Indian View about Wakhan Corridor and Border with Afghanistan - 2019

[fitpOsitive]

INDIAN POINT OF VIEW

Video Points

Although I and We all Pakistanis don't agree with his points but how Strategic Gilgit Baltistan is , you will find in this Video .

1 . Pakistan China borders meet through GB , so No CPEC without it .

2 . Wakhan Corridor was given to Afghanistan by UK through Durand Line Agreement .

( Not in Video : Force Command Nothern Areas needs to be converted into Corps level force with 3 Star head not 2 Star thats my point of view because after few years we may also see Skirmishes along LOC part of GB with IOJnK , they made it part of Ladakh )

I always wrote on that. Wakhan shoukd be traded with Afghanistan with some part of Pakistan. This will open direct border of Pakistan with central Asia.

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

I always wrote on that. Wakhan shoukd be traded with Afghanistan with some part of Pakistan. This will open direct border of Pakistan with central Asia.

FitpOsitive is now sensible, but when the taliban come, we dont need to. path finder is not in his right mind, tajik cant defend themselves, and you asking them to tak wakhan, i think a better policy is a firing squad for you. because you all are either 12 years old or mentally not sound.

 

[Trango Towers]

INDIAN POINT OF VIEW

Video Points

Although I and We all Pakistanis don't agree with his points but how Strategic Gilgit Baltistan is , you will find in this Video .

1 . Pakistan China borders meet through GB , so No CPEC without it .

2 . Wakhan Corridor was given to Afghanistan by UK through Durand Line Agreement .

( Not in Video : Force Command Nothern Areas needs to be converted into Corps level force with 3 Star head not 2 Star thats my point of view because after few years we may also see Skirmishes along LOC part of GB with IOJnK , they made it part of Ladakh )

Looool this is very funny..I have travelled extensively in this area and men on foot will have ti fight their way through this land. A single snipper can hold off an army of men. Remember how the GB boys whooped the Indians to gain independence.

 

[TNT]

I think this guy should come with a health warning. Don't watch his video or you die of boredom.
I wouldn't give him 1 second of my life. If that wouldn't prove to you that I have not watch the video, nothing would.

I have my own theory on Wakhan corridor, like the Tribal Area and Kashmir, this was used by the British as a buffer zone, otherwise it would have been part of Pakistan. I think we should take it from Afghanistan, even it means by force, we should, it is strategically important and would eliminate Afghanistan from the middle, giving us road access to the central Asian states and borders with Tajikistan.

It would also eliminate Afghanistan border with China. We should definitely go for it. We have killed Durrand Line by merging FATA in the KPK, we should get rid of this artificial division by the British , together with the problem of Kashmir.

Everyone should be rest assured, these problem would be solved by force. Otherwise mark my words, as soon as Indians get S 400 and Rafael, they will make a play for GB and Kashmir.
We lost Part of it in Siachin because we were not thinking that Indians would make a move. That was their first move for GB. That's why so much efforts in last few decades to keep that piece of land and losing thousands of soldiers to bad weather.

The time of taking back wakhan is gone, too late now and if we take iy, it will create a big international issue and we would face sanctions. On the other hand, wakhan is good as it makes china a neighbor of Afghanistan. China already have created routes through wakhan and deployed PLA troops. So china would not want us to close the onlu route it has to Afghanistan. It is also secured as its under control of china and we do t need to worry. One more thing is that Tajikistan is an indian ally and no advantage of having a border with them. I agree with importance of GB, we need to take back Kashmir and then sistan balochistan, both belong to Pakistan.

I am KPK resident, trust me, we will reduce you guys to mush if you even doing something that reckless. go rot in your british h2llhole, you british sl!ve.

I am also a resident on KPK and what do we have to do with wakhan? Its not even a pashtun area. Furthermore durand line was agreed by Afghanistan, backstabbing pashtuns east of durand line. Now we are happy and free in Pakistan while those evil hypocrites in kabul are suffering.

 

[Asian.Century]

Indian point of view will be this was in Ashoka times, some how this is our territory and snatched by Muslims, typical Indian bakwas.

