Is ancient India overrated? A mind blowing analysis by Chinese professor

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

What about the 10% Muhajirs, who have connection with 50% of Indians? Don't they count as Pakistanis?

And what about at least 30% of Pakistanis that have a direct racial connection to Iran/Afghanistan? Why stop with that narrative?

 

[KN-1]

What about the 10% Muhajirs, who have connection with 50% of Indians? Don't they count as Pakistanis?

they are not 10%, and they migrated from different region hence you cant count them as race, Dehli, UP, Hyderabad, Bihari, bombay, Gujjus, Rajhasthani and now bengali also included in them, they all togather make the numbers, so yeah, we share only Punjabis, which make less then 2% of ganga..

Anyways i like your desperate attempt to connect your kind with us keep trying,

 

[Roybot]

they are not 10%, and they migrated from different region hence you cant count them as race, Dehli, UP, Hyderabad, Bihari, Gujjus etc etc altogather make the numbers, so yeah, we share only Punjabis, which make less then 2% of ganga..

That is why I said 50% of the Indians.

 

[MastanKhan]

Correction: Pakistanis and Indians...afterall we are separated by a political boundary NOT History!

I do have a comment though, that if survival is of the fittest, do we really want to emulate the IVC?
I mean except for their fancy cities, there remains no trace of them in today's world (or they may live amongst us unbeknown). If they were so advanced, why did they perish so easily?

At the end of the day, I would want to be part of the civilization that survives!

@Levina , thoughts?

Hi,

No civilization has survived per say---each and everyone of them have been destroyed over time.

 

[Roybot]

And what about at least 30% of Pakistanis that have a direct racial connection to Iran/Afghanistan? Why stop with that narrative?

When did I ever stop, but to say that only 5% of Indians have anything in common with Pakistanis is wrong. Because there are 5% Pakistani Muhajirs who have a lot in common with 50% of the Indians.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Hi,

No civilization has survived per say---each and everyone of them have been destroyed over time.

Wrong.

Chinese civillization is the longest and continuous civillization- all the way to the present day.

 

[Suriya]

Pakistanis have great ancestors. More hard work, and we'll be back as one of the great centres of civillisation.

Pakistan was made the mahmud bin qasim landed is Sindh . And Mahmud bin qasim was Syrian .

Had it not for him , Pakistan woudn't be created and now existing . There was ancient Punjab and ancient Sindh ,but you say cann't Ancient pakistan . It could as ridiculous as saying history of ancient Canada.

PS : One more thing Today's pakistanis share nothing with their great ancestors except land .

 

[Peshwa]

Hi,

No civilization has survived per say---each and everyone of them have been destroyed over time.

Don't the Chinese claim to be a contiguous civilization?

 

[El Sidd]

Ancient India has a lot to offer if one studies it academically.

The Indus civilisation is considered probably the first if not the very first civilisation. Along with the Sumerian and the yellow river valley of China.

Lots have been lost to evangelised monopoly on the issue.

 

[Peshwa]

Pakistan was made the mahmud bin qasim landed is Sindh . And Mahmud bin qasim was Syrian .

Had it not for him , Pakistan woudn't be created and now existing . There was ancient Punjab and ancient Sindh ,but you say cann't Ancient pakistan . It could as ridiculous as saying history of ancient Canada.

No that would be wrong too..
The concept of states is a modern phenomenon. Punjab and Sindh weren't demarcated in history until partition and independence.

 

[Pakistani E]

I agree. It could be theorized that the "hybrids" as you call it just assimilated into other nomadic people or migrated themselves.
And I particularly support this theory because of the fact that the IVC sites are so impeccably preserved. An invasion usually wreaks of destruction, but the IVC sites look more abandoned than destroyed.



I would theorize that all states of India that border with Pakistan may share similarities with their counterparts on the other side.
Remember the Indian subcontinent was a continuous land mass until partition.
It was a religious and political boundary, NOT an ethnic one. So it is hard to believe that say people of Rajasthan and Gujrat are poles apart from people living just across the border.

Do you have any idea what happened to this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...indian-town-unlock-mystery-indus-civilisation

And yeah I have always held the belief that North-Western people of India are closely related to Eastern Pakistanis (Punjabis, Sindhis etc). And I definitely do not have an issue if these people claim a shared history, the only thing that irks is being told by an East or South Indian that I have no right on the history of my land while they do, even though it is them that are more likely to have nothing to do with the history of Western Pakistani Punjab for example.

 

[Peshwa]

Ancient India has a lot to offer if one studies it academically.

The Indus civilisation is considered probably the first if not the very first civilisation. Along with the Sumerian and the yellow river valley of China.

Lots have been lost to evangelised monopoly on the issue.

Still don't understand why no efforts have been made to decipher the IVC language.
****! That alone with eliminate half the asinine battles we see on PDF. LOL

 

[El Sidd]

Still don't understand why no efforts have been made to decipher the IVC language.
****! That alone with eliminate half the asinine battles we see on PDF. LOL

Lol

I know right.

But that Time will also come.

But its irrelevant to majority of the Pakistani Muslims.

We are pragmatic people.

Atleast in theory

 

[Pakistani E]

Pakistan was made the mahmud bin qasim landed is Sindh . And Mahmud bin qasim was Syrian .

Had it not for him , Pakistan woudn't be created and now existing . There was ancient Punjab and ancient Sindh ,but you say cann't Ancient pakistan . It could as ridiculous as saying history of ancient Canada.

PS : One more thing Today's pakistanis share nothing with their great ancestors except land .

Ancient India was not a modern state either. But it doesn't stop Chu...s like you from claiming it.

Regardless of when Pakistan was created, you have absolutely nothing credible to prove your assertion that modern day Pakistanis share nothing with our ancestors. Both my paternal and maternal ancestors have been here for thousands of years. Sorry, but changing your religion doesn't change DNA.

P.S. India is a successor state of the British Raj, before that, it also didn't exist.

 

[Suriya]

No that would be wrong too..
The concept of states is a modern phenomenon. Punjab and Sindh weren't demarcated in history until partition and independence.

I'am saying Punjab and Sindh are ancient geopolitical entity While Pakistan is an ideological state whose values aren't inspired from ancietn sindh or Punjab but from Islam which arrived there in 7th cent.