Indonesia is afraid of China's Military

[Viva_Viet]

Please next time you use 'Ah Q' as an insult, look in the mirror, because that is just what you are my ultra-nationalist Vietnamese friend.

VN's claim is as greedy and groundless like CN's one in SCS ,too. VN even occupy far more isls in Srpatly than all CN-FN-Malay combine, but the funny is that every one including Indo gen. keep accusing CN instead of VN just bcs people realize that CN is facing with an economy collapse when the TPP is done

 

[pr1v4t33r]

VN's claim is as greedy and groundless like CN's one in SCS ,too. VN even occupy far more isls in Srpatly than all CN-FN-Malay combine

We are aware of the situation. The General only doing his job by strenghtening our position on Natuna and build up military presence there. This strategic location are positioned well to ward every intrusion to our water, and this move is not addressed exclusively to China. Example is here: Indonesia Navy blow up 3 illegal vietnamese fishing boat

people realize that CN is facing with an economy collapse when the TPP is done

That's one funny superstition you have there. Keep up the joke.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

For Indonesia, I am pretty sure they don't need any "Protector" in SCS, be that the US or China, it's of best interest for Indonesian to look over to the interest of Indonesia, and stay away from either China or US.

But the ground reality is, who Indonesia is going to trust when it come down to a battle of control over SCS? For Indonesia, US is 7,000 miles away, what they want does not affect what Indonesia in such great scale, but to Indonesia, China is just a few hundred miles away, everything Chinese do have a direct effect of their neighbour.

And from what we seen over the last 2 years, I don't think China is giving out a positive image to its neighbour.

It's very easy to keep US out of SCS, by keeping China out of SCS too.

Yeah right 7000 miles away to come seeking trouble in asia, sure for you American are so pacifists, they are the only ones that had done the color revolution and regime change on the entire worlds and millions miles away from their own homeland while China has never done such thing yet. China has no issue with Indonesia over SCS and we don't have no problem to have bi-lateral talk, but any nation is trying to dragg and involve US or other "non concerned" nations as Pinoys and Vietnam did, China has made them pay a price by shown them what we can do with our 981 oil rig and reefs reclaimation...we dont afraid of esclade the conflict and be assertive when it's necessary.

And ask your gorvernement try to keep us out of SCS...if your kinds have the gut to do it, don't just hide under US's shadow and boast other's greatness

 

[jhungary]

Yeah right 7000 miles away to come seeking trouble in asia, sure for you American are so pacifists, they are the only ones that had done the color revolution and regime change on the entire worlds and millions miles away from their own homeland while China has never done such thing yet. China has no issue with Indonesia over SCS and we don't have no problem to have bi-lateral talk, but any nation is trying to dragg and involve US or other "non concerned" nations as Pinoys and Vietnam did, China has made them pay a price by shown them what we can do with our 981 oil rig and reefs reclaimation...we dont afraid of esclade the conflict and be assertive when it's necessary.

And ask your gorvernement try to keep us out of SCS...if your kinds have the gut to do it, don't just hide under US's shadow and boast other's greatness

and you ask why people see China is the bad guy

look at the Red bolted part of your comment...

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

and you ask why people see China is the bad guy

look at the Red bolted part of your comment...

Don't talk like we care about how other see us, we never trade our SCS territory for some image...LMAO.

 

[jhungary]

Don't talk like we care about how other see us, we never trade our SCS territory for some image...LMAO.

if so, then stop complaining about US/Japan and/or the west trying to contain China, if Chinese really, honestly don't care what other see them

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

if so, then stop complaining about US/Japan and/or the west trying to contain China, if Chinese really, honestly don't care what other see them

And why you dont ask US to stop compain about freedom of navigation on SCS and beeing paranoid about what the so call Anti-Access/Area Denial, Asat...these are irrelevant to US .

 

[jhungary]

And why you dont ask US to stop compain about freedom of navigation on SCS and beeing paranoid about what the so call Anti-Access/Area Denial, Asat...these are irrelevant to US .

but then you said you don't care lol, you "care" the moment you think US is irreverent in this equation.

You can't have it both way, either you care what people said to you and have comment about it, or you don't care and say screw it to whatever people said to you. You cannot go on and say you don't care what other think of China on the other hand have comment about everything what EVERYONE ELSE does

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

but then you said you don't care lol, you "care" the moment you think US is irreverent in this equation.

You can't have it both way, either you care what people said to you and have comment about it, or you don't care and say screw it to whatever people said to you. You cannot go on and say you don't care what other think of China on the other hand have comment about everything what EVERYONE ELSE does

Maybe I was not clear, I did not say that US is irrelevant...but what ever measure we have taken such Anti-Access/Area Denial, Asat..all these suppose to be irrelevant to US, and Americans have no need to complain what we did.

 

[jhungary]

Maybe I was not clear, I did not say that US is irrelevant...but what ever measure we have taken such Anti-Access/Area Denial, Asat..all these suppose to be irrelevant to US, and Americans have no need to complain what we did.

But you said you don't care, then why do you care what US have to complaint??

As I said, if China let US complaint the hack out of it, then American would be the bad guy in this scenario. But the facts is while you said China don't care, yet you comment on American have no need to complain what China did, that is being "cared" as I said, you can't have it both way, you care, and you have a comment over it, and you look like a bad guy, you don't care, you don't have any comment, you look like a good guy. You can say you don't care but you insisted on commenting on it, and want people to see you as a good guy.

US being the bad guy and have comment on everything, but that doesn't mean that China good to comment on what US did. it takes two to tango...

 

[cnleio]

My opinion, is Indonesia smarter than Vietnam (get more friends including China), developing better than Vietnam (the highest 2014 World GDP Rank between ASEAN nations).

China is too far away from Indonesia sea areas about 4,000km, jump before Vietnam China can't directly threat Indonesia interest.

Current situation: Indonesia is not afraid of China's Military, Indo-China want to cooperate with each other.

 

[William Hung]

Yeah right 7000 miles away to come seeking trouble in asia, sure for you American are so pacifists, they are the only ones that had....

You can argue who is the trouble maker and who is not...but you cannot argue against one thing: the US is now welcomed into the SCS by alot of Asian countries. First it was the Philippines, VietNam, Singapore and even now a neutral country like Indonesia is also welcoming the US into the region.

You can argue that the US is bad, but you must accept the fact that all these Asian countries are asking the US to stay in Asia.

 

[Indos]

My opinion, is Indonesia smarter than Vietnam (get more friends including China), developing better than Vietnam (the highest 2014 World GDP Rank between ASEAN nations).

China is too far away from Indonesia sea areas about 4,000km, jump before Vietnam China can't directly threat Indonesia interest.

Current situation: Indonesia is not afraid of China's Military, Indo-China want to cooperate with each other.

Indonesia and China Signed Aerospace Cooperation Agreement for 2015-2020 Period

I hope this cooperation can be really working.............

 

[NarThoD]

Vietnam is actively stealing fish from Indonesian waters?

Yes they are. Even they travel to Papuan waters just to steall fish. And we're having fun cracking and burn their ships

 

[DarkElf]

what a shamed for the biggest nation of ASEAN . Hit its Asean brothers so hard, but bowing down to the big bullier CN .

VN's claim is as greedy and groundless like CN's one in SCS ,too. VN even occupy far more isls in Srpatly than all CN-FN-Malay combine, but the funny is that every one including Indo gen. keep accusing CN instead of VN just bcs people realize that CN is facing with an economy collapse when the TPP is done

hypocrisy at its best. There's good reason why Indonesia should keep cool while watching the show.

For some reason, certain country poster in PDF really has no shame with their blatant hypocrisy.