Pakistan & China must plan and take the Wakhan corridor one or other.

 

[crankthatskunk]

The time of taking back wakhan is gone, too late now and if we take iy, it will create a big international issue and we would face sanctions. On the other hand, wakhan is good as it makes china a neighbor of Afghanistan. China already have created routes through wakhan and deployed PLA troops. So china would not want us to close the onlu route it has to Afghanistan. It is also secured as its under control of china and we do t need to worry. One more thing is that Tajikistan is an indian ally and no advantage of having a border with them. I agree with importance of GB, we need to take back Kashmir and then sistan balochistan, both belong to Pakistan.



I am also a resident on KPK and what do we have to do with wakhan? Its not even a pashtun area. Furthermore durand line was agreed by Afghanistan, backstabbing pashtuns east of durand line. Now we are happy and free in Pakistan while those evil hypocrites in kabul are suffering.

You raised valid point. China can be talked in to. Even if Pakistan takes Wakhan, their access is guaranteed by Pakistan.
When we say borders with Tajikistan, it doesn't mean only them, but whole of Central Asia. When Tajik see that, they would be willing, I am sure of it. Remember, when the malae starts in Afghanistan, Tajikistan would be in it. By approaching them, we can cut them off from Indian influence. We sat on our backsides and let this happen in the past. Tajikistan should be reminded that they siding with India is a terrible mistake.
If Balkinisation comes they gonna grab part of the Afghanistan anyway. So either you deal with them as friends or foe. We need to decide. There would be problem in Wakhan too.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Remember how the GB boys whooped the Indians to gain independence.

but but the 'ghairat-mand' here was arguing says whole kashmir was freed by pashtun tribes..
i mean who can downplay what the Batit scouts did to free the Skardu sector. And im sure there are many other stories..

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

but but the 'ghairat-mand' here was arguing says whole kashmir was freed by pashtun tribes..
i mean who can downplay what the Balitis scouts did to free the Skardu sector. And im sure there are many other stories..

The ghairat mand is saying the azad kashmir you have today is because of pashtoon tribal people, gilgit baltistan is another province. i m strictly talking about azad kashmir.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

lol, okay, now i think we made a mistake in 1947, when pashtoon went in to kashmir. i think someone in a time machine should give mullah babra a memo to let the indians take the whole kashmir.

The ghairat mand is saying the azad kashmir you have today is because of pashtoon tribal people, gilgit baltistan is another province. i m strictly talking about azad kashmir.

i just replied to what you said..
Rregardless, nobody denies pashtun role in the rebellion and nobody denies role of the Army as well in the same campaign which you dismiss..

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

i just replied to what you said..
Rregardless, nobody denies pashtun role in the rebellion and nobody denies role of the Army as well in the same campaign which you dismiss..

the army didn't do jack shit, general Gracey said sit, and the slave army back then wagging its tail to the colonial masters.

 

[Silverblaze]

INDIAN POINT OF VIEW

Video Points

Although I and We all Pakistanis don't agree with his points but how Strategic Gilgit Baltistan is , you will find in this Video .

1 . Pakistan China borders meet through GB , so No CPEC without it .

2 . Wakhan Corridor was given to Afghanistan by UK through Durand Line Agreement .

( Not in Video : Force Command Nothern Areas needs to be converted into Corps level force with 3 Star head not 2 Star thats my point of view because after few years we may also see Skirmishes along LOC part of GB with IOJnK , they made it part of Ladakh )

GB must have a full sized mountain corps. have been saying this for years. Rawalpindi corp must delegate its responsibility.

 

[Silverblaze]

I think this guy should come with a health warning. Don't watch his video or you die of boredom.
I wouldn't give him 1 second of my life. If that wouldn't prove to you that I have not watch the video, nothing would.

I have my own theory on Wakhan corridor, like the Tribal Area and Kashmir, this was used by the British as a buffer zone, otherwise it would have been part of Pakistan. I think we should take it from Afghanistan, even it means by force, we should, it is strategically important and would eliminate Afghanistan from the middle, giving us road access to the central Asian states and borders with Tajikistan.

