Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits Vietnam

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When you go troll around you deserves the same kind of treatment.

Thanks for you showed your real face!

 

[Viet]

I actually quite baffled on the sanction against Iran, wasn't the Sanction was initiated by the UNSCR 1747, which not only USA, but all 15 UNSC Seat say "Yay" on the issue (That's included The UK, China, Russian, France, Belgium, Congo, Ghana, Indonesia, Italy, Panama, Peru, Qatar, South Africa and Slovkia), how it become a US lone sanction from a UN Sanction?

Actually the United States and the European Union are the ones that impose economic santions on Iran after failing an agreement. The other nations are following because they fear a retaliations from the US.


United Nations Security Council Resolution 1747

"In June 2006, the five permanent Security Council members plus Germany offered a package of economic incentives including transfer of technology in the civilian nuclear field, in exchange for Iran to give up permanently its disputed uranium enrichment programme.[1]

Iran did not accept this offer..."

 

[jhungary]

Actually the United States and the European Union are the ones that impose economic santions on Iran after failing an agreement. The other nations are following because they fear a retaliations from the US.


United Nations Security Council Resolution 1747

"In June 2006, the five permanent Security Council members plus Germany offered a package of economic incentives including transfer of technology in the civilian nuclear field, in exchange for Iran to give up permanently its disputed uranium enrichment programme.[1]

Iran did not accept this offer..."

So you were saying Chinese and Russian afraid of the Pressure coming from the United States? That does not sound like the CHinese and Rusky i know.

 

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Actually the United States and the European Union are the ones that impose economic santions on Iran after failing an agreement. The other nations are following because they fear a retaliations from the US.


United Nations Security Council Resolution 1747

"In June 2006, the five permanent Security Council members plus Germany offered a package of economic incentives including transfer of technology in the civilian nuclear field, in exchange for Iran to give up permanently its disputed uranium enrichment programme.[1]

Iran did not accept this offer..."

It is not in the 15 countries of UNSC which voted a sanction against Iran, including China?

Why China is considered innocent while US is not?

 

[Viet]

So you were saying Chinese and Russian afraid of the Pressure coming from the United States? That does not sound like the CHinese and Rusky i know.

If I am correct. The US threatens consequences to all firms including non-US companies. Chinese and Russian business are subject to punishment in the United States if they continue doing business with Iran.



Sanctions against Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The United States has imposed an arms ban and an almost total economic embargo on Iran, which includes sanctions on companies doing business with Iran, a ban on all Iranian-origin imports, sanctions on Iranian financial institutions, and an almost total ban on selling aircraft or repair parts to Iranian aviation companies. A license from the Treasury Department is required to do business with Iran. In June 2011, the United States imposed sanctions against Iran Air and Tidewater Middle East Co. (which runs seven Iranian ports), stating that Iran Air had provided material support to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which is already subject to UN sanctions, that Tidewater Middle East is owned by the IRGC, and that both have been involved in activities including illegal weapons transportation.[23] The U.S. has also begun to designate a number of senior Iranian officials under the Iranian Human Rights Abuses Sanctions Regulations. On December 14, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury designated Hassan Firouzabadi and Abdollah Araqi under this sanctions program. [24] In February 2012 the US froze all property of the Central Bank of Iran and other Iranian financial institutions, as well as that of the Iranian government, within the United States.[25] The American view is that sanctions should target Iran's energy sector that provides about 80% of government revenues, and try to isolate Iran from the international financial system.[26]

 

[jhungary]

If I am correct. The US threatens consequences to all firms including non-US companies. Chinese and Russian business are subject to punishment in the United States if they continue doing business with Iran.



Sanctions against Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The United States has imposed an arms ban and an almost total economic embargo on Iran, which includes sanctions on companies doing business with Iran, a ban on all Iranian-origin imports, sanctions on Iranian financial institutions, and an almost total ban on selling aircraft or repair parts to Iranian aviation companies. A license from the Treasury Department is required to do business with Iran. In June 2011, the United States imposed sanctions against Iran Air and Tidewater Middle East Co. (which runs seven Iranian ports), stating that Iran Air had provided material support to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which is already subject to UN sanctions, that Tidewater Middle East is owned by the IRGC, and that both have been involved in activities including illegal weapons transportation.[23] The U.S. has also begun to designate a number of senior Iranian officials under the Iranian Human Rights Abuses Sanctions Regulations. On December 14, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury designated Hassan Firouzabadi and Abdollah Araqi under this sanctions program. [24] In February 2012 the US froze all property of the Central Bank of Iran and other Iranian financial institutions, as well as that of the Iranian government, within the United States.[25] The American view is that sanctions should target Iran's energy sector that provides about 80% of government revenues, and try to isolate Iran from the international financial system.[26]

The first round of the Iranian Sanction is imposed by the US and EU in the effect of reversing the Armament sold to the Iran, both already delieverd (Make them redundent by staving of parts) or to Withheld the hardware that were destined to Iran. America need to do that so in the even US-Iran war broke out in 1980, American Equipment will not be used against america.
History told me the War did not happen as Iran was attacked by Iraq and America sees it better to use Iraq to deal with Iran rather than doing them themselve....

