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Is our success dependent on english ?

How long this process took ? 100-200 years ? Which year were those ? 1100-1200. Arabic knowledge itself was based on the lating greek indian scriptures and can you give me an example how European nations progressed on Arabic knowledge ? Because as far as I know, 1600,1700,1800,1900 scientists (Newton, Maxwell, Faraday, Galileo, Marconni, ) all those who contributed to Industrial revolution, Physics, Astronomy as well as Electro magnetism, medicines, they discovered all those things by themselves.
Youtube bbc how islam brought europe out of dark ages! I am sure if it was peetv you would have argued but since its bbc you will accept every word as fact and stoo arguing!

Issue with Pakistani qoum azaadi keh baad bhi gooray ki ghulami!!

Sir knowledge should be accessible to everyone and anyone and in case of Pakistan where majority is uneducated but can speak and understand urdu i am sure they will benifit if they could read and write and understand knowledge if it was in language they are comfortable in!!
 
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@DESERT FIGHTER

Aww yeah bro. Now these Indians are trying to work through the cracks. Weak shit. I expected brotherhood from you. Especially after getting banned 1001 times just because someone said something about you. WEAK.
Screw the old troll...

I support you too.. and i back you up on like 99% times... but not on this... weak or not... i dont support talk sht to Pak female posters...
 
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Youtube bbc how islam brought europe out of dark ages! I am sure if it was peetv you would have argued but since its bbc you will accept every word as fact and stoo arguing!

Issue with Pakistani qoum azaadi keh baad bhi gooray ki ghulami!!

Sir knowledge should be accessible to everyone and anyone and in case of Pakistan where majority is uneducated but can speak and understand urdu i am sure they will benifit if they could read and write and understand knowledge if it was in language they are comfortable in!!

Youtube ? What kind of knowledge you are getting from Youtube ?

I just gave you solid hints to where to look for knowledge and Who brought Europe out of darkness. It was not Islam certainly. But you are gonna argue with me all day. So let me point you out to real source of knowledge to expand your horizon of mind

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance

Issue with people like you who throws "gouray ki ghulami" is neither you are versed with whats happening around you nor you work in Scientific or Engineering or multi cultural field.

Like When you come to Qatar and work with Arab and Qatris, then I'll ask you if you can converse with them in urdu or not.
 
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Wood.
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Match.

Check check check

@Lavrentiy aap fassad macha gaye.... Check karen apko mananay kay liye awaam apas me lar gayi.

Goodluck finding this kind of sense of unity anywhere else in the world.

Pakistaniyon apas me na laro.
Woh Pakistani he kia jo peacefully argument resolve karay!
 
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You're at the point .
People can still learn knowledge even if they can't understand english .
Especially the modern views on religions require urdu translated to common people so they learn and develop their mind


Ta ta ..

India utilized English very much and is evident in almost 155 billion dollar software industry as of now...

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Youtube ? What kind of knowledge you are getting from Youtube ?

I just gave you solid hints to where to look for knowledge and Who brought Europe out of darkness. It was not Islam certainly. But you are gonna argue with me all day. So let me point you out to real source of knowledge to expand your horizon of mind

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance

Issue with people like you who throws "gouray ki ghulami" is neither you are versed with whats happening around you nor you work in Scientific or Engineering or multi cultural field.

Like When you come to Qatar and work with Arab and Qatris, then I'll ask you if you can converse with them in urdu or not.
Lols
Sir ull find that documentary in youtube hence the reference and that documentary is from bbc i am sure they know more than me or you and they did their research and employed people from different countries and cultures and gathered all the facts and figures and made it into documentary so we can learn something from it!

By Islam i meant arabs who invented algebra and number systems etc and scholars at that time were praticing muslim hence the use of Islam...

Abyways mate i respect your POV but i dont agree with it!

As for working in multicultural environment yes i have zero experience but i have seen the world and i have seen how proud europes are of their languages and how they prefer it to english and only use it where its necessary and not like us inferior pakistanis who just love conversing in english as if it ls the language sent from heaven up above!!
 
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Pardon me if I sound retard ..
But usage of English in our educational system is making things difficult for some students . Not all students can work well in english and not everyone can make up their mind to understand those new words of this language.
In our country, there are many people who have very high iq and have got a very sound mind still cannot go ahead in education if they don't have a complete grasp on english or regard education as difficult cause of new language.
Your native language affects your brain development. Western nations have the benefit that they use english in their daily life also then carry studying in the same language and also rule the world with this same language.
While it's not case with us, our mind is developed in urdu , study in Same language but then told that it's important to learn English to move ahead or to become a successful person in this earth like the famous people. In order to get a job , you need to have grasp in english that is just a injustice to those who don't know english.


Seems like your iq is not any benefit to you unless you learn English . It should be limited to a language of interaction and should not be given the state of dependency on it .

Explain this to our f*cking so called 'liberal' ****oles.
 
