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Ordinary iranian are not doing what the western telling them to do. They are helping themselves for the better of Iran. And the mullah will try to make any protest against their oppressive regime as subversive from western nations.Regardless of their political stance, the Iranians should not do what the Westerners tell them to do.
Nothing religion or not when they even ban women from entering the stadium just to watch a football match. This is called oppressive and foolish.Seems like an internal conflict within Iran. Something for Iranians to work out on their own without foreign meddling or judgement.
As for Beast. It seems you misunderstand what Hussain is saying. He means that similar criticisms used against Iran have been used against China. For you to fall for whatever bell is ringing by the West against Iran, other people also fall for similar methods when it comes to China. They do not see or care about how well CPC has done and how well China has progressed. The mainstream thought is not on the things you mentioned but the things Hussain mentioned.
It is not about what is true. It is about what the narrative being spread are and how majority of people believe even if it is inaccurate or even totally untrue. As for Iran's own internal disputes, that's not for you to judge, Mullah or whatever. We don't understand them no more than they understand us. The best is to at least be respectful of the separation along those political and religious lines. A non Muslim simply cannot comment on this issue which isn't simply one of religion but one of the politics within a sect of Islam.
That is why Iranian need to do what is right regardless of other opinion and free this generation from oppressive regime.Says who?
Iran does whatever it wants. We don't give a shit about what a Chinese may think of.
What does Hannibal have to do with Persia? What do Algerians have to do with Spain?Persian has already conquered Rome with Hannibal invasion
Then later Algerian (under Hijazi leadership) conquere Spain which makes Western gets many knowledge from Muslim world to start their renaissance.
Any way we have lived in modern world and I hope no invasion to other country ever existed again
Ordinary iranian are not doing what the western telling them to do. They are helping themselves for the better of Iran. And the mullah will try to make any protest against their oppressive regime as subversive from western nations.
How pathetic is that.
Nothing religion or not when they even ban women from entering the stadium just to watch a football match. This is called oppressive and foolish.
No religion in the world will classify women watching live football match as immoral or Haram. Only evil will do that.
That is why Iranian need to do what is right regardless of other opinion and free this generation from oppressive regime.
Persian has already conquered Rome with Hannibal invasion
Then later Algerian (under Hijazi leadership) conquere Spain which makes Western gets many knowledge from Muslim world to start their renaissance.
Any way we have lived in modern world and I hope no invasion to other country ever existed again
Hannibal was a Phoenician general from modern-day Tunisia. Phoenicians were a Semitic people closely related to Arabs and originally from Lebanon and Eastern Arabia (their original homeland). Hannibal and Phoenicians not only far predated Persians but they have absolutely nothing to do with Persians.
Similarly there were no Algerians back then (a country that was created in 1960) and the conquest of Al-Andalus (Spain and Portugal) was the work of Arabs with a small contingent of allied (already conquered by then) Berbers, another closely related peoples to Arabs.
The only non-European powers that have ruled large European territories for long are the Arabs (Spain, Portugal, Malta, Crete/Greece, parts of Italy and France and the Ottomans with Greece and large areas of Balkan.
I suggest correcting your post.
They are supposed to open mouth and sang but they didn't even bother. Cos the are frustrated with the mullah killing ordinary Iranian for their own power.Haven't gone thru the whole thread but saw the vid, players many times won't sing aloud but stand together.. across sports.
What makes this a "protest" ?
its a savage and brutal regime like taliban.Iran players refuse to sing national anthem
Iran's national football team chose not to sing their country's anthem before their World Cup match, in an apparent show of solidarity with anti-government protesters.www.rnz.co.nz
The Mullah need to let go of great Iran. They led the country astray and lost a generation. They have lost the faith of all ordinary Iranian.
thats a painful thought. how did you come up with something so fcked up?those Iranians are for a fright if they over throw ayatollahs they will get a CIA backed hardcore dictator who will ramm broken bottles up their back ends in some dark cell.
on that anthem they cheated , after the revolution our anthem for more than a decade was this one
سر زد از افق مهر خاوران
فروغ دیدهی حق باوران
بهمن فر ایمان ماست
پیامت ای امام، استقلال، آزادی، نقش جان ماست
شهیدان، پیچیده در گوش زمان فریادتان
پاینده مانی و جاودان
جمهوری اسلامی ایران
English translation
Upwards on the horizon rises the Eastern Sun,
The light in the eyes of the believers in truth,
Bahman is the zenith of our faith.
