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[Penguin]

Indonesian Navy delegation arrives in Istanbul to study acquisition of AIP submarines
Key Points

• An Indonesian delegation has arrived in Turkey to consider the acquisition of Type 214 submarines
• Development could see the Indonesian Navy operate its first air-independent propulsion-equipped boats

A computer-generated image of the Type 214 submarine, which has been offered to meet the Indonesian Navy's requirements. (HDW)

A senior delegation comprising of senior Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) officers has arrived in Istanbul to further explore the feasibility of acquiring air-independent propulsion (AIP)-equipped Type 214 submarines from Golcük Shipyard, sources close to the matter confirmed withJane's on 9 May.

The delegation is led by the TNI-AL's Assistant for Logistics to the Navy Chief, Rear Admiral Mulyadi. He is accompanied by the service's Chief of Electronic and Weaponry Service, Commodore Christianto Purnawan, and Chief of Material Service, Commodore Aziz Ikhsan Bachtiar.

Source:IHS Janes

Sea Platforms
Indonesian Navy delegation arrives in Istanbul to study acquisition of AIP submarines
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
09 May 2017

Key Points

• An Indonesian delegation has arrived in Turkey to consider the acquisition of Type 214 submarines
• Development could see the Indonesian Navy operate its first air-independent propulsion-equipped boats

A senior delegation comprising of senior Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) officers has arrived in Istanbul to further explore the feasibility of acquiring air-independent propulsion (AIP)-equipped Type 214 submarines from Golcük Shipyard, sources close to the matter confirmed with Jane's on 9 May.

The delegation is led by the TNI-AL's Assistant for Logistics to the Navy Chief, Rear Admiral Mulyadi. He is accompanied by the service's Chief of Electronic and Weaponry Service, Commodore Christianto Purnawan, and Chief of Material Service, Commodore Aziz Ikhsan Bachtiar.

Among activities taking place during the visit is a tour of Golcük Shipyard's facilities near Istanbul, where work on the Type 214 platform is taking place. The shipyard has been contracted to deliver six boats of the type to the Turkish Navy, and the first-of-class is slated for launch in 2019. The officials will also visit the IDEF 2017 exhibition during their stay in Istanbul.

The delegation's visit comes in the wake of a presentation made by Golcük Shipyard and ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) officials in early 2017 that took place at the TNI-AL headquarters in Cilangkap near Jakarta, as reported by Jane's on 13 April. TKMS is supporting Golcük Shipyard's bid to supply a variant of the Reis (Type 214)-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) to Indonesia.

According to Jane's Fighting Ships, the Reis-class platform features an overall length of 67.6 m, an overall beam of 6.3 m, and a hull draught of 6.0 m. The submarine can accommodate a crew of 27 including five officers, and can attain a top speed of 20 kt when dived, and 12 kt when surfaced.

A computer-generated image of the Type 214 submarine, which has been offered to meet the Indonesian Navy's requirements. Source: HDW

http://www.janes.com/article/70186/...tanbul-to-study-acquisition-of-aip-submarines

Military Capabilities
Indonesia to receive three new 120 m LSTs by 2018
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
28 April 2017

Indonesian shipbuilder PT Daya Radar Utama has received a contract to construct three 120 m landing ship tank (LST) platforms for the Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL), an official from the company confirmed with Jane's on 27 April.

The vessels, which will be used to transport vehicles such as the Leopard 2 main battle tanks (MBTs) operated by the Indonesian Army, is currently estimated for delivery by the end of 2018, said Frans Tedjakusuma, a business development manager at the shipyard.

A steel-cutting ceremony to mark the start of construction on all three vessels was held on 21 April at the company's facilities in Banten, Sumatra.

http://www.janes.com/article/69933/indonesia-to-receive-three-new-120-m-lsts-by-2018

These medium tanks would probably gonna replace AMX13 and Scorpion.. so that would be around.... 400.. roughly... maybe...

There are only 225 AMX13 (including 50 SPGH variants > 175 actual tanks) + 90 regunned Scorpion in service. So, 265 total light tanks/recon vehicles at best). Marines use regunned PT-76.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

There are only 225 AMX13 (including 50 SPGH variants > 175 actual tanks) + 90 regunned Scorpion in service. So, 265 total light tanks/recon vehicles at best). Marines use regunned PT-76.

what data you're using?

 

[katarabhumi]

more photo of kaplan MT, acc to some info the armour is STANAG 4 and 5 capable of defeatin 30mm rounds.
KAPLAN=TIGER=HARIMAU

So it's probably TANK MACAN for us eh?..

This tank is sure a handsome one. Pindad can learn a lot from here how to design a good looking product.

I'm curious what expertise/tech did Pindad bring/share in this collaboration with FNSS?

