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India's 'Beijing Killer' Missile test successful.

yes this CCP killer joke is like clean the butt and fart out loud into the water from Tibet that all the fished will swim upside down and flown toward India via Brahmaputra river. :lol:

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Now, instead of trolling here you should be more concerned about how to steal and smuggle bulava blueprints.
 
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look you Indian couldn't even do the simple missle by yourself such Brahmoss, Akash wich a direct copy of 1950s Soviet SA-6..lol this one is even funny...for Indian like to portray China as copy-cat :rofl:.............................and........you expect use to believe that you did it all by yourself with Agni-5?

@Kiss_of_the_Dragon



Agni programme is fruitions of years of hardwork by Indians. It is not product of begging ,borrowing and stealing tactics such as involved of Chinese missile and rockets programme .....


Following excerpts shall cure your ignorance about missile programmed of your own country !




" Without Soviet assistance, it would not have been possible for China to make rapid progress in its nuclear and missile endeavours. Some senior Chinese still alive in 1985 blamed Mao for the collapse of the Sino-Soviet alliance. One military leader even admitted, "We should apologise to Moscow."
Marshal Nie Rongzhen acknowledged China's immense debt to the Soviet Union. According to him, the Russians provided China with prototypes of several kinds of guided missiles, aircraft, and other military equipment and relevant technical data."

Source : Lewis and Litai, op. cit., pp. 63-4.





" China also sought Soviet assistance in the development of missile technology. Under the New Defence Technical Accord of October 15, 1957, Khruschev sent an Army missile battalion with two R-2 missiles (code-named SS-2 in the West), with a range of 590 kilometres, and their associated launching equipment. The nuclear warhead China was then developing was heavier than R-2's throw-weight limit of 950 kilograms. Blueprints and technical documents in 10,151 volumes and missiles were also sent to China for manufacturing, testing, and launching purposes. Soviet missile engineers arrived in Beijing to help China set up its missile industry. China purchased 12 more R-2s. This marked the beginning of China's ballistic missile programme. The missile was now called 1059.

The Soviet Union refused to supply R-12 (its code name in the West was SS-4) because, as a rule, it did not transfer state-of-the-art weapons to allies before its own deployment of at least two more advanced systems. This did not deter the Chinese from obtaining the technology even if it had to be done in an underhand manner. Chinese students studying at the Aviation Institute, Moscow, had acquired a rudimentary knowledge of the missile. This provided the basis for the dongfeng (East Wind) DF-1 missile.

Those students learned more about R-5 because it was included in their courses and was displayed during the October 1957 parade in the Red Square. They copied restricted data and notes and questioned Soviet experts in order to extract vital information about the missile. It was not on the authorised list of sales to China because the Soviet Rocket Forces had deployed its follow-on model, the R-7 that had launched the Soviet Sputnik on October 4, 1957.

Source :
John Wilson Lewis and Hua Di, "China's Ballistic Missiles: Technologies, Strategies, Goals",
International Security, vol. 17, no. 2, pp. 13-4.

For those who doubt veracity and authenticity of Source

Hua Di is one of the top-ranking Chinese missile scientists. With the blessings of the Chinese government, Hua began in the 1980s a long association with the Centre for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University. He left for a short visit to China on December 31,1997 and was arrested shortly after arrival in Beijing. Accused of revealing Chinese secrets, Hua was recently sentenced to 15 years in prison. ( Mike Moore, "The Kafkaesque case of Hua Di", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, November/December 1999, pp. 12-14 and Mike Moore "Hua Di convicted", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, January/February 2000, p.17.)
 
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Now, instead of trolling here you should be more concerned about how to steal and smuggle bulava blueprints.



Truth is that China owes all its success to Soviet Russia in all major advanced technology fields such as nuclear , missile ,rockets technology ....

As early as 1959 when China was poor , third world country with millions of its people dying of hunger when China was not capable of making even needles ....Soviet Russia provided man , material and money to developed technology based society .


