im sure you folks would plan similar stuff for Pakistan. so i dont think you should be worried about it..
He is a pro-Pakistan Afghan Pukhtoon. He is one of us, my dear brother.
Kabulie qasbeh city state does not represent all of Afghanistan.
You are right too but we cannot open that new front untill wo solve Kashmir. Kashmir is way more strategic and important to us. For the time being, it is secured as china has it under control.
We have achieved our objectives in Afghanistan, now it is time to partner with Taliban to finish the job.
India must be isolated and only we can do it.
The problems are the nationalists, the Abu jahals and namrood within your own country who value their own "afghan blood" more than Islam, daal khors and the punjabi army are the derogatory terms they use, there is no emaan, muslim brotherhood and pan Islamism within their hearts, they would rather bow down to the idol worshippers than join hands with the believers, as long as this enemy exist there can never be a confederacy between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Old crony class of Afghan snakes who betrayed Pakistan and Afghanistan is now dead. It is time to build a new reality. We must merge together. For both of us, it is the only path forward if we wish to live. otherwise wait until the next power comes and uses Afghan kabuleh against us.
What exactly are you so upset about? The suggestion by the poster that Pakistan should take control of the Wakhan corridor? Give him a rational counter-argument. This is a forum and people debate all kinds of ideas.
Secondly, don't speak on behalf of all Pakistani Pashtun and refrain from abuse and personal attacks.
I'm sorry?
Did you actually state that Afghanistan is the 'only country Pakistan can trust'?
We're talking about the same Afghanistan that refused to accept Pakistan in 1947?
The same Afghanistan that has sheltered and instigated Baloch terrorists and insurgencies in FATA since 1947?
The same Afghanistan that refused to accept the internationally recognized Afghan-Pakistan border?
The same Afghanistan that elects governments that utilize their intelligence service (NDS) to support terrorists in Pakistan?
The same Afghanistan that elects governments that cannot get India's testicles out of their mouth?
This is a discussion forum - people will discuss all manner of things. Instead of insulting them and attacking them, maybe offer a rational, civil argument explaining why their proposal is not a good idea.
Afghan kings and Afghan political elite have betrayed Afghans just as much as Pakistanis.
Afghans are our blood brothers and our closest country. We are interlinked by history.
Its whatever... But what I have realised with some members here who belong to a certain faith jump up and criticise Afghanistan but don't do so when the heat is on Iran. I won't name those members but they know who they are. And in a way I am a bit jealous that Iran has such influence within Pakistan while we Afghans don't.
Influence of Afghans over Pakistan is among Sunni Deobandis and Pukhtoons, Hindkowan, Punjabis, Potohar.
Unfortunately criminal gangs and mafias who came with Afghan refugees, maybe sent by Indians and NDS, wrecked havoc all over Pakistan. They gave Afghans a bad name in places like Karachi, Lahore, and Pakhawar.
Quite frankly, a strong Afghan-Pakistan relationship makes a lot more sense than a strong Iran-Pakistan relationship. The Iranians are more tied to their 'Persian Civilization' narrative, and will never really accept anyone else as equals - you're either Persian or you're not and there is a degree of arrogance there. Afghanistan and Pakistan, on the other hand, share ethnic, cultural, religious and historical ties that are much stronger.
But that is also why you'll find many Pakistanis extremely angry at Afghans, because it seems that Afghanistan has wasted over 7 decades trying to undermine Pakistan over the Durand Line instead of building stronger cultural and economic bonds. The whole Pashtunistan business & claiming Pakistani territory till the Indus ... the Iranians have done nothing along those lines.
And would your anger towards a brother (Afghanistan) that betrayed you not be significantly more than the anger towards a 'stranger' (Iran)? Pakistan's relationship with Afghanistan is perceived as one of betrayal and wasted time. The two countries could have been so much stronger had Afghanistan accepted Pakistan after 1947 and built bridges and ties over our shared interests, culture and history.
Complete and utter nonsense.
India wanted an unconditional, unilateral withdrawal of all Pakistani military and para-military forces from J&K prior to conducting a plebiscite, a demand that was practically untenable and unrealistic both for Pakistan and most objective international observers - who in their right mind would trust one warring party to a territorial dispute to not simply take over territory vacated by another?
The initial UNSC resolution did not infact even cover the withdrawal of Pakistani troops. The subsequent UNSC Resolutions did cover the withdrawal of Pakistani troops but tied any withdrawal to an agreement on demilitarization between Pakistan, India and the UN. Pakistan and the UN agreed to several proposals in multiple rounds of negotiations (with different UN appointed rapporteurs) but India rejected all of them.
So, in fact, it was not Pakistan that 'avoided the plebiscite', but India, with it's unreasonable demands that Pakistan unilaterally vacate all territory in J&K and basically 'trust' India to hold up it's end of the bargain, and, as I pointed out above, even the UNSC did not agree with India's demands.
Your logic makes complete sense, but then you must realize Afghans were also held captive by their rulers. During British rule, Barakzai kings were content to give away Pukhtoon land via Durand Line to British, just for an extra check to support their lavish lifestyle. Current Kabul elite also is fed by foreign suitcases of money, they are equal to our lifafa politicians in Pakistan.
I don't support taking over the Wakhan corridor through force but this statement is really annoying every time I hear it.
Pashtun will not be against Pashtun, just like it isn't Punjabi vs Punjabi when India and Pakistan have fought wars.
It is Afghan vs Pakistani and Indian vs Pakistani. Pakistani Punjabis have massacred plenty of Indian Punjabis in India-Pakistan conflicts and will do so again if need be.
Yes please, 'google' your Indian government propaganda 'reports' & 'books' and keep yourself hidden in your petty, greedy and insecure Indian echo chamber.
These Indians have derailed another great threat, which has absolutely nothing to do with them.
India has no say in affairs between Afghan and Pakistani brothers.
In sha Allah, we will merge together, it is destiny and Pakistan ideology will expand to Central Asia.
Afghanistan needs a stable and developed government, which Pakistan has, and security, which only Pakistani military and nuclear deterrence can give. This will end the uncertainty of Afghan future and allow their society to progress..
For Pakistan, Taliban military tactics (for use in Kashmir) and their Jirga system need to be studied. Genuine Islamic governance needs to be established in Pakistan to bring accountability to the corrupt. Also Pukhtoonwali can be expanded all over Pakistan, which would promote our soft power further and bring a sense of loyalty to Pakistanis for their state.