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[pr1v4t33r]

So it's probably TANK MACAN for us eh?..
This tank is sure a handsome one. Pindad can learn a lot from here how to design a good looking product.
I'm curious what expertise/tech did Pindad bring/share in this collaboration with FNSS?

Possibly.. Bushmaster become Sanca.. thus Kaplan could be transformed into Macan or Harimau. Windu, Pindad's engineer that quite active in facebook sounds pretty confident about the know-how they gain from developing MMWT with FNSS.

 

[Penguin]

what data you're using?

PT-76B: 70 All re-gunned with Cockerill 90mm with assistance from private company and received improved fire control system and engine upgrade. Not all operational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Navy#Ground_Vehicles
http://koarmatim.tnial.mil.id/?opti...a-kembali-perkuat-alutsista-tni-al&Itemid=191

Indonesia: 175 AMX-13/75
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13#AMX-13_.28current.29
(apparently based on Sipri general trade register)

AMX-13: 225 Including self-propelled artillery variants. Not all operational and the remaining tanks will be upgraded by PT PINDAD .
AMX mk61:105 mm howitzer, 50 acquired from The Netherlands in the 1970s-1980s
FV101 Scorpion: 90 operational according to IISS Military Balance 2014 Armed with 90mm Cockerill. Assembled by PT PINDAD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Army#Ground_Vehicles
https://garudamiliter.blogspot.nl/2012/04/amx-13.html
http://www.indomiliter.com/scorpion-90-little-mbt-nya-indonesia/

The AMX numbers match: 225-50=175.

SIPRI General Trade Register 1959-present from France, Netherlands, CCCP, UK to Indonesia

France: AMX-13/75, 1961-1963 (175 units)
Netherlands: AMX-13/105, 1980-1981 (130 units), Second-hand but modernized before delivery
Soviet Union: PT-76 Light tank, 1964 (50 units)
UK: Scorpion-90 Light tank, 1995-1996 (35 units) and 1998-1999 (45 units)

I suspect ex-Dutch AMX-13/105 replaced most older ex-French AMX-13/75, while the latter scrapped and/or used for spares.

Sipri does not list the AMX Mk61 105mm SPGH from the Netherlands but does list 100 AMX-VCI. Note 130+50 = 180

 

[gondes]

President of Indonesia, Joko Widodo, rode a motor cycle by himself in order to check trans Papua road in deep jungle of Papua!! Wow.. He looks like an infantry soldier..

 

[Nike]

PT-76B: 70 All re-gunned with Cockerill 90mm with assistance from private company and received improved fire control system and engine upgrade. Not all operational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Navy#Ground_Vehicles
http://koarmatim.tnial.mil.id/?opti...a-kembali-perkuat-alutsista-tni-al&Itemid=191

Indonesia: 175 AMX-13/75
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13#AMX-13_.28current.29
(apparently based on Sipri general trade register)

AMX-13: 225 Including self-propelled artillery variants. Not all operational and the remaining tanks will be upgraded by PT PINDAD .
AMX mk61:105 mm howitzer, 50 acquired from The Netherlands in the 1970s-1980s
FV101 Scorpion: 90 operational according to IISS Military Balance 2014 Armed with 90mm Cockerill. Assembled by PT PINDAD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Army#Ground_Vehicles
https://garudamiliter.blogspot.nl/2012/04/amx-13.html
http://www.indomiliter.com/scorpion-90-little-mbt-nya-indonesia/

The AMX numbers match: 225-50=175.

SIPRI General Trade Register 1959-present from France, Netherlands, CCCP, UK to Indonesia

France: AMX-13/75, 1961-1963 (175 units)
Netherlands: AMX-13/105, 1980-1981 (130 units), Second-hand but modernized before delivery
Soviet Union: PT-76 Light tank, 1964 (50 units)
UK: Scorpion-90 Light tank, 1995-1996 (35 units) and 1998-1999 (45 units)

I suspect ex-Dutch AMX-13/105 replaced most older ex-French AMX-13/75, while the latter scrapped and/or used for spares.

Sipri does not list the AMX Mk61 105mm SPGH from the Netherlands but does list 100 AMX-VCI. Note 130+50 = 180

the number of 400 came from the number of cavalry battalion Indonesian army want to modernize and standarized (around ten to twelve battalions), an interesting note is the Army want to put tracked vehicles with large gun as the mainstay of the Cavalry units and delegated IFV and APC like vehicles into the newly founded Mechanized brigade so far the Army got two mechanized brigade units.

 

[Penguin]

the number of 400 came from the number of cavalry battalion Indonesian army want to modernize and standarized (around ten to twelve battalions), an interesting note is the Army want to put tracked vehicles with large gun as the mainstay of the Cavalry units and delegated IFV and APC like vehicles into the newly founded Mechanized brigade so far the Army got two mechanized brigade units.

