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Iraqi pro-PMU protesters storm US embassy in Baghdad

It would take a coup, and that hasn't been happening. PMU counters the army and army counters the PMU from going either way, hence why Iraq remains in the middle all the time.

Parliament is full of quota's where balancing parties also counter one another.

Iraq has been playing Switserland in the middle east
Anyone playing swiss in the region now is a zionistic parasite, enough cuckery towards zionists and americunt colonist pigs. There is no time anymore for swiss now.
 
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Anyone playing swiss in the region now is a zionistic parasite, enough cuckery towards zionists and americunt colonist pigs. There is no time anymore for swiss now.

The issue is, whilst I agree that America has spread cancer in the region for many decades. Iraq not playing Swiss means Iraq burning with a lot of bloodshed. It hasn't gotten a rest since 1980, Iran wouldn't be affected much as the proxy wars will take place in Iraq mainly. This is part of the reason why so many in Iraq are now pursuing a thought of being against all sides equally and only putting their country first.
 
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Anyone playing swiss in the region now is a zionistic parasite, enough cuckery towards zionists and americunt colonist pigs. There is no time anymore for swiss now.
Iraq already paid heavy price from 1948 to this day and no interest in entering conflicts.
 
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It's either once and for all rest, or keeping americans here and bleeding slowly coming 50 years.
Making the Americans leave we need a superpower support and massive uprising like Vietnam or Algeria.

I heard before that Saddam wanted to give the Americans oil for the next 50 years also i saw video two days ago on RT Arabic that the Americans were trying to negotiate 50 years oil deal with good price with Saddam in the prison but he rejected the offer. in 2007 john abu zaid said that the US maybe will remain 50 years in Iraq so they knew they not gonna leave anytime soon. I think that scumbag idiot bush should have made deal with Saddam for oil instead of invading Iraq and abolish the Army and Security forces and creating sectarian mess.

@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates @Arabizer
 
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Making the Americans leave we need a superpower support and massive uprising like Vietnam or Algeria.

I heard before that Saddam wanted to give the Americans oil for the next 50 years also i saw video two days ago on RT Arabic that the Americans were trying to negotiate 50 years oil deal with good price with Saddam in the prison but he rejected the offer. in 2007 john abu zaid said that the US maybe will remain 50 years in Iraq so they knew they not gonna leave anytime soon. I think that scumbag idiot bush should have made deal with Saddam for oil instead of invading Iraq and abolish the Army and Security forces and creating sectarian mess.

@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates @Arabizer
There was a deal made by pachachi to let saddam go to UAE and finish saddam without war.
USA neglected it and decided to kill Iraqis and create a huge destruction. Shame upon pro-US thugs who are happy about this vile terrorist attack.
 
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There was a deal made by pachachi to let saddam go to UAE and finish saddam without war.
USA neglected it and decided to kill Iraqis and create a huge destruction. Shame upon pro-US thugs who are happy about this vile terrorist attack.
yes but why Irans helped the US against Sddam and why iranian loyal militias assassinated Baath party members, academics, pilots, security members and army officers?!
 
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yes but why Irans helped the US against Sddam and why iranian loyal militias assassinated Baath party members, academics, pilots, security members and army officers?!
1. No evidence, sounds more mossad-like actions like killings of Iranian scientists.
2. Baath were US-dogs themselves and even US still mourns the big mistake that they removed Saddam. Read all their recent article. Why they act mad? because they lost trillions and removed their puppet without thinking, indirectly reducing their own influence. Since 2003 American influence in middle east decreased and trillions were added to their debt.
 
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1. No evidence, sounds more mossad-like actions like killings of Iranian scientists.
2. Baath were US-dogs themselves and even US still mourns the big mistake that they removed Saddam. Read all their recent article. Why they act mad? because they lost trillions and removed their puppet without thinking, indirectly reducing their own influence. Since 2003 American influence in middle east decreased and trillions were added to their debt.
that's why they shouldn't have removed Saddam to begin with because Iraq is no Japan or S.Korea.
 
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Making the Americans leave we need a superpower support and massive uprising like Vietnam or Algeria.

I heard before that Saddam wanted to give the Americans oil for the next 50 years also i saw video two days ago on RT Arabic that the Americans were trying to negotiate 50 years oil deal with good price with Saddam in the prison but he rejected the offer. in 2007 john abu zaid said that the US maybe will remain 50 years in Iraq so they knew they not gonna leave anytime soon. I think that scumbag idiot bush should have made deal with Saddam for oil instead of invading Iraq and abolish the Army and Security forces and creating sectarian mess.

@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates @Arabizer

It is not very clever to openly engage in a hostile manner against the most powerful nation in the world (USA). Iraq is no China or Russia to act within a similar playing field. Nobody in the Muslim world is.

The smartest thing would be to engage with the US similar to what KSA is doing. Limit the relationship to trade, education, oil/gas/mineral business, private business, military etc. while at the same time having close/cordial ties with all the other powers such as China, Russia, EU etc. so not to be dependent on 1 entity. At times you can agree or disagree with US foreign policies.

The relationship won't ever be like that between the US and its European NATO allies who are willing to send their own soldiers to fight American wars and vice versa.

KSA for instance never did that/will never do it. KSA agrees with the US on some issues and digress on others and talk about it openly. This is how such a relationship with a superpower should be ideally.

US is not going anywhere anytime soon so better be realistic. You have the example of that Soleimani clown. He thought that he was invincible and was barking left and right and now his destroyed body is trending on Twitter for millions of people to see.

