SalarHaqq
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let just say in iran iraq war for example our navy boast of Morvarid operation and say we destroyed iraq navy and throw them our of persian gulf. but let see what happened there.
in the phase 1 of operation , air force suppressed iraqi airforce and army aviation protected task-force 421 they successfully managed to supress iraqi defense and let our marines destroy iraqi defence and installation on on the Iraqi oil terminals at Mina al Bakr and Khor-al-Amaya.
on the second pase of the operation navy decided to alone go and close iraqi ports of AL-Faw and Um-AlQasr . guess what happened two Iraqi Osa boat sank by Iranian boats but the situation was not good for 2 LaCombattante Ship so they asked for help from air-force they sent two F-4 armed with 6xAGM-56 each by the time they arrived Peykan was Sank after being hit by two Termit missile it made the F-4 pilots so angry that they hit any , I mean any moving iraqi target they could see and then for more F-4 from Shiraz air base joined them and bombed every port facility and air defence facility the could find in area and literally destroyed every possible activity there , then iraqi tried to send some helicopter and mig-23 to the area to protect the F-4s with the help of F-14s which were send to the area destroyed all those migs and helicopters that were sent to help but 1 mig-23 which escaped , then they went and bombed Mina-al-Bakr terminal
in that operation which is named the most successful operation of our navy Our navy lost half of the fighting force they sent to area and managed to destroy 2xOSA Boat and one Mig-23.
air force destroyed two port, 1 oil terminal , 11 boat (Osa and P6) and 6mig-23 and 1 Mig-21 and one Super ferlon Helicopter + all Iraqi air defense facilities in the area.
so how can you tell me our war doctorine is not based on air force , in every successful operation we had air force played a critical role. we may not advertise it but our army still rely on air force and recently drones which is another type of air force
During the Sacred Defence the Islamic Republic's defence doctrine had not taken shape yet. Iran had to rely on structures inherited from the former regime to a much larger extent. Today these battles would be fought very differently.
Moreover, since the 1990's-2000's the potential enemy Iran has been preparing for is not a neighbor but the USA no less. In short, Iran succeeded to make possible the impossible: namely, to deter military aggression by the USA regime.
And in this feat, Iran's air force definitely played no role. It's Iran's asymmetrical approach which made it possible. The allocation of funds to development projects in the different branches of the Iranian military is reflective of where the doctrinal focus lies. This doesn't stand to debate.
not speculative Russia don't sell you the airplane without RADARS and electronic system , it will sell you with them and ask you for their cost . then you must go and remove those and built your own electronic and put them inside . its like paying twice for the airplane subsystems.
Domestic upgrades to certain electronic systems won't cost Iran as much as the entire aircraft imported from Russia.
no but to me it looks as they phase out their mig-23s they are stopping order new Su-30 and bought Rafale and they still work on Tejas . to me it seems they plane slowly focus on rafale and thyeir own light fighter and slowly phase out russian airplanes. maybe not today , not tomorrow but certainly in the next decade we see a different type of indian air force which is equipped with more light to medium fighter
I don't think India will retire its Flankers long before the airframes reach their limit.
its not the question of what they do , its simple physics , and biology , no pilot can stay counscios if they try to pull out the acceleration a missile can do. dogfight and agility is a thing of past yes they are awesome ,.... in movies . but in reality the fight is done at BVR and the one wins who had better electronic. even if you come in WVR fight , who care which one is more agile , now a days modern fighter pilots only turn they head toward the target and lock it and fire .its not if the target is behind them as the missile can do a 180 degree turn and engage the target from front.
I still find PeeD's assessment trustworthy, for there's no doubt he definitely took into account the above and more when he came to that conclusion.
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