Here is the proof how as early as 1959 Russia provided China missile capable of hitting America ....

" Despite worsening Sino-Soviet relations, Khrushchev authorised the sale in December 1959 of R-11 FM as well as the Golf submarine on which it could be deployed. It was the only Soviet missile capable of hitting targets in the United States. This was also the last major Soviet weapons system received by China"

Source : John Wilson Lewis and Hua Di, op. cit., pp. 31-2

Congrats to India for a successful test.

India has long way to go ....but it's a welcome step towards fortification of defense of its shores !
 
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Truth is that China owes all its success to Soviet Russia in all major advanced technology fields such as nuclear , missile ,rockets technology ....

As early as 1959 when China was poor , third world country with millions of its people dying of hunger when China was not capable of making even needles ....Soviet Russia provided man , material and money to developed technology based society .


Here is the proof how as early as 1959 Russia provided China missile capable of hitting America ....

" Despite worsening Sino-Soviet relations, Khrushchev authorised the sale in December 1959 of R-11 FM as well as the Golf submarine on which it could be deployed. It was the only Soviet missile capable of hitting targets in the United States. This was also the last major Soviet weapons system received by China"

Source : John Wilson Lewis and Hua Di, op. cit., pp. 31-2



India has long way to go ....but it's a welcome step towards fortification of defense of its shores !

SO chinese got sub launch missile tech from russia in 1959 and even after 50 years not able to operational jl series.
 
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look you Indian couldn't even do the simple missle by yourself such Brahmoss, Akash wich a direct copy of 1950s Soviet SA-6..lol this one is even funny...for Indian like to portray China as copy-cat :rofl:.............................and........you expect use to believe that you did it all by yourself with Agni-5?

@Kiss_of_the_Dragon



Agni programme is fruitions of years of hardwork by Indians. It is not product of begging ,borrowing and stealing tactics such as involved of Chinese missile and rockets programme .....

lol, you can said what ever about China, but still you don't have a single proof that this Agni-5 is Indigenious..maybe you can call it India-genious :rofl: and don't expect people to by your craps.
 
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SO chinese got sub launch missile tech from russia in 1959 and even after 50 years not able to operational jl series.


Soviet Russia provided tens of thousands of nuclear scientists , ready made Uranium ,Plutonium processing plants, East Atomic Energy Institute , atomic bomb weapon designs everything ....yet it took 3 years for Chinese technicians to just reassemble the atomic weapon .....

These are the facts . I have long , whole thread devoted to this with archives from Peoples Republic of China Foreign Ministry confirming same but Chinese always deny even their won countries foreign ministry archives .....

lol, you can said what ever about China, but still you don't have a single proof that this Agni-5 is Indigenious..maybe you can call it India-genious :rofl: and don't expect people to by your craps.



I have provided enough proof of how you begged , borrowed ,stole technology from other countries .....
why don't you provide some links , excerpts from authentic sources to substantiate your allegations ....

But you won't .....because you can't .....You are only interested in trolling not in truth or facts ....because you can't face truth ....or facts !!!
 
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Truth is that China owes all its success to Soviet Russia in all major advanced technology fields such as nuclear , missile ,rockets technology ....

As early as 1959 when China was poor , third world country with millions of its people dying of hunger when China was not capable of making even needles ....Soviet Russia provided man , material and money to developed technology based society .

Lol come from an Indian, Indian owes not sucess at all because the sucess stories are from foreigner, all are from foreign parts and assemble together + paint jobs :rofl: and even today you Indians has millions people live with one meat per day and live in slum, and hundred thoused babies died before age of five ...you expect use to belive your IQ to develop Indigeniously your Igni-5? :lol:
 
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lol, you can said what ever about China, but still you don't have a single proof that this Agni-5 is Indigenious..maybe you can call it India-genious :rofl: and don't expect people to by your craps.

do you have any proof of agni 5 has foreign contents? everyone knows china makes low quality copy and call it chinese. brahmos is JV not a copy. akash missile looks similar to Soviet SA-6, but it is designed and produced to replace Soviet SA-6. akash is a modern and all the systems in akash are cutting edge and indigenous, all systems are manufactured in drdo.
 
