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[Kansel]

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[Jatosint]

Stay safe all!! Limit your outdoor activities!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241548691200020481

 

[polanski]

Jakarta is negotiating to procure F-35 from the US: https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/03/22/114186/

 

[umigami]

Jakarta is negotiating to procure F-35 from the US: https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/03/22/114186/

Interesting point from the article

Some people say F35s are no deterrent for Ausy and Singa, well it seems our higher up are no longer seen them as threats that need to dettered. It's China now.

 

[NEKONEKO]

It's China now.

Its obvious.

 

[Ruhnama]

Locally produce Rafale

Why not locally produced F-16? Like turk,japan and korean

Looks like they are trying to get the cancelled Turkish F-35.

Also are PT DI interested to repalce turkey for f35 spare part producer. A variant is cheapwr while B variant most expensive. Als

Hmmmmm just mimpi siang hari

My hunch is, if we can get F35, US will not restricted us to get on our hand SM series, ASROC and VLS MK41 and Mk56

Also MK41 can launch mbda missile like aster.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3Ru4QjBX7kk0pmmERoBlKG

i know this sounds like ooga booga lowkey conspiracy , but considering the Leading Biotechnology company for creating Covid-19 Vaccine , the Moderna technology , are funded by US DARPA , why dont our ministry of defense also look into the other perspective of bio warfare and have similiar govt owned or funded biotech/bioengineering/mRNA&RNA engineering company , lets say if the scenario of covid-19 is a bioweapon were true , we could already see how massive the impact of that kind of weapon had , thus having this kind of company and integrate it with more zeni nubika battalion ,if something bad like this happened , it could minimalize the damage output from outbreak such as this matter.
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well , there's still so much thing that need to be sorted out in our administration anyway , i really hope our govt will do more public hearing to more of our younger generation .

This is my concern so far when covid still in euhan i always ask are armed force or civil govt ready with outbreak or take higher level of bio warfare? If we invest on this, we can have detereent effect also useful for civilian life

Btw are lockdwon make social disorder and unrest?

QC (Quality Control) complication that typically happen in most Indonesia made goods.

Sedikit curhat, belajar qc agak susah well maybe bcoz i beginner wkkwkwk

 

[Chestnut]

Interesting point from the article
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Some people say F35s are no deterrent for Ausy and Singa, well it seems our higher up are no longer seen them as threats that need to dettered. It's China now.

Well yeah, SG and OZ aren't the ones intruding upon national waters, and the fact that we have larger economic partnerships with the former two over China also settles that position.

 

[Raduga]

i recently stroll at maxdefense page again , their group were having a fight with the official chinese embassy of manila facebook page , they stamped maxdefense page as a hoax page , yet the member retaliate by flooding the embassy page , this rather a very interesting development , sad to hear another "Free Speech" which is a ex PLA officer and High Profile official of Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference , "Ren Zhiqiang" has vanished into thin air after criticizing and mocking Xi for the way they were handling the covid-19 .

such a fleeting thing to see a global humanitarian disaster still have a way for politics to slip in .

 

[NEKONEKO]

SG and AU is not much of threat IMO, for AU actually they support us during our early times, both the government and Australian people help us, AU represent us during negotiation with NL and Australian citizen support our independence, check out Indonesia Calling. Well, there is suspicion (from Indonesian public) about their intentions to split apart Indonesia especially with their involvement during Timor crisis and it will always be thorn in the relationship between both country. For me they are not a threat but yeah sometimes they are annoying, that one annoying friend.

We don't really care about them as long they are not causing problem, this is reflected from the trade between ID-AU, both are in G20 and sits literally next to each other but trade volume and investment is not that impressive, for defense cooperation limited to joint exercise only.

For AU ID will always be a threat, well ID could be a nice potential enemy or friend for them. Good friend that provide buffer zone, or good enemy for sparring and I think that's why there is a need for them to have strike capability, they don't have aardvark anymore but at least they have JASSM.

i recently stroll at maxdefense page again , their group were having a fight with the official chinese embassy of manila facebook page , they stamped maxdefense page as a hoax page , yet the member retaliate by flooding the embassy page , this rather a very interesting development , sad to hear another "Free Speech" which is a ex PLA officer and High Profile official of Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference , "Ren Zhiqiang" has vanished into thin air after criticizing and mocking Xi for the way they were handling the covid-19 .

such a fleeting thing to see a global humanitarian disaster still have a way for politics to slip in .

