Instead of Turkic Union

[Alienoz_TR]

Whatever you say. I look at the science and not some old chroniclers. As I told you people once believed that the earth was flat. Should we still believe that? Anyway as I said I am surprised at the reaction here. Most Turks I know don't want anything to do with some Central Asian failed states/Soviet block states and get angry each time people call them Turkic/Mongolian/Tatar people. I guess this assembly here have some Turkic/Central Asian fetish.

Also let's just say that most Turks of today in Turkey are of Turkic origin (which is false but whatever as proven by several old and new DNA studies in Turkey) then why is the physical features of the average Turk so much different from those you see in Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan?

One just need to google the Turkish football team and compare it with Turkic nations from Central Asia. As similar as Arabs and Mongolians (who btw are Turkic people)

I have never seen a Turk who looked like a Central Asian Turkic person in the Middle East or in the US where I am now. Never. And they were Turkic people and not Kurds or any other ethnic group. I know this because we discussed this issue and they agreed with me and science (DNA tests).

I dont need your DNA tests to know my own country. Here is your answer.

 

[al-Hasani]

You can bring your petro dollars to Turkey. More money, more construction, more employment. It is Arabs who are unemployed.

Really? Last time I checked it is the Turks who live in Europe in the millions and not the Arabs apart from the Palestinians who migrated for obvious reasons. I don't see any Saudis, Qataris etc. immigrants anywhere in the West.

Is that why I have seen many thousand Turks work in the Gulf region? Why do I see no Arabs going to Turkey?

Well if both regions can benefit I am all for it. As I said I have nothing against Turks I just dislike ignorant Anti-Arabs that's all. Thankfully we are rather popular in the Muslim world so we must have done something good after all.

And being a Arab student in the USA I can also say that Arab students are very well liked - more so than Chinese, Mexicans and others from what I have experienced. And that despite the 9/11. Quite a feat.

 

[Neptune]

Muslim countries/members are dived to two;

1- the goodies: they love our country

2- The ones like @al-Hasani :they always wanted to see their country in a position like Turkey's. But they know that that's not gonna happen. So they became keyboard jedhis.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Anyway Good luck to you in your war with Kurds and Persians. They have taken over Northern Syrian and Northern Iraq, while you, Arabs were killing eachother.

Iranic - Arabic : 2-0

 

[al-Hasani]

I dont need your DNA tests to know my own country. Here is your answer.

Why don't you post a picture of the Turkish national football team who are surely representative of the Turkish nation and then compare it to those of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and other "best country in the WORLDZ" countries.

I assure you that you will not stop laughing at your own ignorance/insistence of a imaginary reality.

As I already told you - I have been in Istanbul and I saw how must Turks looked like. I also know what people look like in Central Asia (Turkic people) and I could see very little similarity. And I know for a certain that all the Turks I know (I can even give them their Facebook to you so you can see that they are Turks by name and culture) agree with me also.

OH, and guess what also agrees with me? Not ancient fairytales but actual science. DNA studies. You should try it once. After all you Turks boost about how modern you are and that you drink alcohol and all. Then why not follow that approach and accept science and not some ancient nonsense? Or does that shatter your imagination?

Anyway Good luck to you in your war with Kurds and Persians. They have taken over Northern Syrian and Northern Iraq, while you, Arabs were killing eachother.

Iranic - Arabic : 2-0

So Kurds are Iranians now as well. I did not know that Einstein. I guess you learn something new each day on the Turkic (sorry Turkish section, LOL). Should I include the Jews as well since they are Semitic as Arabs? LOL.

You see 85 percent of us Arabs are Sunnis and currently the governments of Syria and Iraq are ruled by Irani Shia puppets. Apart from that I support the independence of Kurds since I see no reason to claim them as Arabic when they are not. Nor should Turkey or Iran do that.

ANyway your Kurdish problem is much bigger. After all Kurds make up a large pat of your population and they are only growing while you are declining. There are already 2 million Kurds in Istanbul alone. When I where in Istanbul I was served by quite a few Kurds.

We have a population of 350 million and are expected to grow to about 500-600 million in 2050. I think we will survive. Thank you very much.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Why don't you post a picture of the Turkish national football team who are surely representative of the Turkish nation and then compare it to those of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and other "best country in the WORLDZ" countries.

I assure you that you will not stop laughing at your own ignorance/insistence of a imaginary reality.

As I already told you - I have been in Istanbul and I saw how must Turks looked like. I also know what people look like in Central Asia (Turkic people) and I could see very little similarity. And I know for a certain that all the Turks I know (I can even give them their Facebook to you so you can see that they are Turks by name and culture) agree with me also.

OH, and guess what also agrees with me? Not ancient fairytales but actual science. DNA studies. You should try it once. After all you Turks boost about how modern you are and that you drink alcohol and all. Then why not follow that approach and accept science and not some ancient nonsense? Or does that shatter your imagination?

Who said Turks were Mongoloid foremost in the beginning?

