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Indonesia and Malaysia Army joint training, MALINDO. Indonesian Army uses darker camouflage uniform with red barret

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Papua Province

Guarding PT Freeport Indonesia (majority owned by Indonesian SOE, Mind ID)

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Parliament approved Defense Budget at 134 trillion Rupiah (8.9 billion USD) for 2023 budget. Prabowo wanted defense budget at around 340 trillion Rupiah (22.5 billion USD), but only 1/3 which is approved. Once again, showing that defense budget in Indonesia will depend on Finance Minister.

Source from parliament member said more than 50 % of the spending for new equipment in 2023 will go to Defense ID. Look like acquisition of both 8 CN 235 and 11 N 219 will be part of next year defense spending. Both are financed by foreign loan according to Alman Helvast.

I dont expect submarine order will be done next year, I expect it will likely to happen in 2024 since foreign loan approval for 2023 for defense acquisition is only 600 million USD where around half of it will likely be absorbed by CN 235 and N 219 order.

 
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Defense chief says indigenous KF-21 fighter will play key role for N.K. deterrence​

Defense 14:27 September 28, 2022

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SEOUL, Sept. 28 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's Defense Minister Lee Jong-sup expressed expectations Wednesday that the country's homegrown KF-21 fighter under development will play a "great" role in deterring evolving North Korean threats.

Lee made the remarks at a ceremony celebrating the first flight of the jet that the country has been pushing to develop by 2026 under the 8.8 trillion-won (US$6.15 billion) project aimed at replacing the aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 fighters and bolstering air power.

Built by Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. (KAI), the fighter successfully carried out its maiden flight in July, but the test proceeded without any government-led ceremony due in part to uncertainties over whether the flight would succeed or fail.

"I am thankful to KAI, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), the Air Force, related companies, academia and research institutes that have dedicated themselves to the development of the KF-21 fighter," Lee said.

"The KF-21 will be a key player for air defense that dominates future battlefields and will play a great role in deterring North Korean threats," he added.

The ceremony was attended by top Seoul officials, including DAPA Minister Eom Dong-hwan and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Jung Sang-hwa, as well as Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Muhammad Herindra.

The presence of the senior official from Indonesia, a partner country in the KF-X project, apparently highlighted the country's commitment to continuing its participation in the fighter acquisition program.


DAPA officials said that Wednesday's ceremony was intended to demonstrate the capability of the KF-21 fighter to carry out its flight mission safely.

"A success in developing a Korean-style fighter means the country will become an advanced country that uses its homegrown aircraft for training Air Force pilots and defending its territorial air," a DAPA official was quoted as saying.

KF-21 prototypes are set to make more than 2,000 sorties to complete the development process by 2026.

 
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Defense chief says indigenous KF-21 fighter will play key role for N.K. deterrence​

Defense 14:27 September 28, 2022

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SEOUL, Sept. 28 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's Defense Minister Lee Jong-sup expressed expectations Wednesday that the country's homegrown KF-21 fighter under development will play a "great" role in deterring evolving North Korean threats.

Lee made the remarks at a ceremony celebrating the first flight of the jet that the country has been pushing to develop by 2026 under the 8.8 trillion-won (US$6.15 billion) project aimed at replacing the aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 fighters and bolstering air power.

Built by Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. (KAI), the fighter successfully carried out its maiden flight in July, but the test proceeded without any government-led ceremony due in part to uncertainties over whether the flight would succeed or fail.

"I am thankful to KAI, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), the Air Force, related companies, academia and research institutes that have dedicated themselves to the development of the KF-21 fighter," Lee said.

"The KF-21 will be a key player for air defense that dominates future battlefields and will play a great role in deterring North Korean threats," he added.

The ceremony was attended by top Seoul officials, including DAPA Minister Eom Dong-hwan and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Jung Sang-hwa, as well as Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Muhammad Herindra.

The presence of the senior official from Indonesia, a partner country in the KF-X project, apparently highlighted the country's commitment to continuing its participation in the fighter acquisition program.


DAPA officials said that Wednesday's ceremony was intended to demonstrate the capability of the KF-21 fighter to carry out its flight mission safely.

"A success in developing a Korean-style fighter means the country will become an advanced country that uses its homegrown aircraft for training Air Force pilots and defending its territorial air," a DAPA official was quoted as saying.

KF-21 prototypes are set to make more than 2,000 sorties to complete the development process by 2026.


They fly the plane during first flight ceremony Today

 
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See the plan of Indonesian Aerospace for this advanced composite material. This new composite manufacturing facility can both be used for civilian and military plane, including for KF21 program.

Indonesia Aerospace will be part of KF21 supply chain as well, meaning the parts like wing and tail being produced in Indonesian Aerospace will not only be used for IFX, but also for all KF21 planes in South Korea and also for KF21 export version around the world.

