Intel: Why Armenia wants to make peace with Turkey

[UkroTurk]

New destination of sex tourism seems to appear.
To be honest Armenian girls are Keen on Turkishmen. Absolutely there is neither hatred nor bias from Armenian girls to us in Ukraine and Russia.

 

[CAN_TR]

We don't need Armenia and which benefits?

Isolate this terrorist shithole and let them starve.

 

[Yankee-stani]

The average Turk cares about Azerbaijan and loves it’s people not because they have lot’s of oil and gas but because they are our brothers. One people - Two states.

But even if Turkey and Armenia open their border and start diplomatic and economic relations this won’t keep Russians out of the region. Nobody can take them out of their base in Gyumri... not even Armenians.

isn't Nikol tho another Sasskahvali like in Georgia or he cant do much to limit Russian influence

New destination of sex tourism seems to appear.
To be honest Armenian girls are Keen on Turkishmen. Absolutely there is neither hatred nor bias from Armenian girls to us in Ukraine and Russia.

Arent Armos more hairy and brown looking tho

 

[Oublious]

They want peace, give Azerbadjans land back and stop with that stupid stories about genocide we make peace.

 

[dBSPL]

As for the international struggle of the Armenian diaspora, our state policy is very clear. It should be evaluated academically by academics in the joint history commission by opening the state archives. not by fake photos and political pressure.

Armenians and Turks have been the two most loyal nations with each other for centuries. The sons of those who destroyed this loyalty are still burdened to the Armenian people.

The cause of the poverty to which the Armenian people are exposed today belongs to those who are crushing this people for their political purposes.

As dear @Oublious said, the reason for the closure of the border is especially Khojaly massacre and others ,the crimes committed against humanity, ignoring international law and de facto occupation of the territory of Azerbaijan with the support of Russia.

We cant leave our brothers on the road as we didnt find on the road. Armenia must first face such crimes against humanity and international law.

 

[what]

I just can agree with what everyone said, there should be no normalization without solving the issue of Karabakh.

Azerbaijan first.

 

[rajvoSa]

Of course. somekind of political sentliment must be achived between the two. Maybe this new gov is preapered for comprimise, remeber old regime used this conflict in propaganda purposes to stay in power by redirecting the atention from their corruption... it just striking, suprising, that this guy gave such statment in first week after the election, it was his first foreign policy statments after election. Who knows.. its just interesting . no one expected that

 

[Yankee-stani]

Of course. somekind of political sentliment must be achived between the two. Maybe this new gov is preapered for comprimise, remeber old regime used this conflict in propaganda purposes to stay in power by redirecting the atention from their corruption... it just striking, suprising, that this guy gave such statment in first week after the election, it was his first foreign policy statments after election. Who knows.. its just interesting . no one expected that

If the Armenians are smart like they claim they should enter talks with Azerbaijan and get investment from Turkey as a result again I am not a Turk nor claim to push for a solution but there needs to be balance in the Caucasus the US and Russia should not dominate there too much needs to be a check also if the Caucasus is in Turkish hands easy to influence Central Asia nearby

 

[Nein]

The same country that has monuments dedicated to terrorists that killed Turkish diplomats and civilians.

Armenia is a terrorist state. Turkey should blockade them forever.

 

[Khagan1923]

Armenia wants "peace"?`First disband your fascists diaspora lobbies in the US and EU, give back stolen land, kick out the russian soldiers who patrol your borders, remove statues of terrorists and nazi ss officers, pay reparations to the families of the victims your terrorists killed and maybe, maybe we will talk.


A country who can't feed its people but has enough money to bribe American and European politicians to spew fascist shit against Turkey and the Turkish people has nothing to offer to me or my brethen. They want peace? They will beg on their knees for it, easy as that. Someone tell me one advantage we would have from normalising relations with them.

 

[rajvoSa]

If the Armenians are smart like they claim they should enter talks with Azerbaijan and get investment from Turkey as a result again I am not a Turk nor claim to push for a solution but there needs to be balance in the Caucasus the US and Russia should not dominate there too much needs to be a check also if the Caucasus is in Turkish hands easy to influence Central Asia nearby

I highly suspect eather or those two countries would be wiling to go to direct negotations right away. Going thru third party is the only way to jumpstarts a dialogue. Also, this would probably be a long process. And mind you, not everyone would welcomed it, I dont think Russians would be happy for exmpl, they are thriving in such political divide and using this frozen conflict to the max; selling milions in weaponry to both contries, using it to keep Armenia dependent on them ( having mlitary bases and large influence in domestic politics, this recent mini revo in Armenia caught them by suprise, they invested a lot in the old regime. have a feeling they are taking Azeri bross to the ride, they just flat refused to sell coastal defence system for the oil and gas rich Azeri Caspian coast, in mintime they shipped tons of weapons systems to Armenia for 'free' (norhing is for 'free'? Russians have this sovet era strategy of creating the problem then offer a solution for it so that anykind of deal favors their interests and boost their image and influence in both countries. Azeris buying lots of arms from russian in a bid to at least keep then neutral as posible, but... it will not work. Azeris are also worried about iranian influence in the country, cause iranians are a bit nervious with recent devolopments, Azeri in northern part of Iran constint majority so they are afraind of rising Azeri discontent with Iranians and are more and more pulled toward Azerbejan. So if shit hits the fan, major discontent starts spreading they are afraid of Azerbejan taking advantage and try to pull this ppl closer to their azeri homland..



