Indian students should consider studying in China

[Shabz Nist]

@ gotterdamamung (fairandunbiased),

Are you telling us Chinese schools require "research" from undergraduate students ?

No, no research in India for "undergraduate" students ( i know only about engineering ).

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

well i could answer it ....Indian technical institutions all have Project semesters which they are ought to submit research projects as a team or as a individual...

This is encouraging, but I think I sense the difference already. Are these ongoing faculty projects, or are they restarted every year?

@ gotterdamamung (fairandunbiased),

Are you telling us Chinese schools require "research" from undergraduate students ?

No, no research in India for "undergraduate" students ( i know only about engineering ).

Yes, participation in research is required of all students. Whether there are any results or not, it doesn't matter. Just write up a thesis on what has been done and potential improvements is OK. However, getting a paper published as an undergrad does happen and it usually leads to a great job or a way to skip the graduate exam and go straight to grad school.

 

[-INDIAN-]

In Indian eyes', u r not more qualified than their master

It seems that you have a degree in trolling good attempts but i would like to see more leverage in your attempts....try harder

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

I want to learn chinese language.
can any of the chinese members suggest me a good website to learn the language?

I heard it is one of the tough languages to learn..

 

[Nomenclature]

The basis of arguement on Chinese university being much more superior than Indian universities is the ranking released by the so called master..so by your own logic you are a slave indeed...this is what i call foot in the mouth

I'm sure Chinese-Dragon can use the Shanghai Jiaotong ranking of world universities, which is every bit as reputable as the THE ranking.

 

[Shabz Nist]

well i could answer it ....Indian technical institutions all have Project semesters which they are ought to submit research projects as a team or as a individual...

I have never considered a project as a research. During my final year, we designed an acoustic refrigeration system. Does that count as research ?

 

[-INDIAN-]

This is encouraging, but I think I sense the difference already. Are these ongoing faculty projects, or are they restarted every year?

its at the end of the Engineering course well i dnt know about other streams of education i can speak as a engineering professional....at the last semester of our course we have project sem where we need to implement a project based on the knowledge acquired from the previous academic years in to a practically implementable way...

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I have never considered a project as a research. During my final year, we designed an acoustic refrigeration system. Does that count as research ?

don't think so. My personal B.S. thesis was on polymer thin film dynamics using QCR/AFM imaging. Wasn't publishable at the time I left but it should get done this year.

its at the end of the Engineering course well i dnt know about other streams of education i can speak as a engineering professional....at the last semester of our course we have project sem where we need to implement a project based on the knowledge acquired from the previous academic years in to a practically implementable way...

yeah its different than here. we are expected to join either faculty or company staff and work on their existing projects, and write a thesis. Most of the work we do is theoretical; even my classmates in electrical engineering wrote thesises about things I don't know (some new theory of signal processing I think) but they were mostly in the basic sciences, not in any specific design.

 

[-INDIAN-]

I have never considered a project as a research. During my final year, we designed an acoustic refrigeration system. Does that count as research ?

I dono what is the basis fair and unbiased is talking about research.....research according to our education system is done mostly by post graduates...those Ph.d,M.E guys am not sure about B.e though

 

[Götterdämmerung]

You can also call him/her/it "gotterdamamung" and it would still make no difference.

IP-check me, loser!

BTW, it's Götterdämmerung, a German word that is also found in English, French, Italian, Russian, Spanish literature.

 

[Shabz Nist]

In my year...

A team did a project using carbon nano tubes ( not sure what it was ).

Then there was this project where students attempted to design a new kind of helicopter.

As for me,
I and my friend designed and fabricated an acoustic refrigerator.


That's all i remember. There were numerous projects all over the place.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I dono what is the basis fair and unbiased is talking about research.....research according to our education system is done mostly by post graduates...those Ph.d,M.E guys am not sure about B.e though

Let me put it this way: if it is publishable in a scientific magazine, it is research. if you are designing a specific object, it is a project.

In my year...

A team did a project using carbon nano tubes ( not sure what it was ).

Then there was this project where students attempted to design a new kind of helicopter.

As for me,
I and my friend designed and fabricated an acoustic refrigerator.

Sounds more like projects, since these are designs of specific objects. I can't even begin to guess at the principle behind an acoustic refrigerator. I've only heard of optical cooling. Acoustics it seems would have extreme difficulty in cooling to very low temperatures.

 

[-INDIAN-]

don't think so. My personal B.S. thesis was on polymer thin film dynamics using QCR/AFM imaging. Wasn't publishable at the time I left but it should get done this year.



yeah its different than here. we are expected to join either faculty or company staff and work on their existing projects, and write a thesis. Most of the work we do is theoretical; even my classmates in electrical engineering wrote thesises about things I don't know (some new theory of signal processing I think) but they were mostly in the basic sciences, not in any specific design.

oh you are talking about the projects that are done by Institutions eh???yup we have that here too this is done with the guidance of the faculties along with the students those who have the will to join the project but its not compulsory...my friends where involved in something called supermagnet elevators I have finished my course it didnt get published when i left the college but may be out in this year or so..

 

[Shabz Nist]

Let me put it this way: if it is publishable in a scientific magazine, it is research. if you are designing a specific object, it is a project.

No. Most undergrads in India do not undertake research. I do know that there are some......in IIT's or IISc's......and some other specific institutions.

 

[-INDIAN-]

Let me put it this way: if it is publishable in a scientific magazine, it is research. if you are designing a specific object, it is a project.



Sounds more like projects, since these are designs of specific objects. I can't even begin to guess at the principle behind an acoustic refrigerator. I've only heard of optical cooling. Acoustics it seems would have extreme difficulty in cooling to very low temperatures.

ya i get it.....its there but not as compulsory....individuals can publish but most often its the universities that publish them rather than the former...