Your message, O Imam, of independence, freedom, is imprinted on our souls.
O Martyrs! Your clamors echo in the ears of time.
Enduring, continuing, and eternal.
The Islamic Republic of Iran![5]
شد جمهوری اسلامی به پا
که هم دین دهد هم دنیا به ما
از انقلاب ایران دِگر
کاخ ستم گشته زیر و زِبَر
تصویر آینده ما، نقش مراد ماست
نیروی پایندهی ما، ایمان و اتحاد ماست
یاریگر ما دست خداست
ما را در این نبرد او رهنماست
در سایه ی قرآن جاودان
پاینده بادا ایران
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آزادی چو گل ها در خاک ما
شکفته شد از خون پاک ما
ایران فرستد با این سرود
رزمندگان وطن را درود
آیین جمهوری ما، پشت و پناه ماست
سود سلحشوری ما، آزادی و رفاه ماست
شام سیاه سختی گذشت
خورشید بخت ما تابنده گشت
در سایهٔ قرآن جاودان
پاینده بادا ایران
The Islamic Republic has been established,
Giving us both the Faith and the World.
Through the Iranian Revolution
The palace of oppression has been overturned.
The image of our future is the role of our desire.
Our enduring power is our faith and unity.
Our helper is the hand of God.
He is our guide in this battle.
Under the Quran's shadow
Be forever, a lasting Iran!
II
Freedom, like flowers in our soil
Blowed up with our pure blood
Iran sends with this anthem
Salute to the warriors of the fatherland
The religion of our Republic is our supporter and shelter
Profit of our bravery is our freedom and welfare
The dark night of adversity has passed
The sun of our fortune has begun glowing
Under the Quran's shadow
Be forever, a lasting Iran!
But u cannot deny the fact, Iran has an economy size of only 200 billion USD but with a population of 86 millions people. That is pathetic and if we factor in inflation. It's the same level as Iran in 1979.Given that the thread starter has published blatant disinformation in an attempt to deny the Islamic Republic's record in developing Iran, allow me to set the record straight using valid sources, not mere allegations.
I will address the topic they mentioned, and complete the picture with other important ones.
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* General development. According to the UN's Human Development indicator, Iran is a country with high human development. Placed only ten ranks below the very high human development category.
https://en.irna.ir/news/84882870/Iran-climbs-up-in-UNDP-human-development-index
When it comes to the HDI growth rate, Iran has been among the world's top thirty since the establishment of the Islamic Republic.
Oh, did I mention Iran (70th in 2019) beats China (85th in 2019) in HDI? The irony.
* Living standards. Iranians have been much better off than they used to be prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Here's a paper by an academic demonstrating the fact:
Was the Living Standard of Iranians Higher Before the Revolution?
Why the claim that the average standard of living has fallen since the revolution is false.djavadsalehi.com
This is despite 43 years of the harshest sanctions imposed by the USA regime, as well as eight years of an Imposed War (Iran-Iraq war 1980-1988), mind you.
* Public education. At the time of the Islamic Revolution, less than 45% of Iranians could read and write. Today, the literacy rate has reached around 90%, and 96% for Iranians of ages 10 to 49. Even while the population rose from 38 to 85 million over the same period.
https://financialtribune.com/articles/people/102038/iran-literacy-rate-at-96
After 58 years of rule by the ousted pro-western Pahlavi regime, Iran had no more than about 160.000 students in the higher education system. Today, between 4 and 5 million Iranians are studying at the country's numerous universities. In other words, an up to 31 fold increase, around 12 fold when factoring in the population growth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_in_Iran
https://financialtribune.com/articles/people/102038/iran-literacy-rate-at-96
The Islamic Republic expanded Iran's higher education system to such an incredible degree, that scholars are now speaking of an over-education problem. There are so many university graduates in Iran that the job market can impossibly absorb them all:
https://blogs.worldbank.org/arabvoices/iran-education-crises
And speaking of the situation of women in Iran, there's a telling detail here: some 60% or more of university entrants in Iran are female. This used to be much lower under the former regime. So much for the Islamic Republic "oppressing" and "forcing backwards norms on women".
