Indian naval fleet docks at Iran’s Bandar Abbas port

[Max]

Then why you and PGCC gave air port and military base to USA and Nato , they were and are our enemy .... why Iran should be the only Muslim country who care about Ummah while you sunni countries even don't recognize it as Muslim country !?

دوری و دوستی ...

u dont need to give them explanation, yes we have few among us who think Pakistan is a 16 year old girl whom 2 bad boys are trying to seduce

Btw despite political enimity of Pakistan

Since when we have political enmity with you? did any Pakistani President or Prime Minister talked against Iran ever? we supported u against Iraq,, after revolution we had many request from GCC and USA to initiate proxy war against Ayatollah Khaminaie regime.. we decline all of them..

 

[Aramagedon]

u dont need to give them explanation, yes we have few among us who think Pakistan is a 16 year old girl whom 2 bad boys are trying to seduce




Since when we have political enmity with you? did any Pakistani President or Prime Minister talked against Iran ever? we supported u against Iraq,, after revolution we had many request from GCC and USA to initiate proxy war against Ayatollah Khaminaie regime.. we decline all of them..

Your country was very weak in those times. Also before Zia Pakistan was pro Iran but after him up to now (except some exception) Pakistan is against Iran. You're friend of Saudi and US and not Iran.

@IR1907 @yavar @Daneshmand can mention many of your hostilities against Iran.

In any case, Iran and India are two independent country and they can have good ties. We're under sanctions and have faced with hostility of US. India can help us in many fields.

 

[Winchester]

Make up your mind, on one hand Pakistan is hosting enemies of Iran, on other Pakistan hosting enemies of USA. Pakistan has interests in Afghanistan, yes, but with regards to NATO war there, they couldn't have opposed world post 9/11. Especially when no countries voiced opposition to the war on Afghanistan. US and Iran aren't sworn enemies, please don't get me started.... that's far from the truth. In reality they share mutual interests in the Arab world.

There are two kinds of Indian Muslims you will find

The first kind will have a lot of love for Pakistan which is strange because Pakistan is supposed to be an enemy country but i guess religion comes first to them.

Than there is the 2nd type who will hate Pakistan with their guts even more than the hindus....This high intensity of hate is either to prove to their hindu countrymen of their loyalty to India or because in their mind Pakistan is to blame for the harassment, the rape, the murder and the shitty conditions that they live in. Its almost like they had certain expectations from Pakistan being a Muslim country in the sub-continent which we didn't meet.

Than also there are also internet hindus who claim to be muslims on internet forums.

Your country was very weak in those times. Also before Zia Pakistan was pro Iran but after him up to now (except some exception) Pakistan is against Iran. You're friend of Saudi and US and not Iran.

@IR1907 @yavar @Daneshmand can mention many of your hostilities against Iran.

In any case, Iran and India are two independent country and they can have good ties. We're under sanctions and have faced with hostility of US. India can help us in many fields.

Before Zia the Ayatullahs didn't rule Iran.

The Shah was a well respected figure here.

You just reached an agreement with the U.S on the nuclear issue plus working with them jointly in Iraq.

 

[Aramagedon]

Before Zia the Ayatullahs didn't rule Iran.

The Shah was a well respected figure here.

You just reached an agreement with the U.S on the nuclear issue plus working with them jointly in Iraq.

Stop your rants!

 

[Winchester]

Stop your rants!

Idiot go through my post again and quote the part which is a rant

Before Zia the Ayatullahs didn't rule Iran.

The Shah was a well respected figure here.

You just reached an agreement with the U.S on the nuclear issue plus working with them jointly in Iraq.

 

[Max]

Your country was very weak in those times. Also before Zia Pakistan was pro Iran but after him up to now (except some exception) Pakistan is against Iran. You're friend of Saudi and US and not Iran.

@IR1907 @yavar @Daneshmand can mention many of your hostilities against Iran.

