remember , national interest is amoral. If Pakistanis will not adopt selfish mentality then all is lost. No such thing like ethics and morals when it comes to securing national interest.

I would even go far and state that intelligence agencies , in addition of drug trade , should use all illegal and legal methods to subdue the enemy. Prostitution , kidnapping , extortion , murder , ponzi scheme and etc should be done in other countries and the money generated through that should be channeled in Pakistan. Companies like Axact should be opened that can covertly send money to Pakistan.

And he was right. Kabul should have been razed and bombed. Destruction of Kabul serve our interest. Kill all Kabuli Afghans if it serve our interest.

One phrase, you will get it.

Islamic Republic, my ***.

Second phrase.

Allah tumhein hidayat dei. Can you stand in front of God if you do all that?

 

[The Eagle]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mola...g-isprs-press-statement.641692/#post-11870331

How did PTI not break any of these parameters?

Don't mind but you have some comprehension issue, you can ask for further explanation instead of putting your words in my mouth or making such allegations... here is my post, try to understand the same in two contexts being discussed... the peaceful sit as compare to violence/disruption/chaos etc...

The instability word was in regard to Maulana or anyone else dreaming of any unrest/chaos/armed clashes or forceful breach of security parameters. What happened to TLP, is evident. Faizabad sit was peaceful but their other conduct was dealt accordingly hence, military said that wouldn't take action against peaceful protesters. I don't see the need to explain the same further on merit.

 

[pakpride00090]

lol Pakistan was perceived to be just that and it failed. All we got was more poverty and terrorism.

The important thing was that it was " perceived ". Perception and reality are totally different thing. At least then , America and India wouldn't have messed with us like the way they are messing with us right now.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Sit on's and blocking capital in Pakistan was introduced by PTI and TLP took that to new heights.

That is just iteration of 'mob power' which has been there from day one. Your just splitting hairs to place PTI in the dock.

 

[Lincoln]

To be frank Maulana isn't doing march for Pakistan either.He is corrupt to core.

I agree. Which is the only reason I can't support it either. But I do support what the people want.

Don't mind but you have some comprehension issue, you can ask for further explanation instead of putting your words in my mouth or making such allegations... here is my post, try to understand the same in two contexts being discussed... the peaceful sit as compare to violence/disruption/chaos etc...

Okay, it only works in context of Faizabad sit-in and this march is what you're saying. Haha, okay.

 

[The Eagle]

How did PTI not break any of these parameters?

The discussion was related to Maulana's allegations/threats and then ISPR's response. How come this relates to PTI illegal conduct back in days.... Stop twisting and mixing two different subjects for your own credibility and that wasn't expected from you,,,,, at-least I didn't expect so sorry to say ... please spare me off this political mudslinging.

Okay, it only works in context of Faizabad sit-in and this march is what you're saying. Haha, okay.

Let's be clear & unbiased and why don't you quote the complete pretext under which, I replied on other thread. Trolling is not going to serve any purpose except the count of posts and I am not interested.

 

[pakpride00090]

TLP didn't even last man.

Nothing will top PTI. Paralyzed capital for 4 months, threatened to hang, did it when there was much spread terrorism and Pakistan was fighting and struggling against terrorists, ordered everyone to do civil disobedience by not paying taxes, attacked PTV, red zone.



One phrase, you will get it.

Islamic Republic, my ***.

Second phrase.

Allah tumhein hidayat dei. Can you stand in front of God if you do all that?

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The only thing that matters to me is the safety, security and well being of Pakistanis. Every single method( legal , illegal , unethical , ethical , moral or immoral ) should be used. If any method secures the interest of our people and state then so be it. Morality and ethics can take the backseat.

 

[Sine Nomine]

That is just iteration of 'mob power' which has been there from day one. Your just splitting hairs to place PTI in the dock.

Excuse my backwardness regarding subject in hand,i can't see a major political sit in,in entire history of Pakistan before 2014,which attacked state institutes.

The only thing that matters to me is the safety, security and well being of Pakistanis. Every single method( legal , illegal , unethical , ethical , moral or immoral ) should be used. If any method secures the interest of our people and state then so be it. Morality and ethics can take the backseat.

We did same in 1971,you can see the result.

 

[The Eagle]

Okay, it only works in context of Faizabad sit-in and this march is what you're saying. Haha, okay.

This is your post from other thread and my reply was, as shared above (coloured). Why did you stoop such low merely to satisfy your political differences in such manners. There was no mention of PTI by you.... .having some sort of memory loss or what???

Your post...

Faizabad sit in: force should not be used against our own people.

This time: we will not let instability take place.

Maybe ISPR should clear what he is referring to.

My reply....

The instability word was in regard to Maulana or anyone else dreaming of any unrest/chaos/armed clashes or forceful breach of security parameters. What happened to TLP, is evident. Faizabad sit was peaceful but their other conduct was dealt accordingly hence, military said that wouldn't take action against peaceful protesters. I don't see the need to explain the same further on merit.

then how come the same relates to your low level jibe like this one...

@The Eagle thinks however army implying force this time is justified.

Exactly presents the picture of miseries of Pakistanis into the hands of political clowns.

 

[Sine Nomine]

TLP didn't even last man.

Nothing will top PTI. Paralyzed capital for 4 months, threatened to hang, did it when there was much spread terrorism and Pakistan was fighting and struggling against terrorists, ordered everyone to do civil disobedience by not paying taxes, attacked PTV, red zone.

PTI told everyone that captial can be blocked and Govt can be paralysed.Fazlu hasn't brain he is copying PTI.

 

[El Sidd]

Did Pakistan become nuclear power in 2018 after Moses parted the seas in GE2018?

The sitting PM blames State of Pakistan for Genocide in East Pakistan.

 

[pakpride00090]

Excuse my backwardness regarding subject in hand,i can't see a major political sit in,in entire history of Pakistan before 2014,which attacked state institutes.


We did same in 1971,you can see the result.

Unfortunately we didn't . Had we done that , I am pretty sure Bangladesh would have been East Pakistan right now. Mujib would have been eliminated after Agartala incident 1962.

 

[Lincoln]

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The only thing that matters to me is the safety, security and well being of Pakistanis. Every single method( legal , illegal , unethical , ethical , moral or immoral ) should be used. If any method secures the interest of our people and state then so be it. Morality and ethics can take the backseat.

You have seen his interview and are just adopting his voice thinking it makes you look like a smartass or something.

He believes that morality and ethics should take a backseat. So, you are ready to kill, murder, ruin lives, do whatever you can because you perceive it would've been good for National interest.

Now if you're still a Muslim, ask yourself what the Prophet phuh would've thought of this opinion of yours, if you're not a Muslim then you don't need to imagine this scenario.

You should rot in a jail cell, and so should Asad Durrani and everyone of the elite in Pakistan who knew what he and ISI were upto but intentionally supported him.