I would like to hear opinions of some of Azeri bros on this topic. how they see this kind of prospect and what would be major opstacles. consider this diss like political excericize. Im not an expert on this issue, ok yes I had by bachelors degree in political science, but so do 100 of 1000s ppl. Not and expert, but one thing I am and that is obbesive with geopolitics... So, there is no somekind hidden agenda, my support and sympathy of course goes with the turkic ppl all the way. so, intent was to spark somekind of healty debate, to see is somethink like this was ppsbl, and in wich form?

Armenia wants "peace"?`First disband your fascists diaspora lobbies in the US and EU, give back stolen land, kick out the russian soldiers who patrol your borders, remove statues of terrorists and nazi ss officers, pay reparations to the families of the victims your terrorists killed and maybe, maybe we will talk.

A country who can't feed its people but has enough money to bribe American and European politicians to spew fascist shit against Turkey and the Turkish people has nothing to offer to me or my brethen. They want peace? They will beg on their knees for it, easy as that. Someone tell me one advantage we would have from normalising relations with them.

Armenian diaspora is a bit ditached from its ppl back home. I read and listened many experts, many of them Armenians, who dont really see eye to eye with these orgz. Diaspora orgz took a great hit during the recent mini revo, cause they kept silent for years on old regimes coruption and when protest broke out they kept silient. Only after protests succeded they put short statments, in support. Many Armenians, not stupid ppl, saw right thru their sharade.

there is a good podcast refering this issue and many more, the guy has some formidble background in the region, he highlitd this very prominetly

if anyone is interested, they talk about South Caucusus and Central Asia.

http://podbay.fm/show/597948126/e/1544216102?autostart=1

 

[BordoEnes]

No problem. Just give back Nagarno-Karabakh and we can have a prosperous long lasting relationship that would benefit all parties.

 

[bosanski vojnik]

If Armenia sincerely wants to make peace with Turkey then they should firstly drop any claim regarding the so called "Armenian Genocide" and cease all international lobbying attempts for it's recognition. Apologize for the mass-murder of Caucasus Turks during WW1 committed by Armenian & Russian forces.Apologize for terrarism by Armenian groups against Turkish citizens. Apologize for the Khojaly massacre and hand over Nagarno-Karabakh back to Azerbaijan and pay compensation to the families of those killed in Khojaly.

Unless the Armenians do this there is no sincere peace and should be treated as an enemy.

I am against all relations with Armenia unless they return the territories they occupy in Azerbaijan. That is the first step they have to make and then we can talk.

Armenia is just too small and unimportant for Turkey so it’s not worth it to risk the relationship with Azerbaijan for some fake friendship and warming relationships.

Exactly

Armenians are poor as fvck at the moment and are desperate for the border to be opened so that they can improve their economic situation. Don't think for one second they won't try to purchase more weapons and attack Azeri Turks once they have built up enough resources for it. They are the worst kind of backstabbers.

 

[Saithan]

Too much heated debate, and insults. I don't see any advantages for Turkey in opening borders or anything with Armenia. As far as I recall the diaspora outside the country are all enjoying their life and only connect with the "armenians" because of some attention. None of them would return back to Armenia permanently to live. Whether Armenia would give up on the genocide stuff or not the international community is a prick and would still go on with it to piss on Turkey.

So in all honesty Azerbaidjans claim is most important and we need to support them. I do expect that if possible Azerbaidjan should prefer Turkish arms before others. but I'm still grateful that they help invest in that petrochem plant.

Oh... if the Amernians girls are so much into turkish men, go ahead and spread your genes. breed armenia out of them.

 

[Nein]

Daily story of Armenia

Get the best positions in the Empire
Start rebelling and massacring Turkish villagers
Backstab your own empire that gave you priviledges for a bunch of Slavs who drink Vodka
Go on a killing spree
Get your *** kicked by the Turks
Woodrow wilson gives you land but instead you get greedy and start attacking Azerbaijan and Georgia
Weaken yourself to get your *** kicked by the Turks
Later on you get conquered by the Soviets

Now you are a shithole who is poor and your most famous armenian got famous from a sex tape.

So to feel better about yourself you start crying begging for land and money while at the same time believing Armenians are the master race.