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This is tip of ice berg.
This is so shameless ... I didn't know that. I thought they respect all. Only some ignorant shia in Pakistan engage in stuff.

You might be banned on this forum..

Haven't you seen how shamelessly the posts glorifying the cowardly killing of Umar Radi Allah Ta'ala Anhu do unnoticed?

See this:
WTF, I\m not afraid of these scumbags... they lost all the respect.

the one who sneaky killed Hz. Omar ra. while he was praying... they build a shrine for abu lulu and some made tawwaf
But the dog will go directly into hellfire and they will be there with him
 
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This is nothing.. If I show you the pages of their books published in Iran......... you might kill someone....
How is it even possible man? We as Muslim respect all. We love Aysha, Fatimah, Ali, Hasan, Hussain, Abu Bakr, Usman & Umar and all since it is a part of our faith...so how can anyone be so stupid to celebrate the murderer of the second caliph Umar?
 
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This is tip of ice berg.
No way,... this is really unhinkable... if this is true..then I understand why they are hated all over the world especially in Muslim world.

That is nothing really. Literally nothing compared to their views especially regarding their so called Imam Mahdi.

I don't want to engage in religious discussion and this forum is not for religious discussion but if you are interested then learn their views regarding their so called Imam Mahdi. It will make your blood boil after you read their hateful ideology.
yaaar I had no idea. I used to think only idiot and illiterate Zakirs say such stuff but no scholar of shia would ever say such and a false. btw we also condemn those who respect Yazeed Mal'oon.
 
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they have been promised paradise..
All people are promised paradise on conditions if they obey God .. but some didn't obey till end .. as we know how Sahabe turned against each other and started killing each other ...
If all these people go to paradise then it's gonna be a very strange place as murderer and slain all in one place ...
 
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95% of modern Irania converted to shiasm forcefully by Turk rulers in 17th century.

And that too because of short d1kk syndrome of Safavi Turks because they wanted to be completely "different" than their rival Ottoman Turk family in Anatolia to their west. Since Ottoman Turks were Sunnis so in their rivalry to look different Safavi Turks of Persia/Iran chose "shiaism" as their state religion and enforced it on then predominantly Sunni population of Persia/Iran.

The fact of the matter is that Iran today is a Shia country not because of "persians" but only because the ruling Safvi Turks wanted to be "anti" Ottoman Turks of Anatolia who were their rivals. It was just the ideological war of two Turk families that resulted in the change of religious sect in Iran. The native Persians had no importance in the eyes of ruling Safavid Turks of Iran.
 
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And that too because of short d1kk syndrome of Safavi Turks because they wanted to be completely "different" than their rival Ottoman Turk family in Anatolia to their west. Since Ottoman Turks were Sunnis so in their rivalry to look different Safavi Turks of Persia/Iran chose "shiaism" as their state religion and enforced it on then predominantly Sunni population of Persia/Iran.

The fact of the matter is that Iran today is a Shia country only because the ruling Safvi Turks wanted to be "anti" Ottoman Turks of Anatolia who were their rivals. It was just the ideological war of two Turk families that resulted in the change of religious doctrine in Iran. The native Persians had no importance in the eyes of ruling Safavid Turks of Iran.
That's really interesting. I didn't know these details. I should study their history.

All people are promised paradise on conditions if they obey God .. but some didn't obey till end .. as we know how Sahabe turned against each other and started killing each other ...
If all these people go to paradise then it's gonna be a very strange place as murderer and slain all in one place ...
no...not all... do you have any reference.
Prophet gave this promise for only ten people by name
 
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That's really interesting. I didn't know these details. I should study their history.

I don't care who this abu lula is and why he did what he did and why some ppl call him a saint or what the hell ever, even his name is strange to me lol (Abu Lula or Lulu lol) - What I fail to understand is what the hell was he doing in Madina?

Everyone is jumping here and there after hearing the name of Nahavandi yet no one asks what he was doing in Medina.

According to Sunni traditions Nahavandi was a non-muslim, according to Al-Tabari - Nahavandi was a christian, according to Amr ibn Maymun - Nahavandi was a non arab-infidel, according to Sahih al-Bukhari - Umar also describes Nahavandi as a non-Muslim "All the Praises are for Allah Who has not caused me to die at the hand of a man who claims himself to be a Muslim."

Yet no one asks what the hell was a Non-Muslim doing in Medina, forget Madina, he was hiding in Masjid ul Nabawi when he killed Umar ibn Khattab. Why was he allowed in Madina?
 
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I watched a documentary on you tube claimed the same that ottoman era is responsible for current iran arab conflict

I think it has less to do the religion and and more to do with the complex Persians and Arab have and using sect as a tool only
That's really interesting. I didn't know these details. I should study their history.


no...not all... do you have any reference.
Prophet gave this promise for only ten people by name
 
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I fear the same, but not with regards to Persian influence but Arabian and Indian influence.
Arabian influence can't do anything alone,tali dono hatho sai bajti hai,but we need to stop seeping of any external ideology into Pakistan.