Most important thing for Iraq is to remove fifth columns from within (pro-Mullah terrorists, stateless Kurds, Al-Nujaifi etc.) and focus on patriotism/nationalism while building a strong state again that is aligned with its Arab brethren in the Arab world, particularly the neighbors.

This all began with the fatal/stupid invasion of Kuwait. Iraq was better off when Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr was in power. Ideally the monarchy would have remained as well.
 
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It is not very clever to openly engage in a hostile manner against the most powerful nation in the world (USA). Iraq is no China or Russia to act within a similar playing field.

The smartest thing would be to engage with the US similar to what KSA is doing. Limit the relationship to trade, education, oil/gas/mineral business, private business, military etc. while at the same time having close/cordial ties with all the other powers such as China, Russia, EU etc. so not to be dependent on 1 entity.

Most important thing for Iraq is to remove fifth columns from within (pro-Mullah terrorists, stateless Kurds, Al-Nujaifi etc.) and focus on patriotism/nationalism while building a strong state again that is aligned with its Arab brethren in the Arab world, particularly the neighbors.

This all began with the fatal/stupid invasion of Kuwait. Iraq was better off when Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr was in power. Ideally the monarchy would have remained as well.
Yes that was supposed to happen we don't need idiots who want Iraqis to destroy their country for them they can fight USA themselves on their own turf. Saddam was stupid to go head to head against the west not only against America in Kuwait.
 
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Yes that was supposed to happen we don't need idiots who want Iraqis to destroy their country for them they can fight USA themselves on their own turf. Saddam was stupid to go head to head against the west not only against America in Kuwait.

Saddam drew foreign policy based on pride rather than logic. You need to have a leader who is ready to accept his image being destroyed, one that can swallow all his pride when needed and even step aside. For example Al abadi.

Political leaders exercise soft power. Generals exercist hard power.. Saddam combined both, disaster
 
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Yes that was supposed to happen we don't need idiots who want Iraqis to destroy their country for them they can fight USA themselves on their own turf. Saddam was stupid to go head to head against the west not only against America in Kuwait.

The Kuwait invasion never made sense to me. I was not born during that time and only know what I have been told/read about myself but I don't think that we will ever know the full story of that stupid invasion.

I read that some Iraqi (people close to Saddam) and Arab observers (ambassadors) claimed that Saddam was fooled by the US to think that he had received an OK to invade Kuwait but that makes no sense as the US would always be against an oil/gas energy hegemon emerging in the region, especially back then when oil/gas was even more important than it is today.

Similarly the US will be the first country to prevent KSA from incorporating neighboring GCC states, not Iran or anyone else.

What should have been done, which easily could have been done, given the fact that Kuwait openly and freely supported Iraq against Iran financially, logistically etc., was to solve Arab disagreements internally without outside interference.

Similar to the idiotic hostility between Ba'ath ruled Syria and Ba'ath ruled Iraq. It lasted until very recently, there is still mistrust to this day.

In general Saddam had a rash/expansionist policy. Too hot-headed and too prideful. The power he and his family gained created a power trip and delusion which impacted his entire internal and foreign policy.

A lot of the troubles currently facing the Arab world is the work of our own regimes, not only that of foreign interference. However both need to be spoken about not just the internal faults.

In any case, Iraq is the victim one again due to geography alone. Trapped in yet another potential regional conflict that the people had nothing to do with.

That is why the entire political oligarchy should be lynched on the streets for allowing the status quo for this long.

I really hope that INDEPENDENT patriots/nationalists within the military will make a coup and NEVER allow Iraq to turn into a foreign brothel for fifth columns. Work towards solving the Kurdish problem as well. Limit/prevent any future ISIS/successor entity from emerging as well. Ally with its Arab neighbors whether it be KSA, Kuwait, Syria or Jordan. Try to develop cordial ties with neighbors as long as the relations will be on a level playing field. No more tolerance for Mullah meddling or Erdogan's expansionist dreams. That would be ideal but this is not realistic nowadays with the same corrupt militias, political parties (useless) having so much power. The people need to rise up as they have been doing calling for genuine political changes. Only solution. I hope that the Iraqi army was involved in this assassination of those enemies of Iraq.

Actually both those dead terrorists were fighting against Iraq and have the blood of 1000's of Iraqis on their hands directly.
 
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A lot of the troubles currently facing the Arab world is the work of our own regimes, not only that of foreign interference.

Not just a lot but all of the troubles facing the Arab world is caused by the regimes -- foreign interference is just a by product for allowing it to happen. Sadly the Arab world is to fractured to unite and I don't see it happening in the next 100 years.
 
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Saddam drew foreign policy based on pride rather than logic. You need to have a leader who is ready to accept his image being destroyed, one that can swallow all his pride when needed and even step aside. For example Al abadi.

Political leaders exercise soft power. Generals exercist hard power.. Saddam combined both, disaster
Saddam and Nasser were both treating the problems with bedouian and cowboy wild west mentality who didn't know anything about diplomacy and both of them we still suffer from their stupidty and pride to this day. all the countries that Nasser interfaired in like Libya, Iraq and Yemen still suffer from him calling to overthrow the monarchies and his defeat against Israel and losses in Yemen which destroyed the Egyptian economy which Egypt and many countries still suffer from his actions and we still suffer from Saddam invasion of Kuwait to this day.

The dog Nasser is reponsible for Saddam by encouring the overthrow of the monarchy and then later conspired against Qassim.

Qassim the idiot also was one of the reasons why Iraq in mess by overthrowing the monarchy and was soft and brought the scumbag Tarazani from his soviet exile to Iraq which have been a dagger on Iraq side ever since.
 
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