What we are refering in this case is the sanction against iran on the account of Nuclear proliferation. Which is a series of UN sanction started in 2006. The sanction is part of international effort to condemn the Iranian Nuclear program. Actually during the 5 years sanction, US still mnaintain trade with Iran with about 10,000 Special license produced by the State Department and other country have their special license as well. So, basically, nothing had done except the US and UN make some wave at Iranian Nuclear Program...

 

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China has right to veto, why it did not veto of the economic sanction against Iran?

This is not called beating Japan, it says clearly some Japanese officials in IndoChina were causing trouble in Vietnam and refused to accept the surrender to the Allies. Japan wasn't sending any troops to Vietnam anymore, your people just fought against the left overs in Vietnam.

What a frog sitting at the bottom of a well! How Japan could to kick French out of Vietnam and inveded Vietnam but Japan did not send any troops to Vietnam as you said ???

About Vietnam's August Revolution, please see attached picture below and answer the questions:

-Who were Belligerents?
-Who were Leaders and commanders?
-Who was the victory?

....Images taken from Wikipedia

 

[ChinaToday]

China has right to veto, why it did not veto of the economic sanction against Iran?



What a frog sitting at the bottom of a well! How Japan could to kick French out of Vietnam and inveded Vietnam but Japan did not send any troops to Vietnam as you said ???

About Vietnam's August Revolution, please see attached picture below and answer the questions:

-Who were Belligerents?
-Who were Leaders and commanders?
-Who was the victory?

....Images taken from Wikipedia

China vietnam war
Realistic Casualty counts of the Sino-Vietnamese war
15,000 Vietnamese militia/civilians killed in 1979 Total Vietamese Casualties: ~35,000 ~27,000 (12,000 Regular + 17,000 militia/civilian in 1979) ~1000 regulars in 1982 ~4000 regulars in 1984 ~3000 regulars from 1985-1988 That is an average kill ratio of 1:5 in favor of the PLA

5:1 in favour of china

france vietnam war
First Indochina War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

French Union: 75581dead Vietminh:175,000–500,000 dead

8:1 in favour of france


US vietnam war
Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the Vietnamese government, there were 1,100,000 North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong military personnel deaths during the Vietnam War.[5] Rummel reviewed the many casualty data sets, and this number is in keeping with his mid-level estimate of 1,011,000 North Vietnamese combatant deaths.[5][6][42] He further calculated a mid-level estimate of 251,000 Viet Cong military deaths

20:1 in favour of america


i feel sad so many vc were killed the lesson vc should learned is AVOID war at all cost let face it they are not really good at fighting are they?

 

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China vietnam war
Realistic Casualty counts of the Sino-Vietnamese war
15,000 Vietnamese militia/civilians killed in 1979 Total Vietamese Casualties: ~35,000 ~27,000 (12,000 Regular + 17,000 militia/civilian in 1979) ~1000 regulars in 1982 ~4000 regulars in 1984 ~3000 regulars from 1985-1988 That is an average kill ratio of 1:5 in favor of the PLA

5:1 in favour of china

france vietnam war
First Indochina War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

French Union: 75581dead Vietminh:175,000–500,000 dead

8:1 in favour of france


US vietnam war
Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the Vietnamese government, there were 1,100,000 North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong military personnel deaths during the Vietnam War.[5] Rummel reviewed the many casualty data sets, and this number is in keeping with his mid-level estimate of 1,011,000 North Vietnamese combatant deaths.[5][6][42] He further calculated a mid-level estimate of 251,000 Viet Cong military deaths

20:1 in favour of america


i feel sad so many vc were killed the lesson vc should learned is AVOID war at all cost let face it they are not really good at fighting are they?

I think we should move to an other thread more appropriate to discuss on this issue you are interested, I will continue to discuss with you there.
But before leaving here, I want you look at the following figures of casualties of Chinese in the 2nd Sino-Japan War:

Casualties and losses of Chinese:

Nationalist: 1,320,000 KIA, 1,797,000 WIA, 120,000 MIA, and 17,000,000–22,000,000 civilians dead [4]
Communist: 500,000 KIA and WIA.


Obviously, your country has not done better than us.
And at least we have the victories at the end, while you never!

 

[Abii]

Maybe not the most dumbest thing ever said on the internet but it is close. It's good to have some Iranian members here to criticize these Vietnamese. They think Iran is asking for trouble by not letting ever sites to be inspected. The Pinoys and Viets here worship US yet this country was responsible for slaughtering them back in those days. Iran has every right to develop nuclear energy. We don't even care if Vietnam wants to have closer ties with Iran, we only laugh at the idea of Vietnam persuading Iran to give up nuclear energy which was suggested by Viet himself. Don't know why these cheerleaders love the US so much after spraying them with chemicals to poison them and turn them into BBQ with napalm. They murdered plenty of Pinoys too and then there are the Japanese who let loads of Viets starved to death during WW2. Like you said slavery mentality.

