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[CAN_TR]

Dezful missiles.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138691988491046912

 

[VEVAK]

Iraq said the same thing when fighting rice farmers in Vietnam prior to Gulf War 1 conflict. Mother of all battles. The U.S. is capable of dealing with such defenses. Its no different when you see them testing missiles and bombs against hardened bunkers and caves. You saw similar tests when Syria's airbases were bombed with hardened bunkers that look similar. Why not in the mountains?

Assuming all the missiles were able to accurately hit and avoid defenses.



Runways can be repaired not to mention you have highways that can be used as runways. So in other words you have to bomb more.

If you notice in the U.S. Tomahawk strikes in Syria the missiles didn't collapse the bunkers, rather used a penetrating warhead to penetrate and then damage & or destroy whatever that was inside. And even 1100lb warhead like what the AMG-158 wouldn't be enough to collapse the entrances in any meaningful way

And in Iranian underground missile base the missiles aren't stored in and around the entrance but rather stored deep inside the maintains in areas that are +200 feet underground and they are stored that way because Iran is aware of American capabilities and weapons like the GBU-28 and others and since in Iran Mountains make up most of our terrain they become a natural cover and in the past 2 decades Iran's become quite officiant at building underground tunnels and bases and anyone that's ever rode on Tehran's Metro station knows that this is not some kind of a bluff because in some areas of Tehran the metro stations are located as deep as 164ft under ground so just imagine how deep Iranian missiles bases go.

 

[Raghfarm007]

Find it funny how Ameritards talk about how they kicked Iraq´s *** in 1991 Gulf war.... yet are cluless that Iraq had just come out of an 8 year devestating war, and also sent all of their Air force to Iran for "safe keeping". America basically beat a dead country and still brags about it..... and the Ameritards some how thing a war with Iran will basically end the same way.

 

[VEVAK]

Find it funny how Ameritards talk about how they kicked Iraq´s *** in 1991 Gulf war.... yet are cluless that Iraq had just come out of an 8 year devestating war, and also sent all of their Air force to Iran for "safe keeping". America basically beat a dead country and still brags about it..... and the Ameritards some how thing a war with Iran will basically end the same way.

Yup, however the Iran-Iraq war was simply one of a long list of reasons that lead to Saddam losing but not in 1991 because the U.S. war against Iraq simply started in 91 but it actually never ended....
From 1992-2002 not a single week went by where Americans weren't flying sorties over Iraq and during that time not a single year went by where the Americans didn't conduct mass bombings and missile strikes against Iraqi military targets and yes they sold it to the public and to the world under a humanitarian no fly zone but what the Americans were really doing was systematically taking out Iraqi Air Defenses, Missile stockpiles and weapons depots as a prelude to the 2003 invasion. And yes in 91 Americans won a major objective by scaring Saddam to withdraw from Kuwait but the war never stopped, U.S. simply changed tactics for if Iraq in 91 was so easily defeated then why spend hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade bombing the hell out of that country and systematically taking down it's air defenses?
Also during the Iran-Iraq war the only reason Saddam wasn't taken out by Iran within 2-3 years is because U.S., USSR, most of Europe & Saudi Arabia all pitched in to give him Money, Weapons, Intel & political support all of which Saddam lost after he fell for the trap and invaded Kuwait. As for the weapons stockpile that was given to him, sophisticated high end military gear and platforms almost always require sophisticated maintenance and upkeep with replacement parts & weapons so a good portion of the sophisticated military gear that was given to him slowly became useless or in the case of Iraqi communication systems a major vulnerability.
Also, Iraq's demographics and Saddam's paranoia against Iraqi Shiite and Kurds played a large role in his demise for by the 2003 invasion Iraq had less than 1.5 Million Sunni Arab Men age 16-60 in all of the country many of whom weren't and by the most part didn't fight a hopeless war against the U.S. in a country where they were well out numbered by Iraqi's that wanted Saddam gone.

 

[925boy]

If you notice in the U.S. Tomahawk strikes in Syria the missiles didn't collapse the bunkers, rather used a penetrating warhead to penetrate and then damage & or destroy whatever that was inside. And even 1100lb warhead like what the AMG-158 wouldn't be enough to collapse the entrances in any meaningful way

And in Iranian underground missile base the missiles aren't stored in and around the entrance but rather stored deep inside the maintains in areas that are +200 feet underground and they are stored that way because Iran is aware of American capabilities and weapons like the GBU-28 and others and since in Iran Mountains make up most of our terrain they become a natural cover and in the past 2 decades Iran's become quite officiant at building underground tunnels and bases and anyone that's ever rode on Tehran's Metro station knows that this is not some kind of a bluff because in some areas of Tehran the metro stations are located as deep as 164ft under ground so just imagine how deep Iranian missiles bases go.

