International Media account on PAF’s role in 1965 war

[Av8er]

thats right + want to add in this age missile tech is advancing with such a pace that role of pilot is becoming more like a video game player and no matter how good a pilot is today if he has a HOBS missile locked on it before he can do the same to his enemy his enemy wins

And what experience qualifiies you to make such tall claims? Still talking out of your backside as always! If fighters flying was like playing video games, retards like you would be flying. You just can't take one of the greatest pilots of all time praising Pakistani pilots. So you come back with your rants full of childish emojis. Go to Bharat Rakshak which is more suited to morons like yourself.

 

[Tipu7]

And what experience qualifiies you to make such tall claims?

He has PHD in typing key board.

fighters flying was like playing video games, retards like you would be flying. You just can't take one of the greatest pilots of all time praising Pakistani pilots. So you come back with your rants full of childish emojis. Go to Bharat Rakshak which is more suited to morons like yourself.

You should watch recent drills of Indian air force conducted few months ago.
Those drills will show you "true" capability of Indian air force, and how the tech factor and pilot factor are important in combat.

I used to believe that Indian pilots must be now as capable as Pakistani pilots are. But I was wrong.

IAF pilots are as moron as they were in past. And even huge tech gap between IAF & PAF look like a crack gap

 

[GURU DUTT]

And what experience qualifiies you to make such tall claims? Still talking out of your backside as always! If fighters flying was like playing video games, retards like you would be flying. You just can't take one of the greatest pilots of all time praising Pakistani pilots. So you come back with your rants full of childish emojis. Go to Bharat Rakshak which is more suited to morons like yourself.

ask @MastanKhan or @gambit the same question as how an avrage fighter pilot which has HMDS+HOBS combo can take out an expert pilot without one

hint with help of HMDS + HOBS combo a pilot can lock on to its enemy by mare looking at it in any direction/axis even if the enemy is at 90degrees for the pilot the rest would be done by a all aspect highly manouvrable HOBS missile like Python5

 

[Av8er]

ask @MastanKhan or @gambit the same question as how an avrage fighter pilot which has HMDS+HOBS combo can take out an expert pilot without one

hint with help of HMDS + HOBS combo a pilot can lock on to its enemy by mare looking at it in any direction/axis even if the enemy is at 90degrees for the pilot the rest would be done by a all aspect highly manouvrable HOBS missile like Python5

I am aware of what HOBS missiles are capable of, it doesn't make me an expert, and especially not that some one you are deferring to who thinks he is an expert on all things related to fighter aircraft technology by reading up secondary sources online and applying car sales analogies. You are a jealous little man, who cannot take anything positive about Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

 

[MastanKhan]

And what experience qualifiies you to make such tall claims? Still talking out of your backside as always! If fighters flying was like playing video games, retards like you would be flying. You just can't take one of the greatest pilots of all time praising Pakistani pilots. So you come back with your rants full of childish emojis. Go to Bharat Rakshak which is more suited to morons like yourself.

Hi,

You should know better---indeed it is like a video game---a very well orchestrated video game---.

Don't you remember Prince Harry's statement---about killing in afghanistan---" it was like a video game "---.

And you know what----what do they call the enemy in a video game " a bad guy "---and what do politicians and generals call opponents in real life---as " bad guys ".

Oh---even the U S F16's got their hinnies chewed by the Mig 29's with Hobs missiles many a years ago.

I am aware of what HOBS missiles are capable of, it doesn't make me an expert, and especially not some one who thinks he is an expert on all things related to fighter aircraft technology by reading up secondary sources online and applying car sales analogies. You are a jealous little man, who cannot take anything positive about Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

Hi,

He already admits that he is a little man---though I tend to disagree----.

 

[Centurion2016]

I think the forum posters don't understand the effect of HMS or hobs missles or indeed mass bvr capabikity and multiple seekers on fighters .

They need to revisit kargil air war to try and understand the participation of Indian air power over oak air power.

Forget 1965 skills are not important now.

Technology rules boys now

 

[Av8er]

I think the forum posters don't understand the effect of HMS or hobs missles or indeed mass bvr capabikity and multiple seekers on fighters .

They need to revisit kargil air war to try and understand the participation of Indian air power over oak air power.

Forget 1965 skills are not important now.

Technology rules boys now

Whatever you say genie-***!

I think the forum posters don't understand the effect of HMS or hobs missles or indeed mass bvr capabikity and multiple seekers on fighters .

They need to revisit kargil air war to try and understand the participation of Indian air power over oak air power.

