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Editor's note: Isobel Coleman is the author of "Paradise Beneath Her Feet" and a senior fellow for U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.
(CNN) -- Egypt's presidential race has been a political roller coaster. After banning 10 candidates earlier this month, the country's election commission banned and unbanned this week yet another well-known candidate, former Prime Minister Ahmed Shafiq, although the constitutional court is still reviewing that decision. The remaining front-runners for president speak a similar language on the need for economic reform and political transition, but they hold very different positions on the role of Islam in a new Egypt.
In this sense, the presidential election will be an important indicator of how much weight Egyptians give to Islam as a factor in their political life. It will not be the only factor in their decision, which will no doubt turn on questions of personality and name recognition as much as anything. But a vote for a candidate with more conservative Islamist leanings -- and there is evidence of strong support for such candidates -- will likely influence the writing of the constitution, with potential for a long-lasting impact on the rights of minorities and women in particular.
With only a month until the vote, and with the slate of potential candidates in such flux, it is not surprising that concerns are growing about the credibility and fairness of the elections. The recent disqualifications of former intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, Salafist preacher Hazem Salah Abu Ismail, and the Muslim Brotherhood's Khairat el Shater have fueled charges that Egypt's military rulers are trying to manipulate the election from behind the scenes to deliver a candidate suitable to their interests.

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According to the latest Al Ahram poll, conducted after the disqualification of Suleiman, Abu Ismail, and el-Shater, the front-runner now is clearly Amr Moussa, with support among voters of roughly 40%. Moussa is very likely the military's choice at this point. A former diplomat who served as secretary general of the Arab League, he is an establishment figure who has vowed to give the military a voice in key policy decisions through a national security council that would include top military officers.
Moussa's election, however, is far from a done deal. The big swing factor is the Islamist vote. Moussa, a secularist, has said that Egypt cannot afford an "experiment" in Islamic democracy at this time. Yet more than 70% of voters in the parliamentary election last fall opted for Islamist candidates. With the rejection of el-Shater, the Muslim Brotherhood candidate is now Mohamed Morsi, 60, who represents the older, more conservative wing of the Brotherhood and openly endorses a strict Islamic vision, which will appeal to the Salafist vote.
Morsi has called for a council of Islamic scholars to review whether state laws are in accordance with Sharia law, although he has said the council's decisions need not be binding. El-Shater, in contrast, stuck to a pragmatic, economic-oriented message and stressed his support for tolerance and democracy. Voters will likely find the Brotherhood's claims of support for pluralism less plausible under Morsi's banner. But the Brotherhood has strongly thrown its weight behind Morsi, telling its broad base of followers that they must vote for him, and many will do so.
The other leading Islamist is Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, a charismatic doctor who rose to national attention in 1977 when he publicly chastised former President Anwar el-Sadat at a public forum at Cairo University. Aboul Fotouh, popular among the younger generation of Muslim Brotherhood members, has over the years become increasingly critical of the Brotherhood's conservative stances. When the party published a platform in 2007, drafted by Mohamed Morsi, Aboul Fotouh spoke out against controversial provisions excluding non-Muslims and women from the presidency.
In 2009, Aboul Fotouh was purged from his leadership position in the Brotherhood. He was kicked out of the party last year when he declared his candidacy for president. Although Aboul Fotouh remains an Islamist, on the stump he focuses on justice and pragmatic economic issues and appears dismissive of talk of Islamic law.
Despite all the political turmoil, it seems likely that Egypt's election will go forward next month, and voters will be faced with relatively clear choices. While it is possible that Islamist voters will throw their weight behind Amr Moussa, perhaps out of name recognition or in hopes of a return to stability, others will inevitably lean toward an Islamist candidate.
A vote for Mohamed Morsi will consolidate the Brotherhood's political influence, which could translate into a constitution with weaker provisions for protection of minority and women's rights. If Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh emerges as the winner, it will be a sign that Egyptians are interested in a more pluralistic agenda within an Islamic framework.
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I noticed yesterday some new laws have been trying to get pushed through by the hardlines. Among them are
-Men can now have sex with their dead wife for up to 6 hours after they have died
-Girls can now get married at age 14
-Removing women's rights to work and education

No offense to anybody here but religious states are just so backwards. Its not about what religion you follow its about the character of the person. Religious states still haven't worked that out.
 
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I noticed yesterday some new laws have been trying to get pushed through by the hardlines. Among them are
-Men can now have sex with their dead wife for up to 6 hours after they have died
-Girls can now get married at age 14
-Removing women's rights to work and education

What's wrong about girls getting married at 14?
that's perfectly fine, and better than zoophilia and incest allowed in some European countries don't you think?
 
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I noticed yesterday some new laws have been trying to get pushed through by the hardlines. Among them are
-Men can now have sex with their dead wife for up to 6 hours after they have died
-Girls can now get married at age 14
-Removing women's rights to work and education

No offense to anybody here but religious states are just so backwards. Its not about what religion you follow its about the character of the person. Religious states still haven't worked that out.
Your girls are becoming at mother 12 and you have problem with girls getting married at 14 and those girls don't know who is the father of their child and you have problem with religion which tells you to how be a great human
 
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What's wrong about girls getting married at 14?