In any case, Iran and India are two independent country and they can have good ties. We're under sanctions and have faced with hostility of US. India can help us in many fields.

lol we were fighting proxy war with soviets when we were weak.. What Zia have to do with Iran, he was not a Mullah or wahabi.. he supported u against Saddam, Indeed we are friend of Saudis and USA but that does not mean that we are yr enemy just like ur case with India.

Best of luck for Indo- Iran friendship, i and my govt have no problem with it..

 

[Aramagedon]

Idiot go through my post again and quote the part which is a rant

Ayatullah had nothing against Pakistan. Indeed Iran after revolution became more muslim, not only Shia but also Sunni. But Pakistan after Zia began its anti Iran, Shia policies which they exist up to now. Especially anti Iran policies.

@B@KH Will you clarify some of your countrymen.

 

[MilSpec]

@Arminkh
You try to improve ties with India if your neighbor muslims country is strong opponent.
You strike Isreal tyranny against Palestinian muslims and keep blind eye towards muslims of kashmir,
Why.
@Shamain @fakhre mirpur @DESERT FIGHTER @Zarvan @Icarus

reported for : off topic, flamebait

 

[The Last of us]

The 2 ships sent now are just tip of the iceberg...bigger classes like the Shivalik, Talwar, and Kolkata could/will follow.

Within the next decade, Iran is going to regain it's stature as the major military power in the Gulf, no other Middle-Eastern
country (except Israel) has the kind of scientists, commitment and determination to pursue domestic research and development as Iran does...and I think the Iranian Navy will play a huge role (maybe even the most important role) in cementing Iran's strategic reach and control over the Persian Gulf region. I believe increased cooperation with a close Blue-Water Navy like that of India's would really help. Maybe we can even support their warship developments, provide any space-based navigation/surveillance support or anything else. Case in point, I hope IrNavy will soon return the visit and come participate in exercises with InNavy's carrier group in the Arabian Sea - I think that would be a real message that Iran is ready to flex its muscles into the Arabian Sea and not be confined to the Persian Gulf.

However I'm pretty sure India will always do it's best to manage that relations with everyone in the M-E (Iran, Israel and KSA) are properly balanced so that one need not get uncomfortable due to ties with the other - this balance has been
maintained so far despite massive international pressure and will be continued & improved now that the sanctions are
over and proper trade and co-op can begin!

I am quite impressed with India's naval development. Very nice ships.
Iran is still in a developing phase in its navy. Iran is developing the 600 and 1200ton submarine for use in the Persian gulf, and is also building a 5500 training warship and in the future, we may see an attack version of it.

In the next few years we will see major development in Iranian navy. Thus far, the pace has been slow, due to budget restraints. However, as far as technical capability is concerned, Iran is not lacking in anything. We even have our own indigenous diesel engines and also, MAPNA company has the Gas turbines for powering the ships.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Unfortunately Pakistanis think Islamic countries must sacrifice all of their interests because of Kashmir.

Btw despite political enimity of Pakistan against Iran, Iran has always supported Kashmir.
Searching on Google will help.

Iran says will continue supporting Kashmiris -
thenews.com.pk

PS. I'm sure if Pakistanis were in our shoes and we were in bed with Saudis and Americans against them, they would never support our country's interests. They are our political enemy and at the same time they expect Iran to be we be their boy friend.

Pakistan has a long record of anti Iranian actions.

lol u have never supported Kashmiris or Kashmir son. Im a Kashmiri myself. Our war is for self determination under the UN resolution While in OIC when we drafted a resolution in 1994 condemning india u had blocked that in the last second even before agreeing to it! No one is gonna buy yr words of ''we will continue to support Kashmiris'' but what u do in practice will make the difference.

And BTW what interests u have with India in the first place which are above yr interests in yr neighborhood or with yr fellow Muslim country?

Remember, Pakistan also has sacrificed its interests and reputation by 1) refusing to Saudia Arabia; now u have seen saudis inviting indian military to their bases as well as UAE's pledge to invest in india 75 billion which is even greater then Chinese investment in Pakistan or UAE's investment in Pakistan. We are paying a heavy prize for this just as their Minister said!
2) by helping u in nuclear technology which has tarnished our reputation as a responsible nuke nation and has made us suspect-able in the ''Nuke spread'' cases.

