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lol, did you actually realise you are describing a rumor itself.
Unless you are present in the meeting you are speculated on what happened in that meeting. That is the different between you and me, i go after the truth after facts. Fact that known for sure. But you based the action on a meeting you have not attend vis-a-vis, you are spectculating the concept.
Even in your spectulation, there are a few item that you thought wrong.
Let me listed the fact to you one by one, then gone after what you thought wrong.
Facts.
1.)US will mothball any of its ship, hence a talk of the sale of a ship that was not decommissioned is absurd as it wil lstill need to serve the remaining term in the reserve
2.)While US have a more capable carrier retired in 2007 (The USS John F Kennedy) which the USN is actually looking for home to, USS JFK is a modified Kitty Hawk Class, built later than Kitty Hawk itself. Why Kitty Hawk is purposed but not JFK?
3.) Kitty Hawk does not have capacity to operate 65 Super Hornet. Kitty Hawk is a smaller carrier that standard complement of 40 Super hornet.
4.) There are several more allied in the Asia Pacific that closer to India whom operating or Operated Aircraft Carrier. Thailand, Japan and Australia, especially Thailand and Australia whom operate US aircraft and US Ships. Japan were bounded by National Congress notto have own aircraft carrier. Hpowever, they still do.
When you put all these fact together, you will see US oferring an Aircraft Carrier to India is highly unlikely
now, go over what you said
Actually you are not buying vegetable in supermarket, you just go pick it up anjd p[ay at checkout. Or you don't just talk to the supermarket staff and tell them what you want and they give it to you.
If India want to operate US carrier and ask US for it, they will first need to study their own capability and their logistic support first, where they are going to house it, where you want them to operate and how many complement you want with an US Carrier
If US want to sell/trasnfer a carrier to India, first they need to see if India acceptable for such a delievery, and how this will benefit the US governemnt and US defence indurstry. All these study takes time and money and always generate an official report. I myself done this whe ni was in the US Army doing battle intelligence. How it will affect our AO if we pipe down this and that to Pakistani Army or Afghanistan local militia.
None of the aforeentioned report were ever exist. So even if a sale of Kitty Hawk did mentioned in that meeting, it would be those "In the moment thing" it can hardly called "US offered"
First of all, what you hear is, US want to have China in check, and Australia announce a large Military build up after said meeting. So ask yourselves this, why the US not offered it to Australia??
Well, not only India have the Carrier operation experience in Asia-Pacific region as i said, and how do you get from US want an country that operating a carrier to US actually proposed the Kitty Hawk is beyond me. Thoase two are not related to each other.
The problem is, if this is a strategic plan by the US would US be operating the Kitty Hawk itself??
In all, you based your argument in an meeting i don't think you were in, yet i based my argument on facts. There are many question was not answered that would seriously doubt if and ever US did actually offer an aircraft carrier to India.
India may want a US Carrier, that does not mean US is offering it.
So in my poinion, this was a hoax, you are free to believe anything you want, but fact is fact, you can change anything but you cannot change the facts. US Never offer any Carrier to India. That's plain and simple.
All I was trying is to give a reason behind that rumor(for me its a strategic plan) as in this case hard evidence is absent but you went ahead and accused me of giving wrong facts, facts that 'I' never provided!
Its difficult for military professionals to understand how diplomacy and politics works. let me tell you that these are not things that will be declared in public, especially when you talk about Asia and its military balance visa-vis China and US will never directly endorse such a move on records considering it has geopolitical implications. My argument was to point your imagination towards the endorsement of such a proposal and the highest levels and that means it was a done deal if it was a done deal for both parties.
BTW, USS kennedy was also in talks by certain people but I will rest my case here. I have no source honestly.