Lol........:hitwall:

if you had a clue about having a clue you would know that a person at age 14 is hardly ready for any kind of relationship let alone marriage.
But yeah, since education hasn't failed you, you would probably know that, no?

Poor children....
 
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Abu ismail was disqualified for no reason, they lied about his mother. The corrupt military will definitely manipulate the elections.

Lol........:hitwall:

if you had a clue about having a clue you would know that a person at age 14 is hardly ready for any kind of relationship let alone marriage.
But yeah, since education hasn't failed you, you would probably know that, no?

Poor children....
No 14 is more than ready. My Grandmother married when she was 14 and had absolutely no regret about it, millions of women marry around that age and they are fine. Only in the west were a child is considered not ready to marry and is incapable mentally of giving consent at that age, but he is ready to be executed or serve a life sentence in jail if he commits a murder.
 
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No 14 is more than ready. My Grandmother married when she was 14 and had absolutely no regret about it, millions of women marry around that age and they are fine.

She has no regret because she had no choice. Because she conformed to the norm.

Only in the west were a child is considered not ready to marry and is incapable mentally of giving consent at that age, but he is ready to be executed or serve a life sentence in jail if he commits a murder.

Some evidence about 14 year olds being executed in the West please.
And yeah, you still don't have a clue. A 14 year old is in no way ready for marriage. Physically barely, mentally no way.
 
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Abu ismail was disqualified for no reason, they lied about his mother. The corrupt military will definitely manipulate the elections.


No 14 is more than ready. My Grandmother married when she was 14 and had absolutely no regret about it, millions of women marry around that age and they are fine. Only in the west were a child is considered not ready to marry and is incapable mentally of giving consent at that age, but he is ready to be executed or serve a life sentence in jail if he commits a murder.

A girl of 14 does not have the life experience or mental aptitude to make such life changing decisions. A 14 year old girl is a child, they should be in school at that age and not having to worry about taking care of kids. It also opens up the possibility of being forced into something they are not aware of or agree with.
 
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She has no regret because she had no choice. Because she conformed to the norm.



Some evidence about 14 year olds being executed in the West please.
And yeah, you still don't have a clue. A 14 year old is in no way ready for marriage. Physically barely, mentally no way.
Sean Sellers was executed for a crime he committed when he was 16,George Stinney was executed for a crime he committed at age of 14, and Joe Sullivan served a life sentence for a rape he committed when he was 13. Countless 14 year old serve in jail for a very long time, why do the have the "mental capacity" to punished for crimes while a 14 year boy is mentally not ready to marry a 14 year old girl? In fact many western girl have sex and get pregnant before that age and that's fine, but marriage!! No way.
 
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Sean Sellers was executed for a crime he committed when he was 16, and Joe Sullivan served a life sentence for a rape he committed when he was 13. Countless 14 year old serve in jail for a very long time, why do the have the "mental capacity" to punished for crimes while a 14 year boy is mentally not ready to marry a 14 year old girl? In fact western many western girl have sex and get pregnant before that age and that's fine, but marriage!! No way.

Without knowing anything about those cases i would presume they were pretty gruesome.

But what you are basically saying is that if a person is capable of commiting a murder, he/she is capable of marriage?
I dont think that sounds all right with me.
 
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dont worry these salfis will be removed soon they had alot of fails and i am sure that in any coming elections they wont win
soon we will kick them back to where they belong wahabii sons of ......
 
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In the evolutionary point of view, a person is ready for marriage when that person is ready to pro-create (not just have sex). Once produced some off-spring; then a person is required to nurture the off-spring because a human child needs the longest nurturing period before he/she becomes self-sufficient. The remaining years of life for a person are a bonus, but a person can also be useful as a meme-bearer: a person who holds in her/his memory record of past experiences that could help the newer generations getting along with various hurdles of life.

The description above can only be applied to small hunter-gatherer groups where average age hardly tops 40 years. As the society becomes more complex, and the average age increases, more nurturing of human mind is required in the form of education and vocational training. That is precisely why Quran does not mention a particular age for marriage; it only uses the words 'Sound Judgement' to describe a person of 'marriageable age'. In order to achieve 'Sound Judgement' in this age of increasing complexity more time is needed to prepare a person to lead a successful life. At the age of 14, a young girl hasn't even finished her secondary school; how can she be of 'Sound Judgement'?
 
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-Men can now have sex with their dead wife for up to 6 hours after they have died
-Girls can now get married at age 14
-Removing women's rights to work and education

No offense to anybody here but religious states are just so backwards. Its not about what religion you follow its about the character of the person. Religious states still haven't worked that out.


Are u sure these are Islamic laws?!!as matter of fact I live in an Islamic country but to be straightforward it's the first time that I'm hearing them except the third one that takes place once in the blue moon in some uneducated families that force their girls to marry in their formative years of their life .
In addition as far as I know under Islamic laws girls has to be agreed on marriage otherwise they can defy .
 
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the place of religion is mosque, not parliment that should be reserved for politics. Banning religion and politics from mixing with each other will solve a lot of problems for many islamic countries. Political islam run by Mullah gangs is the biggest repression on 21st century.
 
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