These are the few sacrifices that we have just recently made which are publicly known but on the other hand u cant even help Pakistan on one conflict ie Kashmir? just because india will be angry?

Look after all this if u still believe we r not worth it and u invite their navies in yr ports and hold exercises let go of Kashmir then its yr own call. But remember Allah is watch this injustice.

 

[Hack-Hook]

lol u have never supported Kashmiris or Kashmir son. Im a Kashmiri myself. Our war is for self determination under the UN resolution While in OIC when we drafted a resolution in 1994 condemning india u had blocked that in the last second even before agreeing to it! No one is gonna buy yr words of ''we will continue to support Kashmiris'' but what u do in practice will make the difference.

And BTW what interests u have with India in the first place which are above yr interests in yr neighborhood or with yr fellow Muslim country?

Remember, Pakistan also has sacrificed its interests and reputation by !0 refusing to Saudia Arabia; now u have seen saudis inviting indian military to their bases as well as UAE's pledge to invest in india 75 billion which is even greater then Chinese investment in Pakistan or UAE's investment in Pakistan. We are paying a heavy prize for this just as their Minister said!
2) by helping u in nuclear technology which has tarnished our reputation as a responsible nuke nation and has made us suspect-able in the ''Nuke spread'' cases.

These are the few sacrifices that we have just recently made which are publicly known but on the other hand u cant even help Pakistan on one conflict ie Kashmir? just because india will be angry?

Look after all this if u still believe we r not worth it and u invite their navies in yr ports and hold exercises let go of Kashmir then its yr own call. But remember Allah is watch this injustice.

Well I guess under npt all nuclear nations must help non nuclear ones in acquiring nuclear technology. Now can you tell me which part if the npt violated by providing us a p1 centrifuge .
By the way you gave us a contaminated centrifuge that made trouble for us and was one the pilars of the case against iran in iaea.

lol u have never supported Kashmiris or Kashmir son. Im a Kashmiri myself. Our war is for self determination under the UN resolution While in OIC when we drafted a resolution in 1994 condemning india u had blocked that in the last second even before agreeing to it! No one is gonna buy yr words of ''we will continue to support Kashmiris'' but what u do in practice will make the difference.

And BTW what interests u have with India in the first place which are above yr interests in yr neighborhood or with yr fellow Muslim country?

Remember, Pakistan also has sacrificed its interests and reputation by !0 refusing to Saudia Arabia; now u have seen saudis inviting indian military to their bases as well as UAE's pledge to invest in india 75 billion which is even greater then Chinese investment in Pakistan or UAE's investment in Pakistan. We are paying a heavy prize for this just as their Minister said!
2) by helping u in nuclear technology which has tarnished our reputation as a responsible nuke nation and has made us suspect-able in the ''Nuke spread'' cases.

These are the few sacrifices that we have just recently made which are publicly known but on the other hand u cant even help Pakistan on one conflict ie Kashmir? just because india will be angry?

Look after all this if u still believe we r not worth it and u invite their navies in yr ports and hold exercises let go of Kashmir then its yr own call. But remember Allah is watch this injustice.

Well I guess under npt all nuclear nations must help non nuclear ones in acquiring nuclear technology. Now can you tell me which part if the npt violated by providing us a p1 centrifuge .
By the way you gave us a contaminated centrifuge that made trouble for us and was one the pilars of the case against iran in iaea.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Well I guess under npt all nuclear nations must help non nuclear ones in acquiring nuclear technology. Now can you tell me which part if the npt violated by providing us a p1 centrifuge .
By the way you gave us a contaminated centrifuge that made trouble for us and was one the pilars of the case against iran in iaea.