Forget 1965 skills are not important now.

Technology rules boys now

1965 skills are just as relevant in modern warfare especially when enemy forces are so close geographically, despite advances in technology.

 

[Thorough Pro]

This guy is 89 years old, he is been around for very long time, he was in Pakistan about 45 years ago and if he still remembers that and mentions that in his interviews, then he must have been impressed by PAF pilots really good......no one remembers or mentions unimpressive people from 45 years ago

Not sure if this has been posted before, but great to see legendary USAF pilot Chuck Yeager rate Pakistani pilots as the best he's ever flown with based on their trainings and experience.


What would you say is one quality all great pilots possess?

Experience. I’ll tell you this: I flew with the Pakistan Air Force for three years, during the war with India, and I’d say the Pakistani pilots are the best I’ve ever flown with in my life. And it’s because they’ve got a lot of experience. That’s what makes a good pilot. The pilot with the most experience is the best. And if he’s gotten that experience in wars, he obviously has to be damn good, or else he’d be dead.

http://www.huntingtonquarterly.com/articles/issue77/chuck_yeager.php

 

[GURU DUTT]

Whatever you say genie-***!



1965 skills i.e. are just as relevant in modern warfare especially when enemy forces are so close geographically, despite advances in technology.

two things

1.technology rules today and its not like what was even two decades back (PS just like compouters what was there power and capbility say in 1990s and what is there power and capacity now) so same revolution happenned in radars , avionicks 'weapons and missile tech

2.well in 1960s its was more of like an jet engined version of WW2 arial war doctroine with aircraft gun as primarry weapons so pilot skills matterred the most

but now with PESA-AESA based radar , EW - ECM suites and HMDS & 3rd gen multi seeker BVR-HOBS its more like a video game where pilots only job is to fly the fighter but the real combat is done by on board radars , avionicks and weapons ... got it ?

 

[weqi]

two things

1.technology rules today and its not like what was even two decades back (PS just like compouters what was there power and capbility say in 1990s and what is there power and capacity now) so same revolution happenned in radars , avionicks 'weapons and missile tech

2.well in 1960s its was more of like an jet engined version of WW2 arial war doctroine with aircraft gun as promarry weapons so pilot skills matterred the most but now with PESA-AESA based radar , EW-ECM suites and HMDS& 3rd gen multi seeke BVR-HOBS its more like a video game where pilots only job is to fly the fighter but the real combat is done by on board radars , avionicks and weapons ... got it ?

so please persuade russuia su-35 for pakistan and USA not for f-35 even f-16 v pakistni pilots then level all video games

 

[Tipu7]

but now with PESA-AESA based radar , EW - ECM suites and HMDS & 3rd gen multi seeker BVR-HOBS its more like a video game where pilots only job is to fly the fighter but the real combat is done by on board radars , avionicks and weapons ... got it ?

Fool .....................

This is the word every professional pilot will call you after reading your ''logic''

Air combat is way more complex, diverse and tough now compared to past century ...............

 

[Av8er]

two things

1.technology rules today and its not like what was even two decades back (PS just like compouters what was there power and capbility say in 1990s and what is there power and capacity now) so same revolution happenned in radars , avionicks 'weapons and missile tech

2.well in 1960s its was more of like an jet engined version of WW2 arial war doctroine with aircraft gun as primarry weapons so pilot skills matterred the most

but now with PESA-AESA based radar , EW - ECM suites and HMDS & 3rd gen multi seeker BVR-HOBS its more like a video game where pilots only job is to fly the fighter but the real combat is done by on board radars , avionicks and weapons ... got it ?

In that case don't forget AIM 120s and PL10s await your air force arrival followed by AIM 9s and PL5s. Now pls STFU

 

[Tipu7]

I didn't call you fool.......
I said any Pilot will call you fool if he heard logic of yours. ..........

do you even have a single russian fighter



well im not saying PAF pilots are not skilled but in todays world its more about technology and potency /capbility of the fighter jet than the pilot alone ask @MastanKhan or @gambit for the same

waise there was no need to abuse me ....must be a martial race thing

 

[zebra7]

Yes indeed . Indians infarct shown the same towards his favorite Beechcraft at Chaklala airfield .

That Beechcraft incidence, made the Chuck Yeager so much angry, that it called Washington and demands the Invasion of the India, by USA.

 

[Local_Legend]

Poor guy was doing a good PR job forUSAs fighter jets which suppos to be superior to USSR JETS . Bad luck . Silly to see that his words stays there and his country did a summersault of its diplomacy