This is so shameless ... I didn't know that. I thought they respect all. Only some ignorant shia in Pakistan engage in stuff.
You have no idea,neither i am having any.If you followed M.E from past 10 years you would have known,they are very strange.
 
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Arabian influence can't do anything alone,tali dono hatho sai bajti hai,but we need to stop seeping of any external ideology into Pakistan.

Indeed, taali dono haathon say bajti hai, and that is what I fear the most, aik taraf say taali bajanay k liye haath ko initiate kiya jaa raha hai knowingly or unknowingly - but dosri taraf say haath nikalna baqi hai, agar dosri taraf say haath nikal gaya toh taali baj hi jaegi and I fear that day.
 
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95% of modern Irania converted to shiasm forcefully by Turk rulers in 17th century.
one may say they were equally Kurd
by the way I'm very interested to knew from were that 95% come from

Completely agreed with you. But the problem is that Mullahs of Iran are stoking Persian nationalism as large sections of Iranian populace don't have that much religious views. Hence the rivalry right now with KSA is very much a Persian vs Arab thing.

Also Persians still haven't forgotten the Battle of Qadisiyyah. They strongly believe that Arabs defeated them and they don't see that fight as Muslims vs Kafir thing.
we revenged that in Battle of Rayy and many more battles funny thing is you never see Iranian think about it but non Iranian left an right say Iranian never forget that and want revenge for it .
if t is revenge we take revenge 10 fold.

You can do million of such acts,all of them combine won't belittle Qadisiyyah.
P.S:-Your conversion to Islam+under swords to shiasim in this also.
@Rafi @Kaka420 I hope you don't agree with Persians on this.
shiism in Iran date several hundred years before Safavid if you want to knew. and it was not under sword we destroyed Ummayed and we made Abbasid a vassal of ourselves and then made Mongol commander kill last Abbasid caliph and caliphate once for all .
wonder which was harsher

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The one who martyred Hazrat Umar Ibn e Khattab Radi Allah Ta'ala Anhu
the translation is wrong and there is no Saint in the actual writing

the one who sneaky killed Hz. Omar ra. while he was praying... they build a shrine for abu lulu and some made tawwaf
as far as stories go he was only armed with a knife and he was just a mill builder not a warrior and he managed to kill second caliph and when he was surrounded with 15 of the his companions he managed to kill half of them and injure several others and escape to central Iran and live the rest of his live . now tell me if its not showing divine intervention how he managed to do that . and by the way nobody made Tawaf there they go and say a Fatiha ,thee is lots of difference .

Lakh di lanat in bheghairaton par ...

نفرین بر بی شرمانه و بی دینشان
well I say Laa'nat on the persons who added (peace be upon) after the name of the killer of the grandson of the holy prophet after the name of the guy who orders to burn Kaaba .

You might be banned on this forum..

Haven't you seen how shamelessly the posts glorifying the cowardly killing of Umar Radi Allah Ta'ala Anhu go unnoticed?

See this:
that's not glorifying anything that is simple fact , that is cold and old fashioned fact.

But the dog will go directly into hellfire and they will be there with him
not you and not me will decide who go to hell and the one who will decide it yet to share that power with anybody else

This is nothing.. If I show you the pages of their books published in Iran......... you might kill someone....
I suggest drink some cold water instead of killing somebody for it
and you guys complaining of Indian for lynching the people who kill cows.

I don't care who this abu lula is and why he did what he did and why some ppl call him a saint or what the hell ever, even his name is strange to me lol (Abu Lula or Lulu lol) - What I fail to understand is what the hell was he doing in Madina?

Everyone is jumping here and there after hearing the name of Nahavandi yet no one asks what he was doing in Medina.

According to Sunni traditions Nahavandi was a non-muslim, according to Al-Tabari - Nahavandi was a christian, according to Amr ibn Maymun - Nahavandi was a non arab-infidel, according to Sahih al-Bukhari - Umar also describes Nahavandi as a non-Muslim "All the Praises are for Allah Who has not caused me to die at the hand of a man who claims himself to be a Muslim."

Yet no one asks what the hell was a Non-Muslim doing in Medina, forget Madina, he was hiding in Masjid ul Nabawi when he killed Umar ibn Khattab. Why was he allowed in Madina?
the question is why he were forced to go to Medina and why he was not given what was his by right because he was not Muslim ?
and as your story is saying second Caliph knew him ,what was their relation. and what made him so angry so he go and kill Second Caliph and several of his companion . and an interesting question is how he managed to escape thousands of kilometer away after the assassination ? after all he did it in day light and he was only armed with a knife and there was at least hundreds of devout Muslim in Masjid al-Nabi at the time and thousands of thousands between him and gate of Medina

also don't forget at the time Iran was still at war with Arabs , is it strange for an Iranian killing the ruler of the nation who attacked Iran ?
 
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