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[925boy]

Even for T-90 they only bought a few and took them to Syria to be battle tested and learn from them. Then Karrar was unveiled.

comparing Iran's purchase of T-90 to Su-35 might be false equivalence, there is no evidence i've seen that IRan will handle T890 just like Su35 purchase.

25 SU-35’s cannot take on 200 fighter jets from Saudi Arabia

Lol, thats why Iran has the houthis, no need for Iranian jets.

Best option for Iran is to acquire license for transfer of technology for AL-222 turbofan with afterburner or develop a turbofan of comparable specifications. Then modify and improve design of F-5E and use some advances from Qaher-313 which is more aerodynamic landing gear at minimum. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if initial design of Qaher-313 had AL-222 in mind until Iran couldn't secure purchase of Yak-130's from Russia which may have hinged on transfer of technology for such turbofan.

Iran needs jets now, war could be coming soon, and by soon, i mean sooner than all you're saying needs to happen for Iran to END UP WITH GOOD FIGHTER JETS. iran gotta just buy some/many as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Iran has the houthis

Houthis have fighter jets?

 

[TheImmortal]

Iran needs jets now, war could be coming soon, and by soon, i mean sooner than all you're saying needs to happen for Iran to END UP WITH GOOD FIGHTER JETS. iran gotta just buy some/many as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

There is no war coming. Stop fear mongering.

Also those 25 SU-35’s would be destroyed in first week of conflict if Iran is facing the US. If it’s facing Israel then it won’t be an air to air battle after their initial strike on Iran’s facilties.

Until Iran builds “Air Force mountain cities” like China did in the 70’s or Tawian has done with their largest airbase, major aircraft purchase is a bit dumb.

I have already laid out how 5-10 major Air Force mountain cities capable of fueling and launching Iran’s interceptor fleet all from within a protected mountain bedrock can save Iran’s most valuable parts of its fleet during conflict with a power like the US.

This would be reserved for future Iranian fighters and jets like SU-35, J-10, SU-54, F-14AM, Migs etc.

Where as Iran’s F-5 and F-4 fleet would be stationed in regular airbases as they are not essential nor can you save every aircraft.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Then you can provide some information, unless this is just pure speculation.

Hey troll, it's true and it's been announced, look around. And that's the logic of things
Again the bad analysis of General TheImmortal who does not understand how a thing works. Fear not, Iran has plans that are far more sophisticated than this puppet. The SU35s will be supported by other fighter jets, drones, air defense missiles, electronic warfare and more.

 

[sha ah]

The 25 SU-35s would probably be part of a larger order and yes airstrips which lead to hardened, underground bunkers inside of mountains would be great for Iran.

China Has More Than 40 Of These Underground Air Bases And They're Nearly Impossible To Destroy

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There is no war coming. Stop fear mongering.

Also those 25 SU-35’s would be destroyed in first week of conflict if Iran is facing the US. If it’s facing Israel then it won’t be an air to air battle after their initial strike on Iran’s facilties.

Until Iran builds “Air Force mountain cities” like China did in the 70’s or Tawian has done with their largest airbase, major aircraft purchase is a bit dumb.

I have already laid out how 5-10 major Air Force mountain cities capable of fueling and launching Iran’s interceptor fleet all from within a protected mountain bedrock can save Iran’s most valuable parts of its fleet during conflict with a power like the US.

This would be reserved for future Iranian fighters and jets like SU-35, J-10, SU-54, F-14AM, Migs etc.

Where as Iran’s F-5 and F-4 fleet would be stationed in regular airbases as they are not essential nor can you save every aircraft.

 

[TheImmortal]

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These drawing getting old. If B-2s are flying deep into Iran and dropping bombs than that means most of the air defense network has failed/destroyed. Which at that point means loss of a contestable airspace.

Also these designs assume the old shallow mountain hangers of the 70’s, technology has advanced tremendously since Cold War. And now you can have underground bases so deep you need oxygen to reach.

All Iran needs is to be able to reliably keep most of its interceptors alive for first 6 months of war. That will take immense pressure of air defense and force enemy into more conservative tactics due to dual threat of interceptor and air defense system being active vs just no Air Force and air defense having to do all the defending.

 

[Dariush the Great]

People are still talking about delivery of SU-35's to Iran? Quite shocking actually that people are this naïve.
Zionist Putin will never allow Iran to get its hands on advanced offensive weapons. Even for the S-300 systems (totally defensive in nature) it took several lawsuits and a decade to receive them!
Facts matter people. Last major Russian arms delivery to Iran was in the begin 90's. 30 years ago!!

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Hey troll, it's true and it's been announced, look around. And that's the logic of things
Again the bad analysis of General TheImmortal who does not understand how a thing works. Fear not, Iran has plans that are far more sophisticated than this puppet. The SU35s will be supported by other fighter jets, drones, air defense missiles, electronic warfare and more.