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/dec/09/part-5-statistics-women-iran
* Science and technology. Iran took huge strides in this department since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. User Beast's statements on this aspects as on all others, are literally turning reality on its head.
In fact Iran is leading the Islamic world in scientific research. You may find plenty of information and data on this in the following thread (credit to user drmeson):
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-supremacy-in-scientific-r-d-in-the-islamic-world.739588/
* Infrastructures. Again contrary to the user's claims, infrastructural development has been outstanding in Iran.
Every aspect of this field has experienced an unprecedented boom since the foundation of the Islamic Republic.
In 1979, there were no urban railway systems anywhere in Iran. Today, six Iranian cities are equipped with metro and/or suburban commuter rail, with three additional metro systems under construction. The metro network in the capital city of Tehran features seven active lines, with a total length of 155,8 km in addition to 97,9 km of commuter lines. With 145 stations and a daily ridership of 2,5 million.
This makes Tehran Metro the 20th most extensive in the world in terms of network length, and 25th in terms of stations. At the Asian level, Tehran's metro system ranks 16th and 17th, respectively.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_Metro
In regards to the national road network, there were less than 300 kilometers of multi-lane highways and freeways in all of Iran at the end of shah regime. Have a look at how amazingly the network developed over the past 43 years under the Islamic Republic, to attain many thousands of kilometers:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/irans-infrastructure-projects.715443/post-13513339
The pace of highway construction in Iran (per capita) may well have been second only to China during the past four decades. At any rate Iran's up there amongst the top nations here as well.
Iran's electricity generation, for its part, skyrocketed from less than 25 billion kWh in 1979 to over 306 billion kWh today, an more than 10 fold increase.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...n-and-consumption-1979-2014-19_fig8_335489641
Not only that, but Iran's MAPNA industrial company has successfully reverse engineered Siemens gas turbines for power plants and is producing them 100% indigenously, even exporting to Russia. Under the former regime, Iranians could only dream of such a hi-tech feat.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1277871.shtml
MAPNA | MAPNA Turbine Engineering and Manufacturing Company (TUGA)
www.mapnagroup.com
Cutting edge Technology generated by the Islamic nations in the middle east
For years F14s have been the backbone of Iranian interceptor and air superiority fighter aircrafts. At beginning of Iran-Iraq war, most of these amazing fighters were geounded for lack of spare parts and also American advisors abandoning them. Put it beside sanctions on Iran, given the fact that...defence.pk
No matter what type of infrastructure you look at, the same sort of eye-catching, rapid progress has been registered since the 1979 Revolution. Pay attention to the following chart:
A trove of figures, reports, charts and pictures on Iran's infrastructures is to be found at the link below:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/irans-infrastructure-projects.715443/
* Public health. In this field as well, the Islamic Republic has successfully transformed Iran into a well developed nation. Not only did the numbers of physicists and medical facilities increase exponentially, but Iran has become a major destination for medical tourism, ranking 10th worldwide by value and outclassing China.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6708548/
https://raadinahealth.com/en/blog/what-is-health-tourism
https://gomediran.com/medical-tourism-in-iran/
* Industrial development. To cite just a couple of examples of Iran's tremendous industrial development under the Islamic Republic:
Iran is the world's 10th largest producer of steel:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/steel-production-by-country
The world's 7th largest producer of cement:
https://datis-inc.com/blog/how-many-cement-plants-are-producing-in-iran-2020/
The world's 20th producer of automobiles:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/car-production-by-country
Has an extensive chemical and petrochemical manufacturing sector, a massive mining sector, significant machinery and electronics industries, defence industrial sector, agriculture and large scale food processing and so on.
* Agricultural development. Information compiled by user Cancerous Tumor, reflecting Iran's prowess in this sector:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...ast-post-jcpoa-potential.737651/post-13862810
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In conclusion, as you can clearly see the narrative according to which Iran fell behind and became under-developed as a result of the 1979 Islamic Revolution and the advent of the Islamic Republic, boils down to a full fledged misrepresentation and inversion of reality.
Thing is, the anti-IR crowd may excel at shouting slogans and issuing blanket claims but when one takes the time to conduct proper research and examine the concrete information available, the whole rhetoric construct of the Islamic Republic of Iran's enemies will instantly fall flat.
Not only has Iran not regressed under the present political system, but has on the contrary experienced rare levels of development in practically every key area.
@aryobarzan