ALso, the presence of SERIOUS mountains in any country automatically commits the aggressor to send in ground forces because air attacks are already assumed to be less effective in hilly countries. Good example is Afghanistan. So already, US WILL need ground troops for any military action more escalated than "strong warning" level IMO.

 

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For first time a photograph of Iranian Underground Command and Control Center mockup.

New information released about IRGC 2017 missile attack on deir alzor


Two zolfaghar TBM lunched on two targets -ammunition storage (missile with HE Warhead) -chemical storge for suicide attacks (missile with Fragmentation Warhead)


100 m destruction radius

Another impacts: One missile impacted on ISIS underground Tunnel(Fragmentation Warhead Another missile lunched on ISIS hospital building(HE Warhead)

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[Aramagedon]

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[Sineva]

Heres a site with some interesting design proposals for underground control centers for the old imperial navy and airforce back in the early 70s
http://www.dchamberlinarchitect.com/architecture-rmp-ISIRAN AIRFORCE & NAVY DEFENSE CENTERS.htm

This one especially looks pretty hi tech by 1974 standards with its multiple projection screens.

 

[Oldman1]

If you notice in the U.S. Tomahawk strikes in Syria the missiles didn't collapse the bunkers, rather used a penetrating warhead to penetrate and then damage & or destroy whatever that was inside. And even 1100lb warhead like what the AMG-158 wouldn't be enough to collapse the entrances in any meaningful way

And in Iranian underground missile base the missiles aren't stored in and around the entrance but rather stored deep inside the maintains in areas that are +200 feet underground and they are stored that way because Iran is aware of American capabilities and weapons like the GBU-28 and others and since in Iran Mountains make up most of our terrain they become a natural cover and in the past 2 decades Iran's become quite officiant at building underground tunnels and bases and anyone that's ever rode on Tehran's Metro station knows that this is not some kind of a bluff because in some areas of Tehran the metro stations are located as deep as 164ft under ground so just imagine how deep Iranian missiles bases go.

Yeah and if you notice the missiles and bombs have the capability to punch through very deep in the mountains. You are still not aware of U.S. capabilities. Even now. I mean even now you didn't mention the newer bombs because you yourself are not aware of it. All you mentioned was the GBU-28 from the Gulf War.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

Yeah and if you notice the missiles and bombs have the capability to punch through very deep in the mountains. You are still not aware of U.S. capabilities. Even now. I mean even now you didn't mention the newer bombs because you yourself are not aware of it. All you mentioned was the GBU-28 from the Gulf War.

The USA has a bomb that holds in the hands and able to destroy the planet Jupiter. They are strong these Americans and especially they are not idiots

 

[Oldman1]

The USA has a bomb that holds in the hands and able to destroy the planet Jupiter. They are strong these Americans and especially they are not idiots

Iran has a bomb that could wipe out the oceans as they claimed.

 

[Caspian Parsi]

Iran has a bomb that could wipe out the oceans as they claimed.

Its actuality a chemical weapon , its called Ayatollah Turd and its deadly ..

 

[sha ah]

I don't know if they would launch 100, but maybe 20-30, even if half hit it's good enough. Iran will probably launch missiles with larger warheads at vital installations.

To destroy a base such as al-Sufran or Livu in the UAE, we need something about 20-30 Qiam missiles and 30-40 Fateh missiles.

Red Circle Radius Destruction power of Qiam missile.

Blue Circle Radius Destruction power of Fateh missile.

Zolfaghar missiles at there finest

one of the Qiam missile storage facilities

To fully and completely destroy a military base as large as the Bagram base in Afghanistan, assuming that the missiles have the pin point accuracy and the 100-meter destruction radius, we need about 100-150 short-range ballistic missiles such as the Qiam.

Iraq never had the weapons & preparation that Iran has. Iran has well over 100,000 missiles, some say more than 200,000. Most of Iran's missile launchers & air defense batteries are highly mobile which makes them extremely difficult to target. Look at Saudi Arabia, with the 3rd largest military budget on earth, more than Russia. Saudi's have help from the USA, with US jets & satellite intelligence, yet they can't stop the rag tag Houthi rebels from Yemen, the poorest Arab country on earth, from constantly targeting their pipelines & airports with old modified scuds & plastic drones.

