Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions

[VEVAK]

Intresting How Russia was so far behind in UAVs that they had to buy UAVs from Israel and technology from Iran.

Low and behold Russian version of RQ-170

Makes you wonder if Iran provided ToT for this model and in exchange for what?

Don't believe everything you hear!

The Russian's had the Skat before this and had massed nearly 1000 Tu-143's by the late 80's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-143

So the Russian's do NOT owe their UAV program to Iran or Israel!

 

[TheImmortal]

Don't believe everything you hear!

The Russian's had the Skat before this and had massed nearly 1000 Tu-143's by the late 80's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-143

So the Russian's do NOT owe their UAV program to Iran or Israel!

The TU-143 is a joke similar to Iran’s Karrar UAV in nature.

First of all skat concept came AFTER Iran capture of RQ-170, so please get your facts straight. RQ-170 incident happened in 2011, Scat “concept” was unvieled in 2013 and was clearly underwhelming even as a concept.

Russia lacked modern MALE UAVS hence the purchase of Heron UAV From Israel and ScanEagle Tot (Yasir UAV) from Iran. Russia makes it own ScanEagle clone now.

Before that incident neither Russia (skat 2013) nor China (Sky hawk 2018) had mass produced flying wing design aircraft let alone UAV flying wing design (as they are even harder to control). In fact China’s Sky hawk is just entering service!

As Iran’s general said Iran’s initial prototypes crashed repeatedly as it was very difficult building the necessary systems to keep a flying wing design stable when flying let alone without a pilot.

So sorry if I don’t believe your ridiculous explanation that Russia went from a cruise missile like based UAV (Tu-143) to MALE UAV to flying wing design all by itself. COINCIDENTLY enough this advancement all happened AFTER RQ-170 was captured by Iran and AFTER Iran gave ScanEagle copy to Russian general and AFTER Iran announced selling drone technology to Russia.

Something you simply don’t understand is that Iran is one of the first countries to use UAVs and UAVs in war (Iran-Iraq war) see the Ababil and Mohajer drones. Prior to Predator drone and ScanEagle capture Iran’s UAVs were hardly anything to write home about, but acceptable nonetheless. However, after the capture of foreign tech Iran truly reached MALE UAV status. It’s no coincidence that Iran’s most advanced UAVs are based on Israeli and US designs

I will go so far as saying that if Iran never captured RQ-170 it wouldn’t have a flying wing design for another 10 years from today! Even the most advanced experimental UAV project, Sofreh Mahi pre RQ-170, wasn’t even flying wing!

 

[925boy]

for sure Iran and Russia shared technology and Iran got, of course, something in return

I am willing to bet money that Russia has sold/given relatively(at the minimum) "advanced weapons" to Iran over the years. Iran will buy them, has money, can do favors, so Russia or/and China must have sold/be selling weapons and telling Iran to not show it until it needs it. Russia probably selling ToT to Iran. Easier to sell knowledge than physical materials.

 

[mohsen]

Sorry but there is no connection between RQ-170 & this bigass drone (Okhotnik)!

They are different stories...

The only similarity between RQ170 and Russian monster is that both are flying-wing designs.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-air-vehicle-emerge-our-analysis?iid=sr-link1

 

[skyshadow]

new uavs are coming soon.

 

[PeeD]

Great so the jet powered 40% Simorgh model (Jet-Saeghe) was the drone that carried the two Sadid PGMs in the strike against daesh targets.

That's a quite compact, expandable drone to kill 1-2 soft high priority targets. The small size is a further RCS reducing measure. The single wing designs gives it a quite long range and even more RCS reduction.

Vehicle launch method is a great idea and 40000 feet operating altitude is another survivability benefit.

This is one of the Iranian weapons that could be incredibly effective and efficient.

 

[TheImmortal]

Great so the jet powered 40% Simorgh model (Jet-Saeghe) was the drone that carried the two Sadid PGMs in the strike against daesh targets.

That's a quite compact, expandable drone to kill 1-2 soft high priority targets. The small size is a further RCS reducing measure. The single wing designs gives it a quite long range and even more RCS reduction.

Vehicle launch method is a great idea and 40000 feet operating altitude is another survivability benefit.

This is one of the Iranian weapons that could be incredibly effective and efficient.

I thought when it comes to flying wing design, the smaller the size the greater the RCS. Hence why the B-2 is the size it is, it actually scatters the radar on a longer dimensional frame (of course

 

[sha ah]

I believe that Iran should work on a larger drone with a bigger payload. However I'm not sure if that goes along with Iran's military doctrine of asymmetrical warfare. Perhaps they're afraid of a larger drone being hacked ?

new uavs are coming soon.