It would also eliminate Afghanistan border with China. We should definitely go for it. We have killed Durrand Line by merging FATA in the KPK, we should get rid of this artificial division by the British , together with the problem of Kashmir.

Why not give wakhan to china? China might not like its link severed with afghanistan. Or Pakistan could convince china out of security concerns that wakhan corridor in better in Pak hands.

 

[H. Dawary]

oh...so we can trust Afghanistan "govt"?..okay...

47 refused by Afghanistan to be accepted as a sovereign nation.
50s Afghanis launch Amanaullahs loyal, faqir of ipi for pashtunistan
60s Afghan army under Zahir shah intrude Pakistan, wages war.
70s Afghanistan Commies back Baluch separatists/terorists.
80s Najib supports Al-zulfiqar that cause multiple terorist attacks
90s Pak hating Afghans flood Pakistan with narcotics and other social ailments.
00s Kirzai nurtures TTP
10s Ghani endorses PTM


right cant afford to lose the only country that we can trust .



On the topic i dont agree with invading wakhan in peacetimes however Afghanistan might soon get balkanized so we have to be prepared for eventualities..Better be there first before the enemy come sits on top of it.

Afghanistan won't be balkanised, there are Talibs, or more specifically many throughout Afghanistan who adhere to an Islamic mindset/ideology than ever before. Balkanisation can only happen if there are strong national/ideological disagreements, which was the case with Yugoslavia.

Invasions are not practical, it is better to extend your influence than it is to invade, like what Iran is doing. Their influence even extends to Yemen, Lebanon, Syria and even inside of Pakistan and Afghanistan, while it isn't the case in reverse.

This is what I foresee happening after Taliban coming back to power, making leeways into Central Asia, and even Pakistan, the same way Iran is doing at the moment.

But lets assume Pakistan does invade... what then? Pakistan can mobilise and capture Wakhan within 48 hours, but what after? Certainly the Taliban won't sit around, if anything they will start claiming KPK, and Pakistan will be sanctioned by the international community, perhaps even China. Keep in mind, Pakistan isn't Russia and do what it did in Crimea, and even in Crimea many considered themselves Russian.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I think this guy should come with a health warning. Don't watch his video or you die of boredom.
I wouldn't give him 1 second of my life. If that wouldn't prove to you that I have not watch the video, nothing would.

I have my own theory on Wakhan corridor, like the Tribal Area and Kashmir, this was used by the British as a buffer zone, otherwise it would have been part of Pakistan. I think we should take it from Afghanistan, even it means by force, we should, it is strategically important and would eliminate Afghanistan from the middle, giving us road access to the central Asian states and borders with Tajikistan.

It would also eliminate Afghanistan border with China. We should definitely go for it. We have killed Durrand Line by merging FATA in the KPK, we should get rid of this artificial division by the British , together with the problem of Kashmir.

Everyone should be rest assured, these problems would be solved by force. Otherwise mark my words, as soon as Indians get S 400 and Rafael, they will make a play for GB and Kashmir.
We lost Part of it in Siachin because we were not thinking that Indians would make a move. That was their first move for GB. That's why so much efforts in last few decades to keep that piece of land and losing thousands of soldiers to bad weather.

You guys are all wrong here. I will explain why. We finally have an ally coming in Afghanistan, why do you guys want to destroy relations with our best friend?

Wakhan is part of Pakistan and our Wakhi culture, no doubt about that, along with Kashmiris and Iranian Balochistan, our lost pieces.

Instead of thinking only about Wakhan, we should be thinking about bringing all of Afghanistan into our fold. The attraction of jobs, economy, education, medical care, and our own vibrant Pukhtoon culture is too much for Afghans to resist.

I remember that in 1999, Afghan Taliban and Pakistan were in talks to discuss some sort of merger or confederation to strengthen us both. Relations between both were at the highest point.

Then all of a sudden in 2001, US attacks Afghanistan. This is no coincidence. We were the real target. Our government backstabbed Afghan brothers, and TTP was created by US-India-Israel.