Another thing you have to understand is that most of Iran's mobile assets are hidden deep underground in secret fortified bunker. Iran has hundreds of such bunkers and networks of tunnels spread throughout the country. Some are underneath mountain ranges. The problem is that the US doesn't know where most of them are. You're comparing little concrete aircraft shelters in Syria to bases which are half a km or more underground, protected by layers of military grade concrete & underneath mountain ranges ?

Iran has 5000 air defense sites. For the US to attack Iran, the US would require a hell of alot more assets & personnel in the region than what it has now. That buildup would takes months but as soon as Iran became aware of their intention, Iran would act & strike first. All Iran needs to do is destroy Saudi Arabia's oil facilities. It would cause the price of oil to quadruple or even more overnight. The economy in the US would shut down. Millions unemployed, riots, etc & countless companies that are in debt or on the edge would go bankrupt, exacerbating problems. Aside from the US, the entire global economy would experience a serious meltdown that would take decades to recover from.

Attacking Iran is not an easy task & no cake walk. Talk is one things, bluffs about fire & fury are another, but going to war with Iran would be a disaster for the US, not worth it.

Iraq said the same thing when fighting rice farmers in Vietnam prior to Gulf War 1 conflict. Mother of all battles. The U.S. is capable of dealing with such defenses. Its no different when you see them testing missiles and bombs against hardened bunkers and caves. You saw similar tests when Syria's airbases were bombed with hardened bunkers that look similar. Why not in the mountains?

Assuming all the missiles were able to accurately hit and avoid defenses.



Runways can be repaired not to mention you have highways that can be used as runways. So in other words you have to bomb more.

Yeah and if you notice the missiles and bombs have the capability to punch through very deep in the mountains. You are still not aware of U.S. capabilities. Even now. I mean even now you didn't mention the newer bombs because you yourself are not aware of it. All you mentioned was the GBU-28 from the Gulf War.

The problem is that Iran has hundreds of underground missile bases & their networks of tunnels run underneath the entire nation. The people who work in these bases are hand picked & I doubt if the US knows where they all are. Even if they know where some of them are, I doubt if a bunker buster will go through an entire mountain & then cut through half a km of military grade, layered concrete that is specially designed to resist bombs. The MOP bunker buster, for example, can only penetrate 60 feet of concrete & that's not even the kind of concrete Iran has & Iran layers it's concrete to make it more effective.

Another issue is that Iran has 5000+ air defense sites & for the US to launch an attack on Iran, they would need a hell of alot more assets & personnel than what they have in the region now. That buildup would be obvious & as soonas Iran became aware, it would launch a pre-emptive strike. All Iran has to do is target Saudi Arabia's oil facilities. Once the price of oil quadruples, it will lead to a global financial meltdown. It's just not worth it from a financial standpoint for the US to wage a war against Iran. It's not feasible.

 

[VEVAK]

Yeah and if you notice the missiles and bombs have the capability to punch through very deep in the mountains. You are still not aware of U.S. capabilities. Even now. I mean even now you didn't mention the newer bombs because you yourself are not aware of it. All you mentioned was the GBU-28 from the Gulf War.

I mentioned the GBU-28 because it's a 5000lb bomb an F-15 can carry and it's capable of penetrating over 100ft! Also without knowing how the tunnels are structured and where the missiles are stored or if the tunnels are re enforced with concrete or not it really doesn't matter how deep you can penetrate! Which is why U.S. wants access to all Iranian Military bases and it's also why Iran will never give it to them!

U.S. makes public most of it's ordnances and they most times they overplay their capabilities to create a fear factor you can simply do a search on wiki and yes U.S. also has weapons that they don't make public too
BUT to hit and destroy Iranian Missile Bases much like Iran's Fordow facility the U.S. will need to use weapons like the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator or the larger MOAB
And these are weapons that weighs as much as an F-16 so you would need a bomber to get inside a highly protected Airspace and Iran would shoot it down just as easily as we shot down the RQ-4 (Or MQ-4) that was flying at over 50,000 feet!!!!

U.S. stealth tech used in the trident that was shot down by Iran using an Iranian BUILT SAM system flying at over 50,000ft! So yea that wasn't just any aircraft or just any RQ-4