Iran Unveils New Catamaran Capable Of Carrying Helicopters

[Arminkh]

anyone know the speed

50 knots

Ok, so what is the intended purpuse/use of this craft?

Given the fact that it carries a chopper, I would say coast guard and recon.

 

[OldTwilight]

no wonder why our leader decided to finish nuclear issue , with enough funds we can make strong defense in coming years and use it fruits in our economy ...

 

[Arminkh]

no wonder why our leader decided to finish nuclear issue , with enough funds we can make strong defense in coming years and use it fruits in our economy ...

True. It was a good point to cap it off.

Judging by the quotes I am reading from the military leaders, it seems like native upgrading of air force is seriously in the agenda.

@SOHEIL any update on the big bird?

 

[Penguin]

Gen fadavi has also stated they are working on a 3000 ton ship with 114 meter length with speed 45-50 knots. It could be a much bigger catamaran ship.

Sahand ship is quoted as 2,000-2,500 tons displacement

Location: Bandar Abbas, Shahid Bahonar Navy Yard
1. Sahand
Project: Mowj
Class: Jamaran, Figate
2. Shiraz
Project: unkonwn
Class: Research vessel, likely to have limited combat abilities + landing dock (?)
3. Project : Sina
Class: Paykan, Missile Boat (FAC)
4. tugboat

Iran Navy facilities in Bandar Abbas (Imagery date:9/25/2015)
1. Sina-class missile boat (under construction)
2. Yunes Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
3. Noor Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
4. Sahand Moudge-class frigate (under construction)
5. Shiraz frigate (class unknown, under construction)

The ship referred to as Shiraz may be close to 3000 tons, given it is again larger than Sahand, which is larger than Jamaran and Damavand. It appaers similar to so-called Loghman

 

[MTN1917]

Sahand ship is quoted as 2,000-2,500 tons displacement

Location: Bandar Abbas, Shahid Bahonar Navy Yard
1. Sahand
Project: Mowj
Class: Jamaran, Figate
2. Shiraz
Project: unkonwn
Class: Research vessel, likely to have limited combat abilities + landing dock (?)
3. Project : Sina
Class: Paykan, Missile Boat (FAC)
4. tugboat

Iran Navy facilities in Bandar Abbas (Imagery date:9/25/2015)
1. Sina-class missile boat (under construction)
2. Yunes Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
3. Noor Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
4. Sahand Moudge-class frigate (under construction)
5. Shiraz frigate (class unknown, under construction)

The ship referred to as Shiraz may be close to 3000 tons, given it is again larger than Sahand, which is larger than Jamaran and Damavand.

Fadavi is commander of IRGC Navy, Sahand and Shiraz belong to IRIN so Fadavi must have been talking about something else.

 

[Rukarl]

Sahand ship is quoted as 2,000-2,500 tons displacement

Location: Bandar Abbas, Shahid Bahonar Navy Yard
1. Sahand
Project: Mowj
Class: Jamaran, Figate
2. Shiraz
Project: unkonwn
Class: Research vessel, likely to have limited combat abilities + landing dock (?)
3. Project : Sina
Class: Paykan, Missile Boat (FAC)
4. tugboat

Iran Navy facilities in Bandar Abbas (Imagery date:9/25/2015)
1. Sina-class missile boat (under construction)
2. Yunes Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
3. Noor Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
4. Sahand Moudge-class frigate (under construction)
5. Shiraz frigate (class unknown, under construction)

The ship referred to as Shiraz may be close to 3000 tons, given it is again larger than Sahand, which is larger than Jamaran and Damavand.

Shiraz has mostly been built and it is for the Iranian navy, This ship gen of the IRGC navy was referring to was something they will start building this year. It seems they have not yet started construction.

By the way, in case some people may not be aware of it. Iran has two navies, one is the regular navy and the other is the IRGC navy.

 

[Penguin]

Is such a role common in naval ships?

Traditionally, there are tenders/depot ships.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depot_ship

There are some smaller ships that host multiple RiBs e.g. for special forces or drug interdiction roles
Cyclone class (US)
Armidale class (AUS)

A big 'base ship' could be Germany's new 6000 ton F125 Baden-Württemberg class frigated, with 4 'Einsatz boote' .

http://dmkn.de/buster-organische-boote-fuer-f125/

In this category also the Danish Absalon class, with 2 × RHIBs, 2 × SB90E LCP

Shiraz has mostly been built and it is for the Iranian navy, This ship gen of the IRGC navy was referring to was something they will start building this year. It seems they have not yet started construction.

By the way, in case some people may not be aware of it. Iran has two navies, one is the regular navy and the other is the IRGC navy.

I am aware of the two different services. I pointed to the IRIN ship for indication of size. Looking at LCS-2 Independence class, a 3000ton catamaran may be - vastly - larger.

Given 2 services, could this be a case of competition for size?

Independence v cruiseships

Independence v LPD17 St Antonio class

V. USS Rushmore LSD

(note also the 4200 ton Perry class frigate on the right: Perry is slightly longer 138m v 127m but less than half the width of Independence 14m v 32m)

 

[Arminkh]

The ship referred to as Shiraz may be close to 3000 tons, given it is again larger than Sahand, which is larger than Jamaran and Damavand. It appaers similar to so-called Loghman

Loghman is the name of the project. Name of the ship is IRI Khalije Fars and yes what you refer to as Shiraz could well be it:

 

[Rukarl]

Loghman is the name of the project. Name of the ship is IRI Khalije Fars and yes what you refer to as Shiraz could well be it:

Loghman has a length of 154 meters bro, that's much bigger than shiraz. Look here:

https://defence.pk/threads/new-design-for-loghman-class-destroyer.414817/

But shiraz seems to have resemblances to loghman. Perhaps it is a smaller ship which will also give them experience when making the larger loghman.

