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Hi, I want all Iranian members here to read/listen this.
Banisadr: Israel is a phenomenon which sees its survival and existence through the disintegration of the Middle East.
In a recent interview with Radio Asre-Jadid, Abolhassan Banisadr spoke about the crimes which are being committed by the Israeli army in Gaza, the reasons beyond them and the indifferent reaction of some Iranians to the situation. Below are some extracts which I have translated from the interview, however, the entire interview is worth listening to.
I would also like to mention that in another interview last week, he advocated a one-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. This has also been suggested in the past by others including Edward Said, Judith Butler and Yasser Arafat.
So, that being said, here are some quotations from Banisadr’s Friday interview:
“Khamenei and Netanyahu have the same way of thinking. Mr (Khamenei) believes in (a doctrine of) victory through terrorisation, and thinks that if the West Bank also becomes armed, the work is done. Mr (Netanyahu), who is committing these crimes in Gaza, is in favour of creating fear and terror (as one of his generals had stated), so these people the Palestinians) do not dare to do anything and so they accept the situation of being sub-human and of slow death. Therefore, they have similar ways of thinking. What Khamenei really means is that he wants the West Bank to come under the control of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. However...these groups in Gaza do not observe the human rights of Palestinians. If you have accepted the logic of armed violence, then you inevitably will accept that the people with the stronger military will prevail, and therefore that the Palestinians should remain under the domination of Israel. We can’t expect a power oriented mind to understand such realities.”
“The problem is that in Islamic countries the understanding of religion has become alienated and as a result people give a Godly role to power and force. ... They have created a destiny for themselves. The adventures of the crusades (in medieval times) are being repeated with one major difference. During the crusades, the west brought armies to the region and was defeated. Today, Muslims make their own money from selling oil to the west for next-to-nothing prices and then use this money they buy weapons from the west to killing each other in its favour, hence bringing their countries to the verge of disintegration.”
“Israel is a phenomenon which sees its survival and existence through the disintegration of the Middle East (region). When I was in Iran (until June 1981, when he was overthrown by a coup), I became aware of the Israeli plan for the disintegration of the countries of the region (the Middle East). This plan was being developed in the U.S. Department of Defence. This plan is being implemented wherever the U.S. has intervened since. You can see this in Libya, in Syria and in Iraq. Iran is also part of such a plan, and if Israel has an opportunity to become dominant, it will come after me and you (meaning the Iranians). Is it not being said that Israel is building bases in the Iraqi, Syrian and Iranian areas of Kurdistan. We need to follow a policy which is based on the principle of ‘negative equilibrium,’ a policy which makes it possible for all countries in the region to live independently and freely and to cooperate and coexist with what they share in common.”
“Part of the problem of Palestine, from my point of view, is internal. The Palestinians could well use the opportunity they had gained in order to establish a society based on rights. If they had done this, then Israel could neither inflict such suffering on them nor rain bombs on them all the time.”
“Here we are all facing a bitter reality, which is that as Israel was committing crimes in Gaza this week, in Syria 1700 people were also killed. (In such a situation) Mr Netanyahu can say: ‘so, I can kill more.’”
“The reason some people (referring to some Iranians) say that Gaza has nothing to do with me them is because they can’t think that people are right-oriented, and so that nations have a right to live and to have national rights. The reason a person can’t think in such a way is because, as an Iranian, s/he does not see herself as one who has such rights. If s/he thought in such a way and saw himself as a human being with rights, then, he could not say that is was none of his business because s/he knew that the violation of rights anywhere in the world is like a violation of her or his rights in Iran.”
“...Who is stealing Iranian oil? Saudi Arabia, which is allied with Israel, and Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, who are allies of Israel. So (what is happening in Gaza, from this point of view) is also our business. ...Who was involved in the October Surprise and Iran-Gate? Israel. Who helped the (Iranian) regime to continue a war with Iraq for eight years? Israel. So it is our business.”
“How does the propaganda of the dominant power confuse people like you so that you can’t see the truth? ...We are surrounded by the military and intelligence bases of the U.S. and Israel, so it is our business.”
We should become architects/creators of our destinies and terminate the life of despotism. We ourselves should become right-oriented people. We ourselves should become proud and noble nations, and become nations which organize our lives based on national rights...not letting anyone to violate even an iota of these rights.
Banisadr: Israel is a phenomenon which sees its survival and existence through the disintegration of the Middle East ▪ Iranian.com
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