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[pr1v4t33r]

They all seems eager to wear out our little jet fleet for some unnecessary parade...
Ground them all. Ban aerobatic teams from performing another show until we know what went wrong. And cut down the aerobatic team number.

 

[prima99]

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@Taufan Prasetya
Kronologi:
Detik2 pertama kali pesawat berdentum dan meledak terekam kamera saya (tanda panah merah), kebetulan saya berada di posisi terdekat dengan pesawat (+/- 250m). bersama 2 fotografer yang lain yang pertama kali berteriak saat ada pesawat jatuhTepatnya di sebelah tenggara Hanggar KT-1B, di belakang-selatan hanggar tersebut ada bukit kecil... nah di balik bukit kecil tersebut pesawat jatuh dan meledak, dengan asap membung tebal tidak terlalu lama.

Ini daerah sepi berada di sebelah timur Airforce Flying School, dan di dekat hanggar pesawat KT-1B..., sementara kerumunan massa sedang berkerumun di selatan di depan podium utama untuk menyaksikan atraksi akrobatik JAT.

Beberapa menit sebelum meledak pesawat bermanuver kearah utara dan selatan bolak balik dengan altitude rendah sehingga sangat jelas tampak dengan mata telanjang. terakhir pesawat kehilangan daya angkat saat bermanuver dari selatan keutara dan jatuh meledak dan berdentum.

Tepat setelah ledakan saya berlari pertama kali mendekat bersama 2 fotografer yang lain.... tapi tepat sebelum menyentuh bukit ada POM berlari menyusul berteriak meminta untuk meninggalkan lokasi. Saya berbalik arah ... sementara 2 orang fotografer yang lain terus berlari masuk...

Setelah itu sirene berbunyi tiada henti dan ada sekitar 2 ambulan mendekat ke lokasi.. menyusul JAT & CN-295 di-grounded dan semua atraksi dihentikan... situasi pun berubah menjadi sunyi...

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about time we questions the reliability of Korean Jet Fighters? we should do a complete check on their quality of Jet Fighter as this will be a great input for the upcoming IFX, whether it'll be good or just as crappy as the T-50

 

[Indos]

Too danger maneuver like this cross over in close range must not be conducted

And this maneuver should also be banned

Only aerobatics performance that is crucial on combat that should be practiced and showed.

 

[faries]

this sad feeling, like when KT-1 and Hercules crash...rest in peace for the pilot...hope our air force can make better priority scale...

 

[prima99]

this sad feeling, like when KT-1 and Hercules crash...rest in peace for the pilot...hope our air force can make better priority scale...

better yet, we should put the strictest training to the pilots. this isn't the first time Indonesian pilot crashes and frankly speaking, i don't think we have competent pilots as of now.

 

[Indos]

about time we questions the reliability of Korean Jet Fighters? we should do a complete check on their quality of Jet Fighter as this will be a great input for the upcoming IFX, whether it'll be good or just as crappy as the T-50

Maneuver that is conducted too low from the ground will always have a risk of getting stall and actually the pilots has tried to lift the aircraft but not successful from the video released by Metro TV. What I can see from the video that the pilots fight till the end.

And if the stall happens close to the ground, it will be deathly as the pilots must push the nose down that requires more space.

After the accident there is raining ( even until now ), so I speculate there is order to lower the maneuver in order to be below the clouds ( which is danger if stall happen) so that people can see them.

I better suggest for independent inquiry beside the one conducted by Air Force.

Too many accidents happen during current Air Force commander ( plus controversial Presidential Helicopter case that later rejected by the President himself )

 

[initial_d]

better yet, we should put the stritho training to the pilots. this isn't the first time Indonesian pilot crashes and frankly speaking, i don't think we have competent pilots as of now.

Shit do happen, accept it, being a pilot especially fighter pilot is a risky job, those manouvres that they perform are a part of technique that all fighter pilot must have and do, who said indonesian AF PILOT are incompetent??!! They are COMPETENT PROFESSIONAL PILOT!! Even american fighter pilot can have fatal accident, we could only minimilize this kind of accident with proper training and maintanance, better SOP etc.

 

[Nike]

It just another case of unnecessary expedient by having too much acrobatic teams

 

[Aepsilons]

It just another case of unnecessary expedient by having too much acrobatic teams

目の中に入れても痛くない ....？

 

[Zarvan]

May ALLAH accept the sacrifice of pilots and grant them highest place in Jañnah

By the way Indonesian members here please post links of defence pages related to Indonesian Armed Forces on Facebook here on I want to like them
@Reashot Xigwin @Indos @madokafc @Jakartans@PkDef @anas_nurhafidz and others

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Complete visual of Strategic Sealift Vessel for Philippine Navy under construction at PT.PAL Indonesia

 

[CountStrike]

 

[pr1v4t33r]

 

[anas_nurhafidz]

0:15 Engine out?

It just another case of unnecessary expedient by having too much acrobatic teams

May ALLAH accept the sacrifice of pilots and grant them highest place in Jañnah

By the way Indonesian members here please post links of defence pages related to Indonesian Armed Forces on Facebook here on I want to like them
@Reashot Xigwin @Indos @madokafc @Jakartans@PkDef @anas_nurhafidz and others

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