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What are you laughing at? You are openly admitting that you are a kanjar. Who do you think will have respect for you? Even the people that pretend they do will just sleep with your sister and mother, then never talk to you again. You are a sick person, and you deserve to die. I never wished death on anyone in my life, my I wish it on an open kanjar like you.
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I swallowed my ego years ago and realised that my elders were losers who got conquered by the superior Western civilisation. Therefore, I have no pride in a culture that only resulted in defeat and colonial rule by the master race.
You know I would give you a + rating for this but I can't. It takes clear untrammelled intelligence to make the abstraction you did and even more it requires guts to swallow the implications of that abstraction and then learn to move forward.

You are one hundred per cent right. We as a people not long ago were defeated and made slaves. Think of this. A few english came and made slaves of the entire South Asia. All of us martial races, fighting tribes, superior Brahmin, fatwa splurging mullahs, khalsa Sikhs, coast to coast, mountain to mountain, we were made into b*tches. And then we remained b*tches for over humdred years. That includes Mr Bombastic @lastofthepatriots people. Think about this. Hundreds and milliions of us, generation after generation were born as slaves, died as slaves. This is the brutal reality and it only ended in 1947.

So how do explain this? First though, never ever think this was because we were inferior. Never. No we were not inferior. However our culture, our way of thinking, our social mores our entire outlook was rotten to the core and was inferior. The proof is our history of slavery.

Think of this as a computer and the program. The hardware and the software. There is nothing wrong with our hardware so don't you ever dare look at Europeans as superior. Stand tall against them and in fact stand even taller. We are heirs to people who were cradle of human civilization when most of these Europeans were going around running in snow with a rawhide wrapped around their posteriors and making grunting sounds.

No, their hardware is not intrinsically superior. However as I noted they do have superior software. It is their culture, their way of doing things, their outlook or the "program" that makes takes them ahead of us and what enabled them to destroy our world when they took it over so easily making us into slaves.

Therefore what is the way forward. Exactly what you suggested. A failed program is failed. You don't keep repeating it. It failed us in 1849 and it will fail us again in 2019. You have examples of Japanese who when exposed to the West were humiliated but unlike our forefathers learn't a lesson. Japan in 1890s went through a period of copying the "white devils" and they did not stop until Japan began to look like a European country on the edge of Asia. It is not surprising that Japan went on to become the only non European country to join the great powers and fought against Russia. It defeated that country when most of non Europeans were slaves. They did is because they did exactly what you stated. Nothing wrong with our hardware but we need a refresh our failed software.

Accepting this is not easy. But this is the truth. Just as a observation the second non Euro country to follow the "refresh software" after Japan was Turkey. Look at them now. Today South Korea, Chinese, Japanese, Singapore, Turkey are to a large part "refreshed software"" examples. And I want you to ask yourself this question. Which two communities in South Asia adopted partial "refresh softwares"?

@DESERT FIGHTER Man you are cool guy. Man of my heart. A gentleman :tup:

@lastofthepatriots You need to grow up. This bravado of yours does not impress anybody.

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Pardon me if I sound retard ..
But usage of English in our educational system is making things difficult for some students . Not all students can work well in english and not everyone can make up their mind to understand those new words of this language.
In our country, there are many people who have very high iq and have got a very sound mind still cannot go ahead in education if they don't have a complete grasp on english or regard education as difficult cause of new language.
Your native language affects your brain development. Western nations have the benefit that they use english in their daily life also then carry studying in the same language and also rule the world with this same language.
While it's not case with us, our mind is developed in urdu , study in Same language but then told that it's important to learn English to move ahead or to become a successful person in this earth like the famous people. In order to get a job , you need to have grasp in english that is just a injustice to those who don't know english.


Seems like your iq is not any benefit to you unless you learn English . It should be limited to a language of interaction and should not be given the state of dependency on it .
We live in a globalized world. English skills are necessary because its the majority of customer's language.

But only English is not sufficient, Learning French, Spanish and Chinese can help immensely as well.

Also taking pride in one's own language is good but comes at the price of being a frog in the well.
 
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Lols
Sir ull find that documentary in youtube hence the reference and that documentary is from bbc i am sure they know more than me or you and they did their research and employed people from different countries and cultures and gathered all the facts and figures and made it into documentary so we can learn something from it!

By Islam i meant arabs who invented algebra and number systems etc and scholars at that time were praticing muslim hence the use of Islam...

Abyways mate i respect your POV but i dont agree with it!

As for working in multicultural environment yes i have zero experience but i have seen the world and i have seen how proud europes are of their languages and how they prefer it to english and only use it where its necessary and not like us inferior pakistanis who just love conversing in english as if it ls the language sent from heaven up above!!

Come back to me when you can proof not with words but with proper links that, The modern science physics,engineering and whatever branch you take it, was influenced by "Persian muslim scientists". Instead of throwing BBC documentary as a proof. which you cant even link or cant even properly show me which Discoveries of muslim scientis modernized the entire europe.

That is the reason with people like you. I just shared a knowledgeable link with you w.r.t european modernization and you are still sticking with unknown unverified BBC documentary and not opening up your mind horizons to research properly. Thats what killed the scientific discoveries in muslim world in 11th and 12th century and Muslims went into Dark period.
 
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