Now finally time has rectified our mistake and the totally illegitimate invasion of Afghanistan. Again Taliban are heroes, being praised by US debt of state.

Whether we like it our not, Afghanistan will merge with us wholesale. Taliban will never let Iranians break Afghanistan, and I feel fatigue of war has set in for Non-Pukhtoons who have now embraced Taliban.

Let us do the right thing and bring Afghan Taliban on board before anything.

Afghanistan won't be balkanised, there are Talibs, or more specifically many throughout Afghanistan who adhere to an Islamic mindset/ideology than ever before. Balkanisation can only happen if there are strong national/ideological disagreements, which was the case with Yugoslavia.

Invasions are not practical, it is better to extend your influence than it is to invade, like what Iran is doing. Their influence even extends to Yemen, Lebanon, Syria and even inside of Pakistan and Afghanistan, while it isn't the case in reverse.

Dear brother, hope you are well and Ramazan is going well for you.

I was going to tag you here for your input, but seems you have commented here first and posted almost the same thing I have.

Great minds think alike. I hope Pakistan and Afghanistan can embrace each other as brothers and walk to the future together. The Muslim world needs a new superpower, and we are that power, bi iznillah.

Ghazwa e Hind will not happen until all the lost pearls of Khurasaan are reunited together.

 

[H. Dawary]

You guys are all wrong here. I will explain why. We finally have an ally coming in Afghanistan, why do you guys want to destroy relations with our best friend?

Wakhan is part of Pakistan and our Wakhi culture, no doubt about that, along with Kashmiris and Iranian Balochistan, our lost pieces.

Instead of thinking only about Wakhan, we should be thinking about bringing all of Afghanistan into our fold. The attraction of jobs, economy, education, medical care, and our own vibrant Pukhtoon culture is too much for Afghans to resist.

I remember that in 1999, Afghan Taliban and Pakistan were in talks to discuss some sort of merger or confederation to strengthen us both. Relations between both were at the highest point.

Then all of a sudden in 2001, US attacks Afghanistan. This is no coincidence. We were the real target. Our government backstabbed Afghan brothers, and TTP was created by US-India-Israel.

Now finally time has rectified our mistake and the totally illegitimate invasion of Afghanistan. Again Taliban are heroes, being praised by US debt of state.

Whether we like it our not, Afghanistan will merge with us wholesale. Taliban will never let Iranians break Afghanistan, and I feel fatigue of war has set in for Non-Pukhtoons who have now embraced Taliban.

Let us do the right thing and bring Afghan Taliban on board before anything.


Dear brother, hope you are well and Ramazan is going well for you.

I was going to tag you here for your input, but seems you have commented here first and posted almost the same thing I have.

Great minds think alike. I hope Pakistan and Afghanistan can embrace each other as brothers and walk to the future together. The Muslim world needs a new superpower, and we are that power, bi iznillah.

Ghazwa e Hind will not happen until all the lost pearls of Khurasaan are reunited together.

I hope Ramadan is going well for you as well bro...

This is what I am trying to show some members here, but it takes a-lot of vision to see it... Pakistan can make leeways into Afghanistan, but through patience and perseverance, Afghans will be willing to form a confederacy with Pakistan if they believe it is the best decision for them, which is possible within the next 30 years especially if CPEC is extended into Afghanistan. The pivotal role will be due to us sharing the same religious beliefs, but the economic benefits will be the icing on the cake to convince the ones who are after money and self interests.

In the next 30 years I see big changes coming, especially one of a religious nature and I believe Pakistan will also go through this transition, and it will affect the Central Asian republics, as they over there have a desire for it, but the present regimes in charge have brutally cracked down on it.

Iran although not a friendly nation to us, is to me a model example of how we could be, but a Sunni version, they have nearly perfected their politking with their neighbors, enemies, and allies, if they had Nuclear weapons, they would be untouchable, and they have yet to invade a single nation. We too can have that, but I don't think it will be possible through invasions, unless the people of that nation desire it and at that point it would be an intervention. This is what I am asking members here to see, especially when a great example is right there in front of them (Iran).