175 ex-French AMX-13/75mm + 130 Ex-Dutch AMX-13/105mm+ 80 or 90 FV101 Scorpion 90mm = 385 or 395 ( "about 400") total. Perhaps this indeed is the actual number.

Does that 400 number for KAV include the Leo2? (With approximately U.S. $287 million, Indonesia purchased 42 units of the Leopard 2A4 and 61 units of the Leopard 2 Revolution plus 10 supporting Leopard 2 tanks).

 

[Nike]

175 ex-French AMX-13/75mm + 130 Ex-Dutch AMX-13/105mm+ 80 or 90 FV101 Scorpion 90mm = 385 or 395 ( "about 400") total. Perhaps this indeed is the actual number.

Does that 400 number for KAV include the Leo2? (With approximately U.S. $287 million, Indonesia purchased 42 units of the Leopard 2A4 and 61 units of the Leopard 2 Revolution plus 10 supporting Leopard 2 tanks).

no, actually there is expansion in number of Cav. battalion recently with new detachments and units being founded in several KODAM area, as example one detachment unit is founded in Kodam Wirabuana, one unit in Cendrawasih Kodam area, one unit in Merdeka, one unit in Udayana area. And there is plan to create an armored Division within Kostrad authorized Command (Leopard 2 units is within Kostrad organization right now) with heavy cav. and IFV such as Leopard 2, Marder1A3 and ASCOD Pizzaro (currently being considered) as their armor mainstay along with M109 SPH and Astros MLRS as their fire support units.

 

[MarveL]

President of Indonesia, Joko Widodo, rode a motor cycle by himself in order to check trans Papua road in deep jungle of Papua!! Wow.. He looks like an infantry soldier..

 

[Mahakam]

View attachment 396049

New Kamen rider?

This is so bad ***

 

[katarabhumi]

View attachment 396049

New Kamen rider?

This is so bad ***

Just add Ms. Susi in there and it's HENSHIN time beibeh...

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Turkish, Indonesian battle tank unveiled in Istanbul

KAPLAN MT medium weight tank jointly developed by Turkish, Indonesian companies

KAPLAN MT Modern Medium Weight Tank developed by FNSS and Indonesian company PT Pindad is showcased during the 13th International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF'17) in Istanbul, Turkey on May 09, 2017.

By Muhammed Ali Gurtas and Dilara Zengin

ISTANBUL

Turkey’s FNSS and Indonesia’s PT Pindad unveiled the jointly developed medium weight tank, KAPLAN MT, during the 13th International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF) here Wednesday.

FNSS CEO Nail Kurt said at a news conference the KAPLAN MT program represents not only a new product but also the implementation of a new approach for cooperation in the multinational defense industry.

Kurt said that in line with FNSS’ new vision of being the globe’s trusted and respected defense partner, the tank program was launched three years ago with PT Pindad, accompanied by the two countries’ defense ministries.

“This medium weight tank is a very effective solution to today’s asymmetric warfare conditions exposed which many armies are exposed to,” he said, adding that the “conditions require easy and fast deployment, high mobility, low visibility, high firepower, and yet low cost”.

Highlighting the company’s previous successes in foreign countries, Kurt said, such as in the UAE, Malaysia and Saudi Arabia, the rest of the industry will also follow FNSS in Indonesia and it will support a boost in trade relations between the two friendly countries.

Armoured vehicles manufacturer FNSS is a joint venture in which Turkish Nurol Holding and British BAE Systems have 51 and 49 percent shareholding, respectively.

The KAPLAN MT tank is set to make a powerful contribution thanks to its fire capacity and large ammunition options as well as its superior ability to move.

A CMI Cockerill 3105 tower -- equipped to fire high-pressured 105mm shells -- provides the tank’s firepower.

Diesel-engine powered, the tank has a full automatic transmission and is able to carry three crew members -- a driver, shooter and commander.

Turkey’s Undersecretary for Defense Industries Ismail Demir said the medium weight tank development project is also a government-to-government program part of the defense cooperation agreement between two brother countries.

“FNSS from Turkey and PT Pindad from Indonesia were assigned to execute the program which started with our signatures during the previous IDEF in 2015,” Demir said.

He pointed out that the prototype would be running during the Army Day military parade in Indonesia on Oct. 5.

“After the Indonesia army qualifies the vehicle, it will be ready for serial production. This prototype will serve the needs of Indonesian Army and Turkish Army as well,” he said.

Stressing the export opportunities, Demir noted there would be great potential for sale to other countries.

“I congratulate both companies in this program and would like to emphasize that we are ready for support serial production of this program with maximizing cooperation between countries,” he added.

