Indian naval fleet docks at Iran’s Bandar Abbas port

[Arminkh]

lol Kashmir isnt Pakistan, India affair its actually UN declared issue And Kashmiris r the ones who r suffering. And they are just ordinary civilians and as helpless as Palestinians.

Why is there such double standards. While u people come in our forum and proudly Share such threads boosting abt yr military connections with our enemy. Why is that?

As I mentioned, you used to be the same nation that for some reason that is beyond me, decided to become two nations. However, you didn't do a good job in splitting your territories and thus there has been a conflict over who should rule over Kashmir ever since your partition. It is not like another exterior power coming and grabbing Kashmir from you and then trying to genocide its people and substitute them with immigrants from rest of the world. The atrocities committed in Palestine is nowhere close to what is happening in Kashmir. When was the last time that either of your armies were condemned for war crimes like that of Israel?

So you see, the situations are not the same and thus different reaction from us.

How would u feel if we start doing such co-operation with lets say israel and saudia arabia close to yr ports and sea lines?

Which you did already. Who would you pick? Iran or Saudi Arabia? Well you actions says Saudi Arabia.

There is a wide belief that SA financed your atomic bomb program and in return has got some of your war heads:

Nuclear program of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And to be honest, i personally wouldn't feel bad about whichever country you like to trade with or form relations with. It is not an alliance against us so why should we mind it.

Same is here. This is an increase in two nations bilateral ties. It is not aimed towards anyone.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Islamic republic is after it own interest .and want to see growth economically in region .
in our region there problem which has destroyed stability and kept down region with terrorism and send terrorist to neighboring countries keep the region destabilizes keep way growth with its criminal acts Afghanistan and India are good example how this is been taking place .
because they cant have growth and development they want to keep region hostage and make us ( Iran Afghanistan India ) accept they way of them doing things and they want us to lift them up before they let us pass
this is when India comes in to it . we think we can cooperate closely and help our self and have the growth and development and help Afghanistan in the process

What you say makes complete sense.

The time has come for Nations in the Region to take the lead, come together and ensure stability in the region; without anybody assuming the role of Big Brother. Afghanistan has gone through immense suffering because of this.

Those who do not wish to contribute constructively, can stay out.

 

[Spectre]

What you say makes complete sense.

The time has come for Nations in the Region to take the lead, come together and ensure stability in the region; without anybody assuming the role of Big Brother. Afghanistan has gone through immense suffering because of this.

Those who do not wish to contribute constructively, can stay out.

What if they don't stay out? what if they decide to fight you for every inch you gain in Afganistan in particular?

what if chaos and state of flux serves their interests in M.E?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

What if they don't stay out? what if they decide to fight you for every inch you gain in Afganistan in particular?

what if chaos and state of flux serves their interests in M.E?

To be able to fight like that; one must be able to afford it !
The key word is affordability....... apply that now on the other thread.

 

[Spectre]

To be able to fight like that; one must be able to afford it !
The key word is affordability....... apply that now on the other thread.

Human life is cheaper in some parts than others. how much money do you need to spend on a brain washed terrorist drunk on propaganda?

Think how much loss Mumbai attacks caused, and think what their masters had to spend on their gear.

 

[Aramagedon]

Ahhh...

Sounds like no one should create a thread about India because it becomes a troll fest!
Pakistanis listen clearly. we shouldn't ask you whether we should have ties with India or not. Have you asked us whether should you have ties with 1.3 billion big China or not??? Iran has independent policies, we can't ignore India because you've problems with them in Kashmir. If you Pakistanis ignored China, US or Saudi then we'll ignore India!

PS. Iran is not the only Islamic country that has good ties with India. Most of Islamic countries have good ties with India.

PPS. our relations with India goes back to centuries ago... . (the same as our relations with you Pakistanis)

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Human life is cheaper in some parts than others. how much money do you need to spend on a brain washed terrorist drunk on propaganda?

Think how much loss Mumbai attacks caused, and think what their masters had to spend on their gear.

The System hardens itself after every setback. How much did 9/11 cost USA ?
Then the System after hardening itself, gets stronger. Affordability improves.

 

[Spectre]

The System hardens itself after every setback. How much did 9/11 cost USA ?
Then the System after hardening itself, gets stronger. Affordability improves.

USA launched a mass surveillance system costing hundred of billions, spent trillions on war and still has its interests bombed every few month outside US. They have a relatively friendly neighbors in Mexico and Canada and their whole continent is basically their back yard

Now think about India - We are not so fortunate in wealth nor neighbors

 

[Capt.Popeye]

USA launched a mass surveillance system costing hundred of billions, spent trillions on war and still has its interests bombed every few month outside US. They have a relatively friendly neighbors in Mexico and Canada and their whole continent is basically their back yard

Now think about India - We are not so fortunate in wealth nor neighbors

You are going off-topic here; so I will not reply.

 

[Spectre]

You are going off-topic here; so I will not reply.

Yeah I did, sorry about that

 

[Umair Nawaz]

As I mentioned, you used to be the same nation that for some reason that is beyond me, decided to become two nations. However, you didn't do a good job in splitting your territories and thus there has been a conflict over who should rule over Kashmir ever since your partition. It is not like another exterior power coming and grabbing Kashmir from you and then trying to genocide its people and substitute them with immigrants from rest of the world. The atrocities committed in Palestine is nowhere close to what is happening in Kashmir. When was the last time that either of your armies were condemned for war crimes like that of Israel?

So you see, the situations are not the same and thus different reaction from us.



Which you did already. Who would you pick? Iran or Saudi Arabia? Well you actions says Saudi Arabia.

