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Iraqi Shia Imam Ali warriors in northern Hama province to battle Salafist Islamists

Nice philosophical statement but it does make a difference, especially to the people living there. If Assad falls and all these extremist islamist groups take over, minorities can be slaughtered, country will be sent back a century. Assad is not ideal but there is no better alternative at the moment, maybe a long term political solution can work but that requires involvement of Assad too

Don't say minorities, say the alawite clan will be thrown out of its royal palace.
 
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They did partially, hafiz al assad and arafat where one of the first who supported the mullahs.

In 1978 when Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was forced to leave Iraq where he had been in exile since 1963, Assad suggested him refuge in Damascus.[56] Assad regarded the Islamic revolution in Iran in February 1979 as an opportunity to further implement his policies. Although he was against any Islamic movement, but as the Iranian one was a Shia movement he found an ally in the new Iranian government. The new government of Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran promptly abolished Iran's ties with Israel and Egypt and turned hostile towards these states. Assad established an alliance with Iran, whose political and social principles — except those concerning Israel and the United States — were dramatically opposed to Ba'athist doctrines. Assad consistently extended military and diplomatic assistance to Iran during the Iran–Iraq War in order to secure legitimacy and support for his rule in Syria and his policies in Lebanon.

I said the Syrians not the alawite clan leader.
 
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I love how Iranians (non-Arabs that do not speak Arabic, have likely never met a single Syrian in their lives, have no clue about Syria, its history and people) are writing complete and utter nonsense.

Firstly and most crucially, those complaining about "extremism" (codeword for Muslim Syrians - as if Al-Assad and his regime and lackeys are not the biggest extremists along with their crypto-Ba'athi ISIS) should stop supporting the Al-Assad regime as he is the main culprit for not only their birth but also the sad situation that Syria and Syrians are in.

Those terrorist Shia militias (could have been of any sect and religion) are not much better than ISIS and they are looked at by the locals as terrorist foreigners and occupiers aiding a mass-murdering dictator.

Their rhetoric, agenda, views are very similar to ISIS it's just a slightly different approach (less brutal obviously) but at the end of the day those groups are fighting for their own Islamic state as well.

Either that or some imaginary shrines that are not located in Syria but in Egypt.

I understand that Syria (read Al-Assad regime) are one of the few friends that the Mullah's have in the Arab world but I wonder where they will stand the day the Mullah's in Iran (like they have done previously) will oppress local Iranians if the latter choose to rebel.

I hope that their Ba'athi friends (crying about Saddam Hussein but supporting Bashar and Hafiz, lol) will support the Mullah's with everything they got just like Hezbollah helped put the Iranian people down in 2009.







Their Ba'athi and Hezbollah Arab friends have helped keep their Arab Mullah's in power. Insha'Allah may they do that for a very long time to come.
 
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Nice philosophical statement but it does make a difference, especially to the people living there. If Assad falls and all these extremist islamist groups take over, minorities can be slaughtered, country will be sent back a century. Assad is not ideal but there is no better alternative at the moment, maybe a long term political solution can work but that requires involvement of Assad too
Another myth. Before Baath Nazis took power in 1960-es Syria was much more secure for minorities.
 
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Another myth. Before Baath Nazis took power in 1960-es Syria was much more secure for minorities.

Not only that it was also ruled by the majority of the population (Syrian Sunni Arabs who form at least 75% of the population).

But Syrian Sunni Arabs are descandents of Banu Umayya so that is a no-go.:rofl:

Anyway interesting Twitter account Ultroll.





I wonder if this brave and clever Iranian is dead now for speaking the truth in public and receiving a big cheer? Hopefully not.

Keeping track of lots and lots of dead Iranian terrorists in Syria too.
 
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Another myth. Before Baath Nazis took power in 1960-es Syria was much more secure for minorities.
I am talking about NOW. You think if Assad falls, Daesh and Al nusra and Jaish al islam will provide democracy and minorities will be secure and the country will prosper?
 
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Iraq should be stabilized, then help Syria to eliminate KSA's bogus Jihadists. After that, i am sure that Egypt will ask Iraq for help. In case of Egypt, only Iraq can save it from bogus Jihadists.
Someone must educate these idiots to turn back their sword on Israel not the Muslim nations of the region. I will wait until that day
 
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I love how Iranians (non-Arabs that do not speak Arabic, have likely never met a single Syrian in their lives, have no clue about Syria, its history and people) are writing complete and utter nonsense.