I mean if Kowsar 2 exists then you can provide sources to inform me.

 

[Sineva]

Houthis have fighter jets?

When you`re dealing with saudi levels of military incompetence,you literally dont need fighter jets........or that much else to be honest.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Iran has capability to produce F-5E and they have option to modify design, primary limitation is nose of F-5E which restricts size of radar antenna then at very least as temporary measure against advanced adversary it could be equipped with AIM-23B aka Fakour-90 on center line pylon until smaller lighter AAM of comparable performance get developed. Iran needs new trainer jet design that consumes far less jet fuel and Jahesh-700 is perfect candidate until maybe a larger model gets developed, two Jahesh-700 would provide thrust comparable to that of single AL-55 used on HJT-36 while providing better specific fuel consumption. New trainer jet with Jahesh-700 would need far less fuel than Yasin as SFC is nearly 1/3rd of Owj.

In consideration that Iran managed to reverse engineer FJ33 and produce derivative Jahesh-700 thus it is possible for Iran to produce a low bypass twin spool turbofan for F-5E fighter jet.

With careful considerations in design of such, Iran can develop a low bypass turbofan that has SFC half of Owj/J85-GE-21 in subsonic regime thus doubling range while fitting inside engine bay of F-5E while another option is to develop larger turbofan that is no heavier than 2 J85-GE-21 while providing 15% greater afterburner thrust and half SFC in subsonic regime.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

I mean if Kowsar 2 exists then you can provide sources to inform me.

Iran Starts Producing a New Variant of Kowsar Fighter Jet for its Air Force

Iran has started production of the locally-designed, The Kowsar is produced in single and two-seater variants fighter plane for use in its air force, state television reported, as tensions mount with the United States after the reimposition of U.S. sanctions on Tehran. “Soon the needed number of this plane will be produced and put at the service of the Air Force,” Defence Minister Amir Hatami said at a ceremony on Saturday to launch the plane’s production, which was shown on television.

Kowsar fighter jet is a fourth-generation fighter aircraft designed and manufactured by state-owned Iran Aviation Industries Organization (IAIO). It is the first fighter jet developed in Iran. The development of Kowsar fighter aircraft has gained much more significance due to an arms embargo imposed by the US. Designed to upgrade and strengthen the aerial defence capabilities of Iran, the aircraft is deployed by the Iran Army and Iran Air Force. It can also be used to support the training activities of fighter pilots.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

When you`re dealing with saudi levels of military incompetence,you literally dont need fighter jets........or that much else to be honest.

May be

But historically,Arabs are great warriors.underestimating them can be a serious mistake in military conflict.

 

[aryobarzan]

Iran Starts Producing a New Variant of Kowsar Fighter Jet for its Air Force

Iran has started production of the locally-designed, The Kowsar is produced in single and two-seater variants fighter plane for use in its air force, state television reported, as tensions mount with the United States after the reimposition of U.S. sanctions on Tehran. “Soon the needed number of this plane will be produced and put at the service of the Air Force,” Defence Minister Amir Hatami said at a ceremony on Saturday to launch the plane’s production, which was shown on television.

Kowsar fighter jet is a fourth-generation fighter aircraft designed and manufactured by state-owned Iran Aviation Industries Organization (IAIO). It is the first fighter jet developed in Iran. The development of Kowsar fighter aircraft has gained much more significance due to an arms embargo imposed by the US. Designed to upgrade and strengthen the aerial defence capabilities of Iran, the aircraft is deployed by the Iran Army and Iran Air Force. It can also be used to support the training activities of fighter pilots.

do U have a link to this report...

 

[sha ah]

That was due to the UN sanctions and that was under Medvedev. In any case Iran did finally receive the S-300 and the most advanced export variant at that.

The Obama era of multilateralism is long gone. Today Russia is at odds with the west and the situation is only deteriorating with time.

Russia can no longer sell the SU-35s to Egypt or Indonesia. So what to do with the SU-35s ? Remember Russia needs funding for its new weapons systems, including the T-14 Armata, SU-57, Checkmate project, hypersonic missiles, etc

Iran would be a perfect fit in this case and 25 SU-35s would only be an initial order.

People are still talking about delivery of SU-35's to Iran? Quite shocking actually that people are this naïve.
Zionist Putin will never allow Iran to get its hands on advanced offensive weapons. Even for the S-300 systems (totally defensive in nature) it took several lawsuits and a decade to receive them!
Facts matter people. Last major Russian arms delivery to Iran was in the begin 90's. 30 years ago!!

 

[TheImmortal]

Russia can no longer sell the SU-35s to Egypt or Indonesia. So what to do with the SU-35s ?

Algeria, UAE, Qatar.

Putin will tell the Arabs if you don’t buy it, I’ll sell it to Iran. And they will buy it just so Iran doesn’t get it.

Or it will be retrofitted to Russian standard and added to Russian Air Force.