India's Tejas and China's Xiaolong fighters compared

[GURU DUTT]

Well Sir since 1983 role of Tejas have changed a multiple times.At the beginning it was all about developing a local made in India fighter jet which has now been destined as a replacement of Bisons and to compensate for fast depleting fighter sqns of the IAF.Plz correct me if I am wrong.

well tejasis already quite good even in MK1 version and a single tejas can do work of one MIG 21(point defnce) and a Mig 27 (strategik bombing) simontainousli and also can carry more feul and wepons as for tejas getting late unlike PAF which induced JF 17 without IOC or FOC and missile firing capability IAF from day one wanted a fully capable and thouroghly tested fighter + the last goverment & IAF top brass was not keen to induce tejas as foriegn fighters also bring heavy "kick backs"and that is the main diffrence

 

[Stephen Cohen]

In the context of the enemy air forces planes like LCA are a decent enough option.

Yes that is the point of having LCA

 

[kaku1]

I doubt if they would pose any threat even today. A Typhoon or Rafale would smoke them.

The thing is IAF, PAF and to an extent even PLAAF are all poor air forces who cannot afford the money to buy bigger and better planes. LCA is by no means a modern aircraft but against FC-1 of PAF it has a fighting chance just like it has a reasonable chance against PLAAF Mig-21 variants.

In the context of the enemy air forces planes like LCA are a decent enough option.

Why Tejas pitted against Typhoon and Rafale?

Tomorrow you say, F-22 smoke the Mk2.

 

[Indian Patriot]

foriegn fighters also bring heavy "kick backs"and that is the main diffrence

LOL!! Foreign fighters are not only way better but a pressing problem is that India does not have any indigenous fighters. You talk about kickbacks, but majority of LCA including engines and radar and BVR missiles are also imported. There won't be kickbacks involved in LCA induction?

Unless India builds a world class fighter like Typhoon or Rfaale do not talk about kickbacks for foreign imports. It is the Indian armed forces who are the end users and their life is on the line not yours. So they know what they are buying.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

No sensible air force with access to money will be flying the migs.

It is NOT just about money

It takes TIME to make new planes such as SU 30 MKI and Rafale

 

[Indian Patriot]

"Kickbacks" is a convenient and very lame excuse for Indian PSUs to come up with any modern weapon systems.

It is NOT just about money

It takes TIME to make new planes such as SU 30 MKI and Rafale

Nice trolling.

A modern military with a sizeable budget will have time to build. India does not have time because India does not have a proper infrastructure at place. Countries around the world build on average 12-16 aircraft per annum.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

An air force is not about balancing needs, whatever the hell that means?, but having the best possible aircraft. On one hand you are building/buying 5th gen aircraft and on the other hand you want to keep plying junk like Mig-21 because of your perceived notions of "balancing needs". LOL!!

Calling others NAMES will not prove your knowledge

An Air force comprises of NOT just Fighter planes

It also need AWACS ; SAMs and radars ; Helicopters ; Transporters and Refuellers
Add to it Missiles and Bombs which cost a lot

Now a days you also need to INVEST heavily in Satellite systems and C4 ISR technologies

That is the meaning of BALANCING needs ; have you heard the term NETWORK centric warfare
You FOOL

India does not have time because India does not have a proper infrastructure at place. Countries around the world build on average 12-16 aircraft per annum.

India is making 18 /20 Sukhois per annum
But even that is not enough to replace Mig 21s

There fore Mig 21 will continue till 2020

 

[Indian Patriot]

Calling others NAMES will not prove your knowledge

An Air force comprises of NOT just Fighter planes

It also need AWACS ; SAMs and radars ; Helicopters ; Transporters and Refuellers
Add to it Missiles and Bombs which cost a lot

Now a days you also need to INVEST heavily in Satellite systems and C4 ISR technologies

That is the meaning of BALANCING needs ; have you heard the term NETWORK centric warfare
You FOOL

I am not calling any names I am just pointing out the stupidity in your posts.

And India does not have the required base to manufacture all these things at the same time that is why the delay. And most of the things you mentioned are assembled in India, not manufactured.