With the sign of new MOU with Airbus on aerostructure business, the upgrade of Indonesian Aerospace composite manufacturing facility is a must. Airbus plane is in booming now, after what happen with their main competitor, Boeing, with their plane accidents some years ago.

European 5 generation program is still facing hurdles while we see both TFX and AMCA prototypes are not yet being manufactured. With the low cost and the capability that could be regarded as 4.7 generation plane, I see KF21 block 2 will likely become magnet for any countries who seek low cost fighters and also for countries who cannot buy F 35 plane (just like Indonesia). Of course it is with the assumption that whole development program doesnt see any meaningful hurdles and can be completed (getting type certificate) as plan in 2026.

More over with US sanction on Russia, it makes many countries will avoid Russia fighter planes as well, so getting less competitor for KF21 program from Russia aerospace is likely to happen. Countries like Philippine have already shown interest, and Malaysia is still even delaying their MRCA acquisition plan into 2028. Indonesia is very likely to only operate 12 Rafales (instead of 42 planes) and so far no acquisition program for F 15 EX in Bappenas (Planning Ministry) put on blue book.


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F 16 C/D will replace Sukhoi for our F 5 squadron (where all the planes have been grounded) which is understandable and this will make the maintenance, training and operation will be more effective and efficient. Those Sukhoi will be flown back to Makassar base in Sulawesi island.

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(Yonhap Interview) KF-21 expected to reach supersonic speeds in early 2023: arms agency chief​

By Song Sang-ho

SEOUL, Sept. 29 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's homegrown KF-21 fighter jet is expected to achieve supersonic speeds during a flight test in the first quarter of next year, the state arms procurement agency chief has said, in what would be a key milestone in the country's weapon system acquisitions.

Eom Dong-hwan, minister of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), made the remarks during an exclusive interview with Yonhap News Agency, as the fighter's prototype has been undergoing flight tests since July to complete the development process by 2026.

"I think (the KF-21) is expected to reach supersonic speeds around the first quarter of next year," Eom said during the recent interview at his office in Gwacheon, just south of Seoul, ahead of the 100th day since his inauguration on June 23.

Eom Dong-hwan, minister of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), speaks during a recent interview with Yonhap News Agency at his office in Gwacheon, just south of Seoul. (Yonhap)


Securing the supersonic capability is a major part of the development efforts, led by its manufacturer, Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. (KAI), as it means all functions, including weapons systems and avionics, work smoothly irrespective of flight speeds.

Currently, the fighter makes up to three sorties each day under a rigorous testing process, though heavy precipitation this summer has led to a reduction in the planned flight tests, the minister said.

"Despite the reduction, we can surely overcome that if you look at the overall development process," he said.

Launched in 2015, the KF-21 project worth 8.8 trillion won (US$6.15 billion) seeks to develop the 4.5th-generation fighter to replace the country's aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 jets waiting to be decommissioned following decades of service.

Indonesia as a partner country has agreed to shoulder 20 percent of the development cost and make in-kind payments for 30 percent of its share. Despite the deal, the country has not made payments since the latter half of 2017.

Eom voiced hope that Indonesia may resume its payments late this year.

"We believe that by the end of this year, Indonesia may resume its payments little by little," he said.

The minister called attention to the Seoul summit between President Yoon Suk-yeol and his Indonesian counterpart, Joko Widodo, in July, where they reaffirmed their commitment to closely cooperate until the completion of the fighter project.

"Indonesia has not clearly explained yet when it would make the overdue payments, but the overall atmosphere is very positive," he said. "Though they may not make the payments all at once, we expect them to proceed gradually."


On the issue of Indonesia's in-kind payments, Eom said Jakarta has yet to specify what item it would choose to cover its share of the development cost. Speculation has lingered that the country could provide its major export item, palm oil.

"That agreement (on in-kind payments) still remains valid. But due to disruptions to supply chains in the wake of the Ukraine crisis, prices of raw materials and oil have risen," he said. "So, (in-kind payment) could be rather burdensome for Indonesia. We are closely watching developments."

Asked about his policy priorities, the minister outlined his vision to incorporate artificial intelligence, unmanned and autonomous technologies into weapons systems, like the K9 self-propelled howitzers.

"One K9 battery consists of six howitzers -- each run by five soldiers. With those technologies, we can have five personnel only for the lead howitzer while others are staffed only by a driver each," Eom said. "Using the technologies, the lead howitzer can remotely operate other howitzers when it comes to charging and firing them."

The minister has been envisioning employing new technologies not just for ground weapons systems but also for maritime and air assets, he said.

This year, South Korea has seen a sharp increase in defense exports, marked by Poland's recent contracts with South Korean firms to procure K2 battle tanks, K9 howitzers and FA-50 fighter jets.