I can quote Mesudi from Muruc ez-Zeheb. He divided Turks according to their features such as 1) slant eyed fearsome Oghuzs and 2) handsome, taller Kanglis, etc...

 

[al-Hasani]

Wait a second. Once again you use ancient fairytales and non-scientific quotes. It might have worked 200 years ago but not now in the year 2013. Secondly do you agree or disagree that the average Turk has very different features from a average Kazakh and Uzbek or not?

Turkic and Mongoloid people are related - even their language. Tartars are half Turkic/Mongolians like most of Central Asia. I am sure you know this so no reason to tell you this. Great civilization indeed, LOL. Their most famous achievement was probably the destruction of Baghdad and the Caliphate and thus the Islamic Golden Age.

I heard that the Ottomans banned books. That's must be one of the reasons why the Muslim world is so much behind the West. When Arabs ruled we were far ahead of the West.....

Something to think about.

 

[Neptune]

Şaka mı bu herif yaa. Memlekete de zaten bu arapların sabunundan başka bi şeysi hayırlı olmamıştır.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Wait a second. Once again you use ancient fairytales and non-scientific quotes. It might have worked 200 years ago but not now in the year 2013. Secondly do you agree or disagree that the average Turk has very different features from a average Kazakh and Uzbek or not?

Turkic and Mongoloid people are related - even their language. Tartars are half Turkic/Mongolians like most of Central Asia. I am sure you know this so no reason to tell you this. Great civilization indeed, LOL.

Let me teach you history then:

Kazakh and Uzbek nationalities are products of Mongol invasion.

Kazakh nation comes mainly from Nogais, Naimans, Kereits. Uzbeks nations is combination of Chagatais (Barlas, Mangyt) and Cucis (Qiyat). Uzbeks descend from Chagataids, Timurids and Shibanids.

Turks of Anatolia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Balkans, Iraq and Syria descend from Oghuzs or Guzzs. They take their royal lineage from Seljuk ibn Dukak (who descend from mythical Oghuz Kagan).

 

[Arasteh]

Pan-Arabs vs. Turks Part II, fight.

Someone please shut that Iranian member, not Shah, the other guy for calling Turks torks and mongols.

Hi... can i ask you something ?
are you this former member called ''wow'' (on Irandefence.net) ?

 

[Jamaal Yelmaaz]

Correction IVC belongs to Pakistan as Nile Valley Civilization belongs to Egypt. I don't wanna derail this thread so this is enough.

@Topic I think Pakistan should help Saudi Arabia, Iran & Turkeye to improve their relations as Pakistan enjoys brotherly relations with all these countries.

dont take quarrels of some feverish youngs seriously. they neither represent governments nor thier people..realities quite different to net world...just look at the which happen in real life....politic and economic relations of Turkish-Arabs are best of 90 years...this is just beginning....mutual reltions will be more develop in field of military, politic, economic cultural etc...

i always meet such BHs dicussions with laughing..

 

[Aegis DDG]

The Androvono culture was in S.Russia, Kyazhstan, Turkmenistan. Not that deep into C.Asia as the Arab troll states.

 

[al-Hasani]

The Androvono culture was in S.Russia, Kyazhstan, Turkmenistan. Not that deep into C.Asia as the Arab troll states.

Whatever you say "mister I don't know who I am so I invent some Japanese, British, Ghanian and other nonsense theory, LOL".

Nobody said deep Central Asia. What is deep Central Asia anyway? I said Central Asia which is truth. And those countries are pretty much in the center of Central Asia. Central Asia it is.

I know the truth hurts but I have not any problem with exposing it. When I see anti-Arab ignorants they will get a reply.

Anyway I agree with Jamaal and as I said Turkey is working close and agree with the leading Arab countries and that's what matters. Simple as.

 

[TurAr]

Really? Last time I checked it is the Turks who live in Europe in the millions and not the Arabs apart from the Palestinians who migrated for obvious reasons. I don't see any Saudis, Qataris etc. immigrants anywhere in the West.

Is that why I have seen many thousand Turks work in the Gulf region? Why do I see no Arabs going to Turkey?

Well if both regions can benefit I am all for it. As I said I have nothing against Turks I just dislike ignorant Anti-Arabs that's all. Thankfully we are rather popular in the Muslim world so we must have done something good after all.

And being a Arab student in the USA I can also say that Arab students are very well liked - more so than Chinese, Mexicans and others from what I have experienced. And that despite the 9/11. Quite a feat.

Because Turks are hardworking people while Arabs are not. If a Turk cannot find a job in home and if he had chance, he'd rather earn his money in a foreign land rather than sitting on his @ss. That is why Turkey is progressing rapidly in every field while Arabs are too busy with their pedophilic needs. No wonder why, where you were born is one of the most backward places in the planet. But of course, i do not blame you for seeking your consolation in the history but it won't help you much either

 

[Aegis DDG]

@TurAr Now that's an ownage.