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[mohsen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575406986002419714

Disappointing showing out of Fath (HIMARS) equivalent.

Out of 5 Fath only one scored a direct hit (20% accuracy). Error in interial guidance does not make sense since inertial guidance loses accuracy as time passes and given very short range of this missile (75KM) time from launch to impact should have been very very quick.

Possible this was a different type of rocket launch and not Fath. Could also mean GNSS is not very accurate especially in Middle East.

Or it can simply mean Iran needs to work on guidance kit of Fath for next generations.

The stated accuracy of BM120 is 30m. so maybe you expected something else.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575452114297528327

 

[jauk]

From: https://****/+Tjtv3-xi2zlqdFEG

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

From: https://****/+Tjtv3-xi2zlqdFEG

Is that the Ruyin-3 carrier he's wearing?

 

[GrandBotBoi]

Is that the Ruyin-3 carrier he's wearing?

No, it's some commercially purchased one

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575406986002419714

Disappointing showing out of Fath (HIMARS) equivalent.

Out of 5 Fath only one scored a direct hit (20% accuracy). Error in interial guidance does not make sense since inertial guidance loses accuracy as time passes and given very short range of this missile (75KM) time from launch to impact should have been very very quick.

Possible this was a different type of rocket launch and not Fath. Could also mean GNSS is not very accurate especially in Middle East.

Or it can simply mean Iran needs to work on guidance kit of Fath for next generations.

A solution like this could offset most accuracy issues by simply saturating the surroundings with a rain of tungsten bearings. Against hardened structures, perhaps it's possible to forego a warhead and simply mount a tungsten penetrator which pierces through the target by sheer force alone? We could also use a thermobaric rocket like the ones the TOS-1A system fires to blanket a whole quadrant in an explosion that cover a sq. mile and causes 70% casualties to an already dug in enemy, creating a vacuum explosion thus knocking the air out of their lungs.

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I also have some questions and doubts regarding this Iranian MLRS's design. It's fine enough in it's current package if you wish to offer this technology to guerrillas and paramilitaries but for official use, I recommend something like a TATRA 8x8 chassis with a low frontal profile, blast-proof windshield and glass, a command module which has ballistic targeting computers and a datalink to ISTAR UAVs (Mohajer-6 can fill in this role).

The launcher itself should be more robust rather than slapping crude launch tubes on the back. Rather, it should have hot launch capabilities and modifiable to switch to among a variety of rockets as per mission definition (from 70km to 500+km).

 

[GrandBotBoi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578050928489422848

I think this is actually the only post of any sort talking about how the average IRGC soldier is equipped lmao. Inshallah NEZAJA adopts Ruyin-2/3 like IRGC, FARAJA, & IRIN have

 

[Beny Karachun]

Currently we know Iran operates 3BM42 as it's main APFSDS (produced in Iran) which can penetrate M1A2 everywhere but frontal turre

A tank shell from 1986?

M1A2 at its highest point of protection (that's not inert), offers around 600mm KE protection against APFSDS (per Swedish M1A2 trials). So it can likely only stop 3BM42 on frontal turret. Although carousel autoloader limits APFSDS length, it wouldn't be to hard to make a round with 650-700mm KE penetration at 2-3km

This tank shell only has 500mm of penetration capability.

my guess is something , does anybody have a good photo of Fath missile
its not good quality , but it seems unlike fateh family the warhead won't separate from the body

if that's the case maybe that explain the lower accuracy

HIMARS doesn't separate either, no such accuracy problem exists.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A tank shell from 1986?

This tank shell only has 500mm of penetration capability.


HIMARS doesn't separate either, no such accuracy problem exists.

that himrass this is fath different missile different sub system , wonder what's the point of that comment , is fath a copy of himras ?

A tank shell from 1986?

This tank shell only has 500mm of penetration capability.


HIMARS doesn't separate either, no such accuracy problem exists.

that himrass this is fath different missile different sub system , wonder what's the point of that comment , is fath a copy of himras ?

A tank shell from 1986?

This tank shell only has 500mm of penetration capability.


HIMARS doesn't separate either, no such accuracy problem exists.

that himrass this is fath different missile different sub system , wonder what's the point of that comment , is fath a copy of himras ?

 

[Beny Karachun]

hat himrass this is fath different missile different sub system , wonder what's the point of that comment , is fath a copy of himras ?

I'm saying whether the warhead detaches or not, that shouldn't be a reason for a miss

 

[Hack-Hook]

I'm saying whether the warhead detaches or not, that shouldn't be a reason for a miss

first the miss is around 20-30m which is far better than many artillery rockets around the world and far less than any other rocket without satellite guidance second it depend on the guidance system and how we guide and stabilize the rockets . its a lot easier to that with only warhead , just look at first generation fateh-110 that Syria use and the next generation of the same family missile that we have , do their precision look the same to you
and the cep from the start stated less than 30m

 

[Beny Karachun]

first the miss is around 20-30m which is far better than many artillery rockets around the world and far less than any other rocket without satellite guidance second it depend on the guidance system and how we guide and stabilize the rockets . its a lot easier to that with only warhead , just look at first generation fateh-110 that Syria use and the next generation of the same family missile that we have , do their precision look the same to you
and the cep from the start stated less than 30m

Idk that's just unguided Smerch and Uragan MLRS CEP, no guidance at all

 

[Hack-Hook]

Idk that's just unguided Smerch and Uragan MLRS CEP, no guidance at all

well do smerch need more precision ?
and if uragan have the cep of 30m considering it has less than 1/3rd of range its inferior to this system

 

[GrandBotBoi]

A tank shell from 1986?

This tank shell only has 500mm of penetration capability.


HIMARS doesn't separate either, no such accuracy problem exists.

That's more than enough for Abrams hull front & turret sides

https://twitter.com/x/status/1579128265981431808

Yet another good thread on Iranian infantry equipment from IranDefense. Very sad how they're equipped

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1579128265981431808

Yet another good thread on Iranian infantry equipment from IranDefense. Very sad how they're equipped

They're not expected to fight because there's no threat of ground war for decades into the future. Best they modernize all at once at some point rather than funds unnecessarily being dumped in every year on gear that becomes obsolete fast.

 

[Beny Karachun]

That's more than enough for Abrams hull front & turret sides

Hull front? Nah.
Turret sides? Yeah probably.