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“Last time I checked”…hahah….on what? Bharat Rakshak?

Ok,here is what I said,
"last time I checked**India had built advanced communication sats even for European customers,had one of worlds largest constellation of remote sensing sats,had launched sats for foreign sats(including an Israeli spy sat..that would be spying on your country now),had sent Radio imaging sats,,we had sent a moon mission,placed our flag on lunar surface and found lunar water & had unveiled our mars orbiter last week and had send first of our navigational sats.*"

You think I am lying?Prove if you dare!!

Okay, man. Here’s the deal. Quit being such a fanboy and go get that diploma you so badly want to join the ISRO. Do something with your life.

I have not asked for & Do not need your advice,but FYI I have joined a degree course,B Tech in Mechanical engineering,Its my second year & its a four year course.In fact I joined this forum only after I joined this course.Diploma?That may be enough for SUPARCO,thats is not enough to get into R&D division of ISRO.Also I have changed my plans,I would only join ISRO after I complete by PG course,M Tech.Thanks for your advice :wave:
 
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I have provided enough proof of how you begged , borrowed ,stole technology from other countries .....
why don't you provide some links , excerpts from authentic sources to substantiate your allegations ....

But you won't .....because you can't .....You are only interested in trolling not in truth or facts ....because you can't face truth ....or facts !!!

I have provide the solide logic of all Indian military projects are nothing but a foreign designs such as INS Vikrant, LCA...nothing but shamefull stories that got milk by foreigner and the so claim its as indigenious design were in fact a sucess story of those foreign military contractors.

and you're the one couldn't prove that your Agni 5 is indigeniously, and you own the truth? :smokin:
 
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I have provide the solide logic of all Indian military projects are nothing but a foreign designs such as INS Vikrant, LCA...nothing but shamefull stories that got milk by foreigner and the so claim its as indigenious design were in fact a sucess story of those foreign military contractors.

and you're the one couldn't prove that your Agni 5 is indigeniously, and you own the truth? :smokin:




So much for Indigenous claims ....

Despite providing All building materials for Atomic weapons ....along with blue prints ....It took 4 years for Chinese to just reassemble atomic bomb ......Speaks volumes about IQ ?

Unlike you ....I talk with proofs .....you talk in air .....provide some documents ....proofs to substantiate accusations and lies ?


The Soviets provided the Chinese with a nuclear reactor, a cyclotron and fissionable material. (Lewiss and Xue, 41)

These accords also included a geological survey for uranium in exchange for the Chinese supplying raw materials to the Soviets.
In the initial stages of the nuclear project Chinese scientists and planners stressed the need for the “vigorous assistance” of the Soviets. (Ibid., 48)
The Soviets, according to Davis and Xue, felt compelled to give the Chinese more than they were comfortable in doing, because their position among socialist countries was deteriorating. (Ibid., 62)
The Soviets directly aided Chinese scientists with the deployment of Russian experts and advisers, blueprints, machinery and scientific journals; the Chinese also indirectly pushed for scientific growth out of intrinsic strategic concerns.
Chinese scientists of the Communist period were much more deliberate at acquiring as much as they could from the Soviets before the 1960 Sino-Soviet split.
Sino-Soviet relationship deteriorated as time moved on and tensions between the Chinese and the Soviets grew worse. The Soviets pulled out early on during the bomb project, but they had provided enough materials and schematics so that the Chinese could reverse engineer and innovate the necessary procedures and components to build a bomb.
The following Sino-soviet split period would be one of counterproductive populist science and general decline that would last until Deng Xiaoping’s reforms in 1978.
Sino-Soviet Scientific Collaboration B Y K E V I N H O

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