Firstly and most crucially, those complaining about "extremism" (codeword for Muslim Syrians - as if Al-Assad and his regime and lackeys are not the biggest extremists along with their crypto-Ba'athi ISIS) should stop supporting the Al-Assad regime as he is the main culprit for not only their birth but also the sad situation that Syria and Syrians are in.

Those terrorist Shia militias (could have been of any sect and religion) are not much better than ISIS and they are looked at by the locals as terrorist foreigners and occupiers aiding a mass-murdering dictator.

Their rhetoric, agenda, views are very similar to ISIS it's just a slightly different approach (less brutal obviously) but at the end of the day those groups are fighting for their own Islamic state as well.

Either that or some imaginary shrines that are not located in Syria but in Egypt.

I understand that Syria (read Al-Assad regime) are one of the few friends that the Mullah's have in the Arab world but I wonder where they will stand the day the Mullah's in Iran (like they have done previously) will oppress local Iranians if the latter choose to rebel.

I hope that their Ba'athi friends (crying about Saddam Hussein but supporting Bashar and Hafiz, lol) will support the Mullah's with everything they got just like Hezbollah helped put the Iranian people down in 2009.







Their Ba'athi and Hezbollah Arab friends have helped keep their Arab Mullah's in power. Insha'Allah may they do that for a very long time to come.
Assad will not allow islamic system, yes he only uses shia fighters. Tbh those shia militias are not good but much and much better than any, even, non-daesh salafist group. Will assad let Syria be ruled by Islamic laws? I don't expect that.
Allah has no power to decide anything as you see in Syria and Yemen, Libya. Only people themselves can change their situation by making smart choices. Every humanbeing has a strategy in his life, either good or bad.
 
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Assad will not allow islamic system, yes he only uses shia fighters. Tbh those shia militias are not good but much and much better than any, even, non-daesh salafist group. Will assad let Syria be ruled by Islamic laws? I don't expect that.
Allah has no power to decide anything as you see in Syria and Yemen. Only people themselves can change their situation by making smart choices. Every humanbeing has a strategy in his life, either good or bad.

I stand with Syria and our Syrian brothers and sisters and I will let them decide their own future. However my posts were intended to expose the hypocrisy that many Iranians openly expose and that of their "holy" infallible Mullah leadership (what has this to do with Islam again - some new invented doctrine to grab power forever and the foolish sheep buy it and defend it - some with their own lives).

I don't differentiate between criminals and murderers and their degree of crime when I talk about their negatives. To me those are unwanted elements and indeed ISIS are the worst of such elements outside of the Al-Assad regime itself. That is evident.

That was always the case regardless of religion and ideology. This is also clearly stated in the noble Qur'an repeatedly.

Lastly Syria was always ruled by the Syrian Sunni Arab majority and elite until the Alawites infiltrated the marginal Ba'athi party (10% popularity in the last free election in Syria) and military afterwards to gain power. But indeed a few Syrians have become "radicalized" but we cannot blame them due to the reality they live in and the actions of Al-Assad and lackeys. Minorities faced no problem pre-Al-Assad regime and won't afterwards either outside of those who were heavily involved in the oppression of the Syrian nation but that is regardless of sect and religion. Those who did nothing have nothing to fear.

Anyway welcome back @Shapur Zol Aktaf
 
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I stand with Syria and our Syrian brothers and sisters and I will let them decide their own future. However my posts were intended to expose the hypocrisy that many Iranians openly expose and that of their "holy" infallible Mullah leadership (what has this to do with Islam again - some new invented doctrine to grab power forever and the foolish sheep buy it and defend it - some with their own lives).

I don't differentiate between criminals and murderers and their degree of crime when I talk about their negatives. To me those are unwanted elements and indeed ISIS are the worst of such elements outside of the Al-Assad regime itself. That is evident.

That was always the case regardless of religion and ideology. This is also clearly stated in the noble Qur'an repeatedly.

