Indian Special Forces

[Abingdonboy]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR I think you've somehow got the impression that I rate the MARCOs and Garuds above the PARA (SF)- in fact I don't have any such ranking in my mind in anyway.


Wrt the PARA (SF) being used in Manipur and JK when Garuds and MARCOs haven't- this is more down to the single-service mindset that prevails amongst the top IA brass. Wherin they'd rather call in army assets that may already be in-theatre ie PARA (SF) than naval or IAF assets.
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR- MARCOs train at HAWS and CIJWS. No two ways about it.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR I think you've somehow got the impression that I rate the MARCOs and Garuds above the PARA (SF)- in fact I don't have any such ranking in my mind in anyway.


Wrt the PARA (SF) being used in Manipur and JK when Garuds and MARCOs haven't- this is more down to the single-service mindset that prevails amongst the top IA brass. Wherin they'd rather call in army assets that may already be in-theatre ie PARA (SF) than naval or IAF assets.

Bro,i respect your vast knowledge on things relating to military but i feel you are intentionally being too politically correct and diplomatic.And i say that coz i know that you are well informed about the topic from our chats on Gtalk.

Sometimes it better to be truthful mate.We are not 50 cent posters..are we?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Bro,i respect your vast knowledge on things relating to military but i feel you are intentionally being too politically correct and diplomatic.And i say that coz i know that you are well informed about the topic from our chats on Gtalk.

Sometimes it better to be truthful mate.We are not 50 cent posters..are we?

Lol, well maybe I am trying to be too balanced but honestly these are my views!


And bro- we should speak again on gchat soon- it's been far too long

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Lol, well maybe I am trying to be too balanced but honestly these are my views!


And bro- we should speak again on gchat soon- it's been far too long

Yeah..I am an ostrich till october(if you know what i mean)..From October onwards i am back as an Eagle so wont have any time.

And you my friend can be a good politician.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Yeah..I am an ostrich till october(if you know what i mean)..From October onwards i am back as an Eagle so wont have any time.

And you my friend can be a good politician.

I had to think about it for a second but I got it !!


I would become one if I didn't despise their kind!!

 

[Mercenary]

Special Forces are not suppose to have muscles. They are suppose to be quick, fast and finish the job before anyone knows.

Of course they are suppose to have muscles. They are suppose to lean, cut, built and in great physical shape.

Indian Special Forces have no muscle definition, no cuts, nothing.

Here are the American Navy Seals. Look at their Muscles and Abs. These guys are built like Tanks.

 

[Hindustani]

Of course they are suppose to have muscles. They are suppose to lean, cut, built and in great physical shape.

Indian Special Forces have no muscle definition, no cuts, nothing.

Here are the American Navy Seals. Look at their Muscles and Abs. These guys are built like Tanks.

This ain't a beauty competition son.

 

[kenyannoobie]

You clearly don't know the Indian history don't you?

Well step aside your socialist inhibitions of self-shame and go into the history before the Europeans stepped into the country.

Perhaps it will open your eyes.

You're being too simplistic and idealistic.

Yes,actually ,you're right. Some context is needed for an honest perspective so at risk of a flame war here goes:I'm well aware its not so much ethnic/national or even political but religious eg, what Tamerlane did to Hindus. He was only following precedents set by the Ghaznis,IIRC while India was more or less at peace with the world,lacking ideologies of war. Earlier ancient India,or at least the area more or less contiguous to its modern day boundaries never invaded anyone.
These same negative ideals motivating the mass murdering invaders of old are being used by new forces,the same forces who designed the Partition to keep India at bay,IMO.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Of course they are suppose to have muscles. They are suppose to lean, cut, built and in great physical shape.

Indian Special Forces have no muscle definition, no cuts, nothing.

Here are the American Navy Seals. Look at their Muscles and Abs. These guys are built like Tanks.

You know your post is as insane as if a lady comes here and says Indian SF dont have a 8 incher(you know what).

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR I think you've somehow got the impression that I rate the MARCOs and Garuds above the PARA (SF)- in fact I don't have any such ranking in my mind in anyway.


Wrt the PARA (SF) being used in Manipur and JK when Garuds and MARCOs haven't- this is more down to the single-service mindset that prevails amongst the top IA brass. Wherin they'd rather call in army assets that may already be in-theatre ie PARA (SF) than naval or IAF assets.
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR- MARCOs train at HAWS and CIJWS. No two ways about it.

Dude,i have visited HAWS many times.I know MARCOS are not there.Lets not assume things to glorify a unit.

With regard to CIJWS i better not share what Ghataks think about Garuds and other units.

 

[special]

And its really cool to assume things when the reality is that there is no permanenet seats for MARCOS in HAWS(now you wont know what that means but you would claim that MARCOS are highly trained in mountain warfare).