 

[Arminkh]

Loghman has a length of 154 meters bro, that's much bigger than shiraz. Look here:

https://defence.pk/threads/new-design-for-loghman-class-destroyer.414817/

But shiraz seems to have resemblances to loghman. Perhaps it is a smaller ship which will also give them experience when making the larger loghman.

It has three different level of decks. So it may be different from Sahand. But bear in mind that Sahand is also 100m long.

Judging by this picture Shiraz is longer than Sahand but not 40 m longer.

 

[scythian500]

Iranian authorities/strtageists started a new approach or as we call it THE NEXT PHASE.

The new strategy is to create effective and hardcore infra for both navies of Iran to become an assault-force, open sea capable. The plan is to make two sets of new hardware for Iranian forces:

1- Long-range, open-sea, Oceanliner conventional navy ships based on current conventional designs. These have to be able to be sent anywhere around the globe when needed. Main ships of this category will be ready around a decade from now. Jamaran, damavand, Sahand, Shiraz, Khalije Fars navy ships are all experimental steps toward that designs... There are a whole range of sub-projects going on toward that X set of ships.

2- Long-range, open sea, ocean liner unconventional navy ships based on new concepts (local or imported concepts). These set of ships will play the backbone role for IRGC. A set of totally Iranian designs are ready to be set into production lines. There are two platforms for this type of ships. The 3000 Tonnes, 114 m, oceanliner will be the platform one. A set of ships will be created out of these two platforms.

Multiply an stealth unconventional ocenaliner warship combined with other unconventional weaponry and carriers with unconventional submarines, missiles, and of course airplanes (F-313!!?) and place it on a patrol route near US main land...

Iran needed the nuclear deal... needed this leader... needed Jehadi managers... Needed IRGC... Iran needed sanctions... Iran needed Iran-Iraq war... Iran needed all to rise again... To become something her name deserves after 1000 years...

Iran can not follow Western designs... Iran has neither the budget nor the stupidity to follow a scheme that never ends... Iran suceeds with a modern 2016 style warship... USA is working on a 2026 stype warship.. This tale chasing will never end... The system must be changed and this is exactly what Iran is after... Change the rules if you can not play by those rules..

There are so many codes in recent speeches of Iranian authorities... Those who need to learn the codes will learn it... others are best seat down watch it...

 

[VEVAK]

You may be correct, as I was listening to his speech. I got the feeling this 3000 ton ship will probably also incorporate catamaran features. He also said it has speed of 45-50 knots. They will not make a classic ship design, what's the point? IR navy is already building such ships.

Sahand ship is quoted as 2,000-2,500 tons displacement

Location: Bandar Abbas, Shahid Bahonar Navy Yard
1. Sahand
Project: Mowj
Class: Jamaran, Figate
2. Shiraz
Project: unkonwn
Class: Research vessel, likely to have limited combat abilities + landing dock (?)
3. Project : Sina
Class: Paykan, Missile Boat (FAC)
4. tugboat

Iran Navy facilities in Bandar Abbas (Imagery date:9/25/2015)
1. Sina-class missile boat (under construction)
2. Yunes Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
3. Noor Kilo-class submarine (under heavy modernization and overhaul)
4. Sahand Moudge-class frigate (under construction)
5. Shiraz frigate (class unknown, under construction)

The ship referred to as Shiraz may be close to 3000 tons, given it is again larger than Sahand, which is larger than Jamaran and Damavand. It appaers similar to so-called Loghman

Shiraz and Sahand are both under 100 meters the ship he was referring to will be 114 meters and I was just speculating I have no factual data regarding the ship he is referring to and I said it because I don't know of any standard hall ships that size with a max speed of ~50 knots and a range of 10,000 km.
Even brand new +100meters long Russian ships (standard hall) don't have that speed....

And the only ship I know of that even comes close to it is the independence class
U like wiki so here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence-class_littoral_combat_ship

It's easy just fuse this new ship to the back part of the Mowj class and you got yourself a ship that can match one of the most advanced ships in the US fleet (In terms of hall designs) & NO I don't mean that literally

 

[MTN1917]

Some of Shahid Nazeri vessel specifications:

Length:55 meters

Width:14.1 meters

Height:13 meters

Weight:140 tonnes

Range:10,000km with speed of 14knots

Max speed:28 knots

Capacity:100 personnel+one helicopter

http://javanonline.ir/fa/mobile/811587

I believe the main purpose of Shahid Nazeri project was to act as an experimental design for the much larger "Saba 114" vessel, "Saba 114" is a 3,000 tonnes and 114 meters vessel with a max speed of 50knots.

Saba 114 is currently under construction.

Although Shahid Nazeri itself can be used in a coast guard capacity.

http://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1...رهای-6-کشور-تحت-سیطره-آمریکا-در-رصد-کامل-ندسا
http://www.snn.ir/mobile/mobiledetail/News/542141/233

 

[Penguin]

Le Fantasque ("The capricious one") was a large destroyer ("contre-torpilleur", "torpedo boat destroyer") of the French Navy which served during the Second World War. To this day, her class is the fastest type of destroyer ever built. Speed: 45 knots. 3,200–3,400 long tons (3,300–3,500 t) full load

Pegasus class Patrol Hydrofoil Missile (PHM) Speed: 48 knots. 241 tons.

Freedom class LCS Speed: 47 knots , displaces 3,500 metric ton
Independence class LCS Speed: 44 knots 3,104 metric tons full

 

[MTN1917]

Weight:140 tonnes

Correction:

It weights 240 tonnes.