Lastly Syria was always ruled by the Syrian Sunni Arab majority and elite until the Alawites infiltrated the marginal Ba'athi party (10% popularity in the last free election in Syria) and military afterwards to gain power. But indeed a few Syrians have become "radicalized" but we cannot blame them due to the reality they live in and the actions of Al-Assad and lackeys.
The problem is some muslim countries have this which I call pre-1979 mentality of Iran and Afghanistan. This is a natural developement which they will pass, but the problem is some are losing their country completely during the experiment. It could have happened to us in 1979 if Shah would have stayed, just like Assad is staying now and just like the communist regime in Afghanistan did. At the same time we already know what comes after Assad just like what came after Shah and after kadafi and after communist regime in Afghanistan.
It's a really difficult situation with no good choice.

In Iran, 100 years ago we were really religious, but mentality changed a lot with no civil war. This path will continue. In 1979 majority supported khomeini, people had so strong religious feeling those days. Their own children differ. So we continue with this path of reform within our mind and society. This is our strategy. Unfortunately in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan this didnt happen.

And now that we're talking about it, do saudi students, political parties, politicians, openly and bravely attack saudi policy in Yemen and Bahrain or their own leaders?
 
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Lastly Syria was always ruled by the Syrian Sunni Arab majority and elite until the Alawites infiltrated the marginal Ba'athi party (10% popularity in the last free election in Syria) and gained power.
Why you guys spread sectarianism syria for the syrians and its their word not yours
weren't iraq with shiite majority why you keep crying for sunnis been marginalized while they are only 15 percent of the population
you are really sick with your sectarian attitude.

Syrians with their friends and brothers will defeat the salafist sworms and all those who helped them no doubt
 
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Why you guys spread sectarianism syria for the syrians and its their word not yours
weren't iraq with shiite majority why you keep crying for sunnis been marginalized while they are only 15 percent of the population
you are really sick with your sectarian attitude.

Syrians with their friends and brothers will defeat the salafist sworms and all those who helped them no doubt

Nobody has spread anything. KSA always supported nationalist/moderate Syrian Sunni Arab groups. We stood with the Syrian nation and people while others stood with a bloodthirsty Ba'athi regime.

Anyway it is very sad to see Iraqi Shia Arabs from Southern Iraq, who know what it is to live under a Ba'athi regime, go to Syria (when they have enough to look after in their own country) to oppress their Syrian brothers and sisters on behalf of the most bloodthirsty regime in the region.

It is even more sad when they are lured by a few 100 dollars from the Iranian Mullah's who are sending young impoverished Iraqi Shia Arabs (because only impoverished people join mostly), Iranians, Afghans and Pakistanis but the top Mullah's in those countries do not want to send their own sons to battle.

Anyway I already know that most Iraqi Shia Arabs are against this policy and most dislike the Al-Assad regime as well but they have fears of some radical groups in the opposition. Anyway you can save my post once long after I am gone from this forum and you too and most others, and see that I was right once the Syrian conflict ends and the Al-Assad regime is put in the dustbin of history forever.

Iraqi Sunni Arabs make up 20-25% of the population.

Nobody is buying the bogey-word and nonsense of "Salafism". 90% of all Salafis are peaceful people. Not only that Salafis are a very small minority in ALL Arab countries. Most Syrians are Sunni Muslims and besides of that Sunni Muslims and Salafis have very few theological differences. In fact the VAST MAJORITY of all Salafis are apolitical people who mind their own business. They are much less inclined to join Islamist/Jihadist groups contrary to popular belief as they are of the view that most Muslims are some of the biggest sinners so they do not want to associate themselves with such projects unless Muslims stop being that. Let's not even talk about Muslim regimes. It's hard not to admire many of their practices and lack of hypocrisy and I am saying this as a Sunni Shafi'i Muslim. Putting all Salafis in the same minority basket (Jihadis) is like putting all Sunnis and Shias in the same basket despite an enormous diversity in views.

The right word that you are looking for are Jihadists and they come in all sects.
 
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Huh who the hell is Turkey? NATO's donkey giving nice ride to Anglo saxons of America.
You are a joke and indeed a giant shithole in our neighborhood, the roots of whole problems in Syria. Backstabber liars. Tell me your price
So cheap they are graving for some power even if that comes on skeletons of millions of innocent people.
 
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