I wonder where else do they do their high altitude training and where are they deployed coz the only place Marcos can be found in all of troubled kashmir is Srinagar city in their boats.

HAWS is army's school. you know there is no permanent seat for army in diving school in kochi.
experience is shared with others. MARCOS, Guards are trained by these same people who train army SF. marcos are attached to army SF for counter terrorism in kashmir. they got experience from what they deployed, even army praise marcos's work in kashmir, if and ordinary army jawan can do the things better than marcos then what is the point in marcos being deployed in there? i had read many ret. army officers blog, they all said marcos give army an Unprecedented support in kashmir.

bro, you are underestimating the capability of marcos, they are the only sea-air-land capable unit in india not Army SF. yes, i'm a fan of marcos, because i heard more success stories about MARCOS than Army SF.

during india is sri lanka there are more than 2000 army SF in duty but the strength marcos was not more than 250. marcos and army SF done an excellent job in sri lanka, marcos did outstanding things there. marcos and indian army special forces are all from india.in india joining navy is more difficult than joining army. with more than 80% rejection rate how do you rate Army SF above MARCOS on comparing their skills while bot get same training. during selection process only best of the best will be selected(both in army and navy), all personals being indian how will it become army SF will be more capable than marcos? In QCB nato forces are best, that is why every countries want to learn from them, Army SF and MARCOS are also training with western forces.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

HAWS is army's school. you know there is no permanent seat for army in diving school in kochi.
experience is shared with others. MARCOS, Guards are trained by these same people who train army SF. marcos are attached to army SF for counter terrorism in kashmir. they got experience from what they deployed, even army praise marcos's work in kashmir, if and ordinary army jawan can do the things better than marcos then what is the point in marcos being deployed in there? i had read many ret. army officers blog, they all said marcos give army an Unprecedented support in kashmir.

bro, you are underestimating the capability of marcos, they are the only sea-air-land capable unit in india not Army SF. yes, i'm a fan of marcos, because i heard more success stories about MARCOS than Army SF.

during india is sri lanka there are more than 2000 army SF in duty but the strength marcos was not more than 250. marcos and army SF done an excellent job in sri lanka, marcos did outstanding things there. marcos and indian army special forces are all from india.in india joining navy is more difficult than joining army. with more than 80% rejection rate how do you rate Army SF above MARCOS on comparing their skills while bot get same training. during selection process only best of the best will be selected(both in army and navy), all personals being indian how will it become army SF will be more capable than marcos? In QCB nato forces are best, that is why every countries want to learn from them, Army SF and MARCOS are also training with western forces.

Dude,dont comment for the sake of commenting.If you dont have an idea its sometimes better to sit quiet and observe.


Army has a permanent seat in the school at kochi moreover Divers are trained in nahan too.

According to you...

Army SF doesnt have combat divers...GREAT!

Army SF is guniea pig for experiement which shed blood to share experience with Marcos and Garuds.

MARCOS and GARUDS are trained by ARMY SF...AWESOME!


Rejection rate is high in MARCOS coz a Marcos wannabe has 0 experience while a ARMY SF wannabe is a GHATAK,ex NSG or a Jawan who is the best in his Infantry unit which has seen combat.He knows what combat is and how to lay ambush,patrol and kill..Get this thing in your mind.

All of you are good in presuming things and writing big dialogue i swear....Let me make things simpler for everyone.

If MARCOS are traine in HAWS why are they not deployed in High Altitude?..Cmon dont give me the crap that they are deployed in Kashmir..Wular Lake is not an high altitude.

Marcos have never been praised by the Army for special operation...KINDLY PROVIDE A LINK AS I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING HERE TO PROVE A POINT.


And according to your logic...If i am a cricket fan and Tendulkar "shares his experience" with me then i become Tendulkar is simply mind blowing.Which means a unit which has seen actual combat and learnt from their casualties is nothing coz it is "sharing experience" with other units sitting comfortably in Andaman and Goa.

Then dude i think Marcos is even superior to SEALS coz Marcos even train with SEALS and NSG is superior to GIGN...great logic.


An Army SF operator serves from Siachin to Thar desert..From Andaman beaches to North East jungles.He spends his tenure from NSG to SG in SFF where no Garud and MArcos can ever make it except in your dreams which unfortunately are not backed up by any links or pics.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Just because Seals rule in USA doesnt mean the story is same in India.Seals are involved in operation in Afghanistan where they are deployed nowhere near the water...Marcos are never deployed away from the water.

Seal are US SFs number 1 unit for combat..ARMY SF is India's no 1 unit.You name any operation in the last 60 years where Marcos have been called first...and yeah i know you would come to this so let me inform you that in 26/11 also the GOC of the Army div was contacted for Army SF which were not present in Mumbai and then only did the GOC recommend Marcos for that operation.

Marcos do not even have 1/10 of the kills that Para SF or Ghataks have.

 

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