I am very disappointed with them not only because of the cover up and downplaying the issue but also how they protest us when we suspend air travel from and to CN, they should prioritize and supports any kind of meassurres being taken to prevent global outbreak rather than saving their reputation, but its too late now and it already out of control and spreads to the world, and their propaganda machine is at full throttle to save their reputation (again its high priority to save their reputation), their NPC hordes also at frenzy mode because of the virus.
Our economy doesn't look good, and it will affect defence procurement and cooperation.
Wuhan Corona Virus has harmed our national interest, causing trouble and make Indonesian people suffer!

NOOOO!!!!!!

I think the number is higher but they are undetected, good luck y'all.

 

[mandala]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241741952250306560

^^ Actually its the Indonesian Air Force evaluation.

 

[Jatosint]

This is my concern so far when covid still in euhan i always ask are armed force or civil govt ready with outbreak or take higher level of bio warfare? If we invest on this, we can have detereent effect also useful for civilian life

Btw are lockdwon make social disorder and unrest?

Yes, especially if the Govt fails/are not able to provide basic necessities (sembako + uang) during lock down, especially for those working in informal sectors and included in lower-middle &/ low income class

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241741952250306560

Itu kajian AU, bukan AL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241878947417034752

 

[mandala]

Yes, especially if the Govt fails/are not able to provide basic necessities (sembako + uang) during lock down, especially for those working in informal sectors and included in lower-middle &/ low income class



Itu kajian AU, bukan AL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241878947417034752

I just edited it.

 

[Nike]

SG and AU is not much of threat IMO, for AU actually they support us during our early times, both the government and Australian people help us, AU represent us during negotiation with NL and Australian citizen support our independence, check out Indonesia Calling. Well, there is suspicion (from Indonesian public) about their intentions to split apart Indonesia especially with their involvement during Timor crisis and it will always be thorn in the relationship between both country. For me they are not a threat but yeah sometimes they are annoying, that one annoying friend.

We don't really care about them as long they are not causing problem, this is reflected from the trade between ID-AU, both are in G20 and sits literally next to each other but trade volume and investment is not that impressive, for defense cooperation limited to joint exercise only.

For AU ID will always be a threat, well ID could be a nice potential enemy or friend for them. Good friend that provide buffer zone, or good enemy for sparring and I think that's why there is a need for them to have strike capability, they don't have aardvark anymore but at least they have JASSM.

I am very disappointed with them not only because of the cover up and downplaying the issue but also how they protest us when we suspend air travel from and to CN, they should prioritize and supports any kind of meassurres being taken to prevent global outbreak rather than saving their reputation, but its too late now and it already out of control and spreads to the world, and their propaganda machine is at full throttle to save their reputation (again its high priority to save their reputation), their NPC hordes also at frenzy mode because of the virus.
Our economy doesn't look good, and it will affect defence procurement and cooperation.
Wuhan Corona Virus has harmed our national interest, causing trouble and make Indonesian people suffer!

View attachment 616254 NOOOO!!!!!!

I think the number is higher but they are undetected, good luck y'all.

Actually we can be best friend with Oz if only we dont kill their journos during Balibo five, deported them is enough compared to kill them outright, thats where the crack start to begin with and hurts our images among their population . I hope there is someone who willing to put brave stands to acknowledge our mistakes and made public apologize of thats case and starting to made sincere relationship with them without any prejudice anymore. They are actually our natural ally along with Singkies

But China and communist is different, they are outright trying to influence and disrupt our constitution of us by any necessary means, starting from the plan to create fifth elements during the heyday of PKI along with the illegal import of Chung firearms to arming peasants and farmer class (thats real), support of them for FRETILIN movements during occupation of TIMOR and their stance to acknowledge Fretilin Independence declaration in 1975, and now NATUNA cases along with their insincere during corona outbreak. I had clear suspicion of them for Papuan rebel groups....

 

[Jatosint]

The new Indonesian Presidential Aircraft, Boeing 777-300ER

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241885672799002624

 

[NEKONEKO]

The new Indonesian Presidential Aircraft, Boeing 777-300ER

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241885672799002624

You mean rented jet?
There is no pancasila emblem, I guess they only use it when being used by the president.