There is a wide belief that SA financed your atomic bomb program and in return has got some of your war heads:

Nuclear program of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And to be honest, i personally wouldn't feel bad about whichever country you like to trade with or form relations with. It is not an alliance against us so why should we mind it.

Same is here. This is an increase in two nations bilateral ties. It is not aimed towards anyone.

WELL IT SEEMS U HAVE A RATHER LOW KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY,. Pakistan was/is the continuation of the same process on which Persian empire was expanded into south asia. We were ruling this entire region before british came and made it into a Golden Sparrow.as described by British. Even if we were part of them some 70 years ago what does that justified in Kashmir and yr support for it? UN has a proper resolution on it for God sake. This really isnt a good enough excuse. Im no history expert but @Atanz can tell u better u have a good knowledge of history.

As a Muslim what is yr ultimate goal? im not talking abt u as an irani or as a Shia but as a Muslim what is yr goal? Spread of islam or just betterment of yr individual countries or sects?

Pakistan has in the past helped iran as well for its nuclear projects as its well documented so we would have helped saudia arabia but its not a real say but is rather a conspiracy. Maybe in the past if i remain very honest we may have helped them in some way but even if we did, why hasnt they be able to build their bomb till now? It only took us some 10 years to build ours while the claims abt saudi help or us helping them are abt 80s. 30 years have been passed since then. BTW wikipedia isnt a source.

All that being said we havnt ever allowed either israel or saudia arabia to use our territory official through government support, while u have allowed indians to build roads,, rails, and invest in a port which is just 180 miles away from our port from which indians have publicly raised concerns. How would u feel if in future we allow israel/saudia arabia to do the same very very close to yr borders? U have even allowed them to open a conciliate in Zahidan which has a direct road-rail link with Quetta and through that they have been involved in subversive activities in Baluchistan. While now u have crossed all lines and have invited their navy in yr port and r going to have joint exercises.

Look now after refusing to Saudia Arabia for an alliance against iran and a country who has the largest Shia population after iran, we atleast expect u to be more mature abt a possible signs of alliance with india against us or to counter our economic projects or growth. Now after this our expectations with Iran has grown bigger.

 

[indushek]

Can some Iranian posters post some data on the vessel capabilities of Iran and those they are planning?

Surely with the sanctions lifting up there will be agreements signed for purchase of surface ships and submarines?

Please leave this India Pakistan discussions my fellow country men, don't feed the offtopic discussions.

 

[Echo_419]

PressTV-Indian warships dock at Iranian port

An Indian navy fleet has docked at the southern Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas, as the two countries work to boost friendly maritime relations.

The fleet, comprising the INS Beas (F37) and INS Betwa (F39) frigates, arrived in Bandar Abbas, the capital of Hormozgan Province, on Friday for a four-day stay.

Admiral Amir Hossein Azad, the commander of Iran’s First Naval Zone, said the Indian warship is visiting Iran to promote peace and security in the region and improve Tehran-New Delhi ties in security and economic fields.

He added that Iran and India play a leading role in regional peace and security and said, “The world now believes that Iran is the axis of stability and security in the region.”

During their stay in Iran, the Indian naval personnel on board the warships are scheduled to hold joint exercises with Iran’s Navy, hold talks with Iranian Navy commanders and local officials and visit historical and cultural sites of Hormozgan.

Long live pur friendship

 

[Echo_419]

Iran-India joint military naval exercise

تمرین مشترک نظامی ارتش ایران و هند در آبهای خلیج فارس و هند

فرمانده منطقه یکم نیروی دریایی ارتش جمهوری اسلامی ایران در بندرعباس با اشاره به ورود ناوگروه کشور هندوستان به بندرعباس از برگزاری تمرین مشترک نظامی در خلیج فارس و اقیانوس هند طی روزهای آینده خبرداد



خبرگزاری بین المللی تسنیم - تمرین مشترک نظامی ارتش ایران و هند در آبهای خلیج فارس و هند ​

Translation ?

 

[Mustang06]

WELL IT SEEMS U HAVE A RATHER LOW KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY,. Pakistan was/is the continuation of the same process on which Persian empire was expanded into south asia. We were ruling this entire region before british came and made it into a Golden Sparrow.as described by British. Even if we were part of them some 70 years ago what does that justified in Kashmir and yr support for it? UN has a proper resolution on it for God sake. This really isnt a good enough excuse. Im no history expert but @Atanz can tell u better u have a good knowledge of history.

As a Muslim what is yr ultimate goal? im not talking abt u as an irani or as a Shia but as a Muslim what is yr goal? Spread of islam or just betterment of yr individual countries or sects?

Pakistan has in the past helped iran as well for its nuclear projects as its well documented so we would have helped saudia arabia but its not a real say but is rather a conspiracy. Maybe in the past if i remain very honest we may have helped them in some way but even if we did, why hasnt they be able to build their bomb till now? It only took us some 10 years to build ours while the claims abt saudi help or us helping them are abt 80s. 30 years have been passed since then. BTW wikipedia isnt a source.

All that being said we havnt ever allowed either israel or saudia arabia to use our territory official through government support, while u have allowed indians to build roads,, rails, and invest in a port which is just 180 miles away from our port from which indians have publicly raised concerns. How would u feel if in future we allow israel/saudia arabia to do the same very very close to yr borders? U have even allowed them to open a conciliate in Zahidan which has a direct road-rail link with Quetta and through that they have been involved in subversive activities in Baluchistan. While now u have crossed all lines and have invited their navy in yr port and r going to have joint exercises.

Look now to refusing to Saudia Arabia for an alliance iran and a country who has the largest Shia population after iran, we atleast expect u to be more mature abt a possible signs of alliance with india against us or to counter our economic projects or growth. Now after this our expectations with Iran has grown bigger.

Just curious how is this port visit related to religion?