You deluded moron. Are factories that are building fighters for IAF are the same that will build SAMs, radars, helicopters, transporters, refuellers, satellites and other technologies? Is there only one factory in India which will build all these systems?

Go and study for your school test you FOOL. You don't have a clue on what you are yelling about.

 

[GURU DUTT]

LOL!! Foreign fighters are not only way better but a pressing problem is that India does not have any indigenous fighters. You talk about kickbacks, but majority of LCA including engines and radar and BVR missiles are also imported. There won't be kickbacks involved in LCA induction?

Unless India builds a world class fighter like Typhoon or Rfaale do not talk about kickbacks for foreign imports. It is the Indian armed forces who are the end users and their life is on the line not yours. So they know what they are buying.

ok tell me what is the cost of entire tejas project and what are the cost of typhoon or rafale projetcts thats when tejas was owr first attempt while EDAS or dassult are both in this buisness for almost a centuarry (under diffrent names) but given its current capabilities tejas has enof fire power for the role it is intended to and the current enemies and threat perceptions

now for the kick backs part i guess u have a soft corner for the UPA but i dont for me its always "india and indian
interests first"

 

[Indian Patriot]

India is making 18 /20 Sukhois per annum
But even that is not enough to replace Mig 21s

There fore Mig 21 will continue till 2020

IAF does not have the money to replace all mig-21s at the earliest you fool. It has got nothing to do with strategy or"balancing needs". LOL!!

 

[Stephen Cohen]

I am not calling any names I am just pointing out the stupidity in your posts.

And India does not have the required base to manufacture all these things at the same time that is why the delay. And most of the things you mentioned are assembled in India, not manufactured.

You deluded moron. Are factories that are building fighters for IAF are the same that will build SAMs, radars, helicopters, transporters, refuellers, satellites and other technologies? Is there only one factory in India which will build all these systems?

Go and study for your school test you FOOL. You don't have a clue on what you are yelling about.

It is indeed a pleasure to read your posts

Welcome to my Ignore list

 

[Indian Patriot]

ok tell me what is the cost of entire tejas project and what are the cost of typhoon or rafale projetcts thats when tejas was owr first attempt while EDAS or dassult are both in this buisness for almost a centuarry (under diffrent names) but given its current capabilities tejas has enof fire power for the role it is intended to and the current enemies and threat perceptions

now for the kick backs part i guess u have a soft corner for the UPA but i dont for me its always "india and indian
interests first"

Don't ask rhetorical questions. Answer me one thing, can India build any weapon on its own without importing from foreign suppliers?

Kickbacks can take place in the import of foreign engines as well as planes. Without engines an aircraft is obsolete, hence the kick backs would be actually bigger because of thsi critical factor

Are you working in the CBI or Intelligence Bureau? Whether I support UPA or not is none of your concern. What proof do you have that the army brass takes kick backs? So according to you entire Indian military is so corrupt that they will compromise Indian security for kick backs?

And if you are so upset about kick backs then tell your idols at DRDO to build something relevant. If DRDO cannot even come up with a decent rifle then don't blame the military for importing weapons.

It is indeed a pleasure to read your posts

Welcome to my Ignore list

It is indeed funny to see your delusions, you can ignore whoever you want. You are like alice in wonderland.

 

[Thunder.Storm]

Might have. Means not certain and your fellow member says that tejas a paper plane while ther are going for Block III.

Actually PAF Stopped The information leaking to any media thats why nobody can get original info about jf-17 thunder block II and block III. So everyone here just doing timepass. No real Info (block 2/3)

 

[Tipu7]

I doubt if they would pose any threat even today.

most of air forces in World do not even have a decent 4th Generation air craft. Thunder and Tejas have their place in current decade. They need to be upgraded heavily to compete in skies after 2020

Seriously? Then you are way wrong

then plz correct me..................................

 

[Oracle]

In summation, the Xiaolong is the aircraft of today and the Tejas is the aircraft of tomorrow.

Oh thats why LCA is not operational !