Well I guess under npt all nuclear nations must help non nuclear ones in acquiring nuclear technology. Now can you tell me which part if the npt violated by providing us a p1 centrifuge .
By the way you gave us a contaminated centrifuge that made trouble for us and was one the pilars of the case against iran in iaea.

Well we dont follow NPT as we havnt signed it NPT violation wasnt the case in our side. The nuke proliferation, its possible recovery by terrorists and radicals was thrown at us, since irani government is a radical one at least accepted in the west. They have been maligning our name ever since in that.
We lost more in that front then yr indian friends could ever do for u.

Also the tech we had at the time wasnt even a sophisticated one itself as ours was also usually borrowed from china or stolen from western countries. What we gave u was something u HAD ACCEPTED TOO in a time even none in the world was willing to help u. But at that time india had a very good infrastructure and still has, then why didnt u sought their help instead of our crappy centrifuges of 1948 design and contaminated ones?

Why it was that u came knocking at our door in the first place? u surely could have asked indians didnt u, who r yr brothers in arms?

This is the main question answer if u have GUTS!

 

[B@KH]

Before Zia the Ayatullahs didn't rule Iran.
The Shah was a well respected figure here.
You just reached an agreement with the U.S on the nuclear issue plus working with them jointly in Iraq.

It is simple, no choice for pak but to respect KING of the KINGS.

both Pak and Iran were usa allies (tattos) and respected each other and vice versa so today naturally saudi king is pak ally instead of Islamic IRAN just like monarchist IRAN was an ally of Pak earlier.

zia was brought in to counter the coming revolution and block the fallout in pak. nation was fooled by zia to distance it from Islamic Revolution.

After revolution in Pak, will support Islamic IRAN. Till then no choice but to remain with wahabi saudi.

The nuclear agreement reminds of Treaty of Hudaibeyah and Treaty of Imam Hassan a.s. and will be counted together.

Ayatullah had nothing against Pakistan. Indeed Iran after revolution became more muslim, not only Shia but also Sunni. But Pakistan after Zia began its anti Iran, Shia policies which they exist up to now. Especially anti Iran policies.

@B@KH Will you clarify some of your countrymen.

They are innocent. The nation is kept in dark about everything. one of the most ill informed Nations on earth.
News related to Islamic IRAN are unofficially banned and it is rare to hear news about IRAN in Pak media.
So they are ill informed about Islamic IRAN. One journalist told me that it is life risk to quote news fm Iran media.

They only know India is DOG. This is religion.

Not even 1% know about the defense agreement with the wahabi monarchs. it is secret in national or wahabi interests.
The day they open it up and informed people then it will be problem for generals and rulers.

the new Generation has lived under wahabis and cannot be corrected till saudi falls.
That is why Allah swt has given them nukes. they do not know Allah's secret in it.

First you convert them to Sunni or Shia, only after then they will hear the voice of Reason.

Ayatullah had nothing against Pakistan. Indeed Iran after revolution became more muslim, not only Shia but also Sunni. But Pakistan after Zia began its anti Iran, Shia policies which they exist up to now. Especially anti Iran policies.

@B@KH Will you clarify some of your countrymen.

The laughable part is that the wahabis have copied each and every tactic of Islamic IRAN.

Creating social service gangs, fighting gangs, education and other tactics.

whatever the tactic Islamic IRAN deploy they copy it and deploy.

People like late general Hameed Gul knows it well and admit in private sittings. Whatever HAmeed Gul has given to them is copy of Iran tactics but misused.

Even more than half of Kashmir songs are copy of the IRAN songs. only word like khomeini, iran, Ali are changed while even tune and music remain same in many.

 

[Fireurimagination]

C'mon guys the topic here is not Iran-Pakistan relations, India will be one of the biggest buyer of Iranian oil thus it will be win-win situation of both. Also there are tons of areas and fields where India and Iran can collaborate. Iran follows an independent and neutral foreign policy, Indo-Iran relations have nothing to do with Pakistan but everything to do with $$$s

 

[Madali]

Here is the hope for the future, where we have a strong East Asian alliance of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.