But we do allow them to inspect every nuclear site they want, and they do and have done. We do not have to allow them to inspect military sites however and they keep asking to visit places like Parchin which does not have anything to do with the nuclear program. Under the NPT agreement we are not obliged to allow inspections to non nuclear facilities. When we practice our right to refuse they start a propeganda campaign and they say Iran is hiding something! Yeah, we are hiding something, but these are our military secrets! We can't just allow a bunch of inspectors to walk around in every military installations they want. We're neither obliged to do so nor are we going to do this from the goodness of our hearts, nobody would! Can you imagine Americans allowing the Chinese to inspect their military installations!??? It just doesn't make sense. But that's the world we're living in. America and their slave nations are unfortunately able to gang up on the free nations every chance they get.

 

[Rechoice]

China vietnam war
Realistic Casualty counts of the Sino-Vietnamese war
15,000 Vietnamese militia/civilians killed in 1979 Total Vietamese Casualties: ~35,000 ~27,000 (12,000 Regular + 17,000 militia/civilian in 1979) ~1000 regulars in 1982 ~4000 regulars in 1984 ~3000 regulars from 1985-1988 That is an average kill ratio of 1:5 in favor of the PLA

5:1 in favour of china

france vietnam war
First Indochina War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

French Union: 75581dead Vietminh:175,000–500,000 dead

8:1 in favour of france


US vietnam war
Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the Vietnamese government, there were 1,100,000 North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong military personnel deaths during the Vietnam War.[5] Rummel reviewed the many casualty data sets, and this number is in keeping with his mid-level estimate of 1,011,000 North Vietnamese combatant deaths.[5][6][42] He further calculated a mid-level estimate of 251,000 Viet Cong military deaths

20:1 in favour of america


i feel sad so many vc were killed the lesson vc should learned is AVOID war at all cost let face it they are not really good at fighting are they?

China propaganda did the good job. It was importance that chinese PLA ran away with bloody heads.

 

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Not only has good relation with Iran, Vietnam also has good relations with Venezuela, Cuba, NK...

Meanwhile, US-Vietnam relationship has still constantly strengthened...

Vietnam-Venezuela cooperate in the oil drill in Venezuela:

Vietnam, Venezuela begin tapping a new oil field
HANOI, April 19 | Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:05am EDT

(Reuters) - A Vietnam-Venezuela oil and gas joint venture has begun production at a new field in the Orinoco region with an initial output of 50,000 barrels per day (bpd), the Vietnamese government said on Thursday.

The venture, PetroMacareo, would raise extra heavy crude oil output from the field in Junin 2 block to 200,000 bpd by 2015, the government said in a statement.

PetroMacareo was formed by Venezuelan state oil firm PDVSA, which has a 60 percent stake, and state oil and gas group Petrovietnam holding the remainder.

The venture is operating in an area believed to have reserves of 36.6 billion barrels, and it is expected to pump a total of 1.47 billion barrels during its 25-year operation, the statement said.

Vietnam is preparing to upgrade its sole oil refinery, the $2.2-billion Dung Quat plant, to expand its capacity by nearly a third and to be able to refine crude oil from the Middle East and Venezuela.
Vietnam, Venezuela begin tapping a new oil field | Reuters

 

[Viet]

I don't know, maybe they will threaten Iran with Vietnamese rice?

Don´t talk crap, but try to stop the bloodshed in Syria!

 

[Viet]

Maybe not the most dumbest thing ever said on the internet but it is close. It's good to have some Iranian members here to criticize these Vietnamese. They think Iran is asking for trouble by not letting ever sites to be inspected.

The Pinoys and Viets here worship US yet this country was responsible for slaughtering them back in those days. Iran has every right to develop nuclear energy. We don't even care if Vietnam wants to have closer ties with Iran, we only laugh at the idea of Vietnam persuading Iran to give up nuclear energy which was suggested by Viet himself. Don't know why these cheerleaders love the US so much after spraying them with chemicals to poison them and turn them into BBQ with napalm. They murdered plenty of Pinoys too and then there are the Japanese who let loads of Viets starved to death during WW2. Like you said slavery mentality.

You idiot!

Who says Iran should give up nuclear energy? They should give up the idea of possessing of nuclear weapons!

 

[jhungary]

I will have to say, America got this wrong this time, unlike the Iraqi, Iranian have actually cooperate with the IAEA and allow many suspected site to be inspected, the problem is with the Israel pressure and for the financial gain. Look at it this way, NK already have Nuclear weapon, we are business as usual, the only different is we have already squeeze what we can with the SK, there are no much to get from them, so the voice of the oppsition is smaller than in Iran.

In ME, you got several moderate we need to please and they need protection, it's good to claim the Iranian is make Nuclear weapon so we can sell more armament to most of them (KSA, Israel and Lebannon) Even if Iranian hav nuclear weapon it would not be a big deal, you need a really mad leader to use it in the first place as you are sure, the first time you use it is probably the last time you use it.