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[PeeD]

I thought when it comes to flying wing design, the smaller the size the greater the RCS. Hence why the B-2 is the size it is, it actually scatters the radar on a longer dimensional frame (of course

This effect(s) comes into play if the threat sensor is low-band. There the large feature size of the B-2 becomes helpful in a specific frequency range. It is expected that the B-2 can negate the benefits a P-18 radar creates. But as feature sizes reach their maximum, it loses that benefit at the very low end of VHF-band (as used in the Resonanz-N/Ghadir series of radars).

Western powers have almost no VHF-assets, hence that Jet-Saeghe has no problems in that regard (although as exception, the UAE has a radar based on the Resonaz-N operational).

The Jet-Saeghe or the full size Simorgh itself are too small anyway to create that beneficial effect against VHF-band radars.

The small size of the Jet-Saeghe would significantly reduce its RCS, maybe to a degree that even the best AESA X/S/L-band radars would only have 20-30km detection range. This would be the threshold that might have dictated a size reduction to reach that level with current Iranian stealth technologies.

 

[skyshadow]

now it is confirmed that Iranian rq _ 170 1=1 model will carry 4 bombs in its internal weapons bay.

مشخصات پهپاد کمان ۱۲:

حداکثر سرعت پرواز در سطح دریا: ۲۰۰ کیلومتر بر ساعت

سرعت گشت: ۱۶۰ کیلومتر بر ساعت

برد پروازی: ۱۰۰۰ کیلومتر

برد یک طرفه: ۲۰۰۰ کیلومتر

مداومت استاندارد پروازی: ۱۰ ساعت

ضریب لیفت: ۱.۸

محدودیت تحمل شتاب: ۲- تا ۵+

بیشترین وزن پهپاد: ۴۵۰ کیلوگرم

حداقل وزن پهپاد: ۲۳۰ کیلوگرم

نمونه جدید پهپاد شاهد -۱۲۹ که مجهز به ارابه‌های فرود جمع شونده است نیز به نمایش درآمده است. شاهد ۱۲۹ با برد عملیاتی ۲ هزار کیلومتر و مداومت پروازی ۲۴ ساعته با یک بار سوختگیری، قادر به اجرای مأموریت‌های مراقبت، شناسایی و انهدام اهداف با بمب و موشک است.

این پهپاد همچنین به چهار تیر بمب هدایت شونده سدید مجهز است. سدید بمبی هدایت شونده با وزن ۳۴ کیلوگرم و مجهز به سر جنگی شدید الانفجار و ترکش شونده است و نحوه فعال شدن آن برخورد مستقیم به هدف است و همچنین می‌تواند به سامانه‌های هدایت اپتیکی، لیزری یا فروسرخ مجهز شود.

پهپاد خانواده سیمرغ یا همان RQ-170

پهپاد صاعقه -۲ که از آن در عملیات بر علیه مقر تروریست‌ها و سران گروهک‌های تکفیری در شرق فرات استفاده شد

پهپاد صاعقه -۲ قابلیت حمل ۴ بمب هوشمند را در محفظه داخلی خود دارد.

 

[yavar]

 

[mohsen]

Has anyone seen this engine before?

 

[skyshadow]

Has anyone seen this engine before?

no segheh - 2 is a new drone.

 

[TheMightyBender]

Wow this high-tech Iranian-invented UAV is being sold on aliexpress.

https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/Komi..._expid=37bf24ef-e5f5-4a41-85e5-a94110480533-6

 

[skyshadow]

Wow this high-tech Iranian-invented UAV is being sold on aliexpress.

https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/Komik-2122mm-Skywalker-Siyah-x-8-FPV-EPO-B-y-k-U-an-Kanat-U/32848842951.html?spm=a2g10.search0104.3.42.7e454acemFw0LN&transAbTest=ae803_3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_433_10618_431_10307_537_536_10902,searchweb201603_54,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=37bf24ef-e5f5-4a41-85e5-a94110480533&algo_expid=37bf24ef-e5f5-4a41-85e5-a94110480533-6

Wow this high-tech Iranian-invented UAV is being sold on aliexpress.

https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/Komik-2122mm-Skywalker-Siyah-x-8-FPV-EPO-B-y-k-U-an-Kanat-U/32848842951.html?spm=a2g10.search0104.3.42.7e454acemFw0LN&transAbTest=ae803_3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_433_10618_431_10307_537_536_10902,searchweb201603_54,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=37bf24ef-e5f5-4a41-85e5-a94110480533&algo_expid=37bf24ef-e5f5-4a41-85e5-a94110480533-6

those 3 small uavs are suicide uavs so the quality was not that important.