Dr. Sutrimo Sumarlan, Director General of Defence Potential for Indonesia, said that the three-year tank project was not only a success for Turkish and Indonesian companies but also for both friendly countries.

“Indonesia and Turkey believe that this medium weight tank would not be produced just for both countries. We can sell it to other countries, especially those from the Middle East and Central Asia,” he added.

http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/turkish-indonesian-battle-tank-unveiled-in-istanbul/815810
http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/turkish-indonesian-battle-tank-unveiled-in-istanbul/815810
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[pr1v4t33r]

Waiting for his #JKWVLOG

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Kaplan MT

to replace AMX-13

and scorpion

 

[pr1v4t33r]

How did Indonesia became an archipelagic state?

One of the distinctive features of contemporary Indonesia is that it is an archipelagic state in which the government exercises sovereignty over the waters between the islands making up the country’s land territory as well as over the islands themselves.

But the nation we now call Indonesia was not born as an archipelagic state. Until the middle of the 1950s nearly all the waters lying between the islands of Indonesia were as open to the ships of all nations as were the waters in the middle of the great oceans. These waters belonged to no state nor did any state claim any form of jurisdiction over them. As a consequence, Indonesia was made up of hundreds of pieces of territory separated from one another by high seas.

Then, suddenly, on 13 December 1957, the cabinet of Prime Minister Djuanda Kartawidjaja declared that the Indonesian government had ‘absolute sovereignty’ over all the waters lying within straight baselines drawn between the outermost islands of Indonesia. These baselines, encompassing as they did all the islands making up the country, formed Indonesia—its lands and the seas over which the government now asserted sovereignty—into a single unified territory for the first time.

During the late colonial period, the Dutch government had made episodic attempts to assert sovereignty over small margins of the seas closely adjacent to landforms. What the Djuanda Declaration asserted was of an entirely different order, claiming sovereignty for the state over vast swathes of sea previously open to all nations.

The declaration alarmed neighbouring states because of the implications it might have for the free movement of ships through the archipelago and access to fishing grounds in the waters now claimed by Indonesia. And it outraged the Western maritime powers. Fearing that it had the potential to restrict the mobility of their naval forces and disrupt international shipping, they condemned it as a gross violation of the freedom of the seas enshrined in international law and announced that they would disregard it.

The Indonesian government appeared to be in no position to overcome a challenge to its claim. It was embroiled in serious and deep-seated domestic political turmoil and its navy was far too weak to enforce any conditions the government might place on foreign warships passing through the archipelago. And yet in 1960 it enacted the declaration of the Djuanda Declaration into national legislation (Law No. 4 of 1960).

Undaunted by the storm of criticism and rejection, the Indonesians pursued and vigorously campaigned their claim though a series of UN conferences and meetings in succeeding decades, and through an equally robust series of discussions and agreements first with their near neighbours, notably Malaysia, Singapore and Australia, and later further afield, which sought to put legal flesh on its claim. As well, its diplomacy involved continuing bilateral negotiations with its major antagonists, particularly the United States, and constant and successful efforts to attract support from the ‘Third World’ group of nations in such a way as to press the maritime powers to accept the inevitability of their claim.

In all these talks, Indonesian delegations aimed to clarify thorny and agonisingly intricate problems of definition—for instance, just what is an archipelago?—and, more important, the nature of the jurisdiction that an archipelagic state might exercise over its claimed archipelagic waters. In particular, under what regime might foreign warships be allowed to pass through archipelagic waters? Would they be subjected to the innocent passage regime or would it be necessary to craft a new passage regime that, for example, allowed submarines to pass through archipelagic waters while submerged?

As these discussions entered a decisive stage, three people played pivotal roles. On the Indonesian side, the measured and incisive professorial style of Mochtar Kusumaatmadja blended brilliantly with the combative, energetic efforts of Hasjim Djalal. They made a formidable team.

Perhaps even more crucial at specific points was the masterly leadership, diplomatic sensitivity and adroit tactical nous displayed by the Fijian Satya Nandan. It was he who, as rapporteur of the Second Committee at the 1975 Geneva Law of the Sea conference, drafted the breakthrough single negotiating text which entrenched the concept of the archipelagic state and became the basis of the final agreement.

Eventually, in 1982, Indonesia gained international recognition for its claim when the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea formally recognized the existence of a new category of states known as archipelagic states and declared that these states had sovereignty over their ‘archipelagic waters’.

In the end, even the United States, which refused to sign the 1982 Convention, found itself formally recognising in 1988 ‘the archipelagic States principles as applied by Indonesia’. Indonesia’s ultimate victory, still remarkably little-heralded, was testament to the resilience, creativity, judiciousness and pragmatism of its diplomats.

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/indonesia-became-archipelagic-state/