Eom said that such arms export contracts have proceeded in careful consideration of various factors, including diplomatic relations.

"The defense ministry, as well as the foreign ministry and the National Intelligence Service, had sufficient consultations given that arms exports could lead to international conflicts and problems if they are exported to countries that do not share values like freedom and market economy."

 
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Indonesia Optimistic that KF-21 Boramae Fighter Jets Will Strengthen the Air Force​

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Deputy Defense Minister Muhammad Herindra while attending the celebration ceremony for the inaugural flight of KF-21 Boramae at Sacheon Air Base, South Korea, Wednesday (28/9/2022).((Ministry of Defense))

JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com - Indonesia is optimistic fighter jets KFX/IFX or which now has the official name KF-21 Boramae one day it will become part of the national air defense system.
This was conveyed by Deputy Minister of Defense Muhammad Herindra while attending the celebration ceremony for the inaugural flight of KF-21 Boramae at Sacheon Air Base, South Korea, Wednesday (28/9/2022).

Thus, Indonesia has hopes that the KF-21 Boramae can one day become part of the Air Force.
"Indonesia can be optimistic that one day the KF-21 Boramae will become part of Indonesia's air defense system," Herindra said in a written statement on Wednesday night.

Also read: Rafale to A-400M Aircraft Stop by Indonesia, Wamenhan: We Are Looking for the Best Defense Equipment

According to Herindra, the success of the inaugural flight of the KF-21 Boramae was a tangible form of successful development of this fighter.

"And it's a long-awaited progression," he said.

In this activity, Herindra met directly with South Korean Defense Minister Lee Jong-Sup and Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) Minister Eom Dong Hwan.

As for fighter jets KF-21 Boramae is the result of cooperation between Indonesia and South Korea.
The two countries signed a cooperation agreement on the cost-sharing of KFX/IFX fighter jet production in 2014 between Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro and South Korean Ambassador Cho Tai-young.

The agreement includes engineering and development cooperation.

Also read: KFX/IFX Fighter Jet Project and Its Complex Multiyears Cooperation

Two years later, the Government of Indonesia through PT Dirgantara Indonesia and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) signed a task distribution agreement.

The agreement provides for the portion of PT DI's involvement in the fighter jet program related to design, technical data, specifications, capability information, prototype development, component manufacturing, and testing and certification.

In the cooperation contract, the Government Carousel bears 60 percent of the project financing, then the rest is divided equally between the Government of Indonesia and KAI of 20 percent each.

 
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Focusing on KF21 is getting more and more important after Pitch Black practice result is leaked.

The fifth-generation fighters flew against dedicated opposing teams from many countries. Although the results of the mock air combats have not been revealed, according to International Military website Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) F-15SG pilot Major Arumugam Sivaraj who was part of the opposing team said that thanks to this exercise his side was able to gain experience. It was in fact revealed to the press that during one of his sorties he flew against RAAF F-35As and that the Lightning IIs were able to locate all aircraft belonging to the opposing force.

During one engagement the RAAF deployed 2 F-35As against 6 RSAF F-15SGs. RSAF Detachment Commander Colonel Mark Tan explained, that the RAAF joint strike fighters were able to find all its opponents in the air and then kill all the them before being detected by the opponents too.

 
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Alman Helvast said that Minister of Planning has agreed to weaponize 2 Indonesian Arrowhead 140 frigates that will be constructed in PT PAL Indonesia under Babcock license. The amount of money that is approved by Minister of Planning is 401 million USD (financed by foreign loan). It still needs approval from Finance Minister before the contract is signed.

The two frigate contract value is 720 million USD (without weapon-financed by foreign loan) that has been effective in Mei 2021. Currently there is redesigned work conducted by both PT PAL Indonesia and Babcock, the Indonesian version will be longer, possibly to make more space for additional Brahmos missile.

PS: Better build more Arowhead in PT PAL facility than ordering FREEM that is built in Italia. So Bappenas decision not to include FREEM acquisition program in Blue book is already correct.

We still need to buy MRTT planes, more AMRAAM and Sidewinder 9X, AEW&C plane. We need to have this AEW&C planes that we havent been familiar with and used until now as preparation for network centric warfare we are trying to introduce, before mass producing a lot of KF21 block 2 and 3 inshaAllah. At least we should buy one plane first and connect it to the system that we are trying to build with PT LEN Industry as local industry participation on the program.

And then Refurbish and upgrade our 23 F 16 C/D, ordering 2 Scorpenes to be built in PT PAL facility, more NASAMS, and around 23 Bell Helicopters (with PTDI contribution), 8 CN235, 10 N219 for Army, and 2 CN 235 for Navy. These are acquisition program that should be the priority before new administration comes.

 
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