Indian Muslims Inc. Their Market & Global Business Impact

[SQ8]

the thread is about Indian Muslims..
bring in Pakistan.. and you will wear a pink dress and be happy with it.

 

[protest]

Its just funny that even when an Indian Muslim(s) defend India, Pakistanis refuse to acknowledge the truth. Haha..Even funnier the topic is about Indian Muslims.

 

[harpoon]

If that was the case, there would have been no PFI aka SIMI, isn't it? Face it, Kerala is becoming the hub of jihad courtesy loose laws against mandated conversions and covert demographic warfare, coupled with islamic votebank hungry state governments in the guise of "secularism".

If you are following the Kerala news you may be aware of the political turmoil in Kerala regarding the issue of 5th minister for Muslim League. They already have 4 and asked for one more. The CM, a Christian, & Congress categorically said that they will not allow minority community to have upperhand in the cabinet and destroy the communal harmony and it seems IUML is going back on their demand.

 

[53fd]

Despite getting statistical feedbacks on this thread you are just neglecting them, i mean what are you trying to prove here? are muslim in india lying on the roadside , begging for food and shelter in india or are they seeking an asylum in pakistan.? on that bases muslims are far batter off in india including my self too if we compare to pakistan. we have all the basic facilites for a living as every one does we don't need a speacical class for that, we own buisnesses which occupies a large part of market even at the national u can find some big names who own multilillion worth buisnesses

I've given the statistical data about the abysmal state of Indian Muslims in the other posts, while you have failed to produce any. The fact of the matter is, besides some rare exceptions/personalities, Indian Muslims as a community have become India's untouchables, even worse than Dalits.

 

[protest]

I've given the statistical data about the abysmal state of Indian Muslims in the other posts, while you have failed to produce any. The fact of the matter is, besides some rare exceptions/personalities, Indian Muslims as a community have become India's untouchables, even worse than Dalits.

You do realize you are speaking for Indian Muslims, while refuting an Indian Muslim. Do you see the contradiction? Please have some shame.

 

[53fd]

You do realize you are speaking for Indian Muslims, while refuting an Indian Muslim. Do you see the contradiction? Please have some shame.

I am not speaking for Indian Muslims, I am letting the statistics do the talking; whereas I do not know whether the other person is even a Muslim in the first place.

 

[faizahmad]

I am not speaking for Indian Muslims, I am letting the statistics do the talking; whereas I do not know whether the other person is even a Muslim in the first place.

Innala hi wa inna illahi rajioon

Do I have prove any thing more for being a muslim .............??????

 

[kak1978]

You might not have a problem with the "misconceptions" I highlighted, but mainstream India still thinks majority of Muslim parents would rather send their children to Madrassahs than to regular schools. Non-Muslim Indians generally think Muslims are averse to acclimatizing into mainstream society. They think there is no institutionalized discrimination against Muslims, or the fact that, as the Sachar Commission Report pointed out:

Compared to the Muslim majority areas, the areas inhabiting fewer Muslims had better roads, sewage and drainage and water supply facilities.

In both urban and rural areas, the proportion of Muslim households living in pucca houses is lower than the total population.

The concentration of Muslims in states lacking infrastructural facilities implies that a large proportion of the community is without access to basic services.

Benefits of entitlements meant for the backward classes are yet to reach Muslim OBCs. The condition of Muslims in general is also lower than the Hindu-OBCs who have the benefit of reservations.

Access to government schools for Muslim children is limited. There is non-availability of schools within easy reach for girls at lower levels.



Again, Presidential Order of 1950 is a contradiction to the secular constitution of India. There are many other examples of how Dharmic minorities are treated differently from non-Dharmic minorities in India.

Muslim majority areas elect Muslim representatives.

 

[Bhairava]

1) Compared to the Muslim majority areas, the areas inhabiting fewer Muslims had better roads, sewage and drainage and water supply facilities - the responsibility of the Indian state.

2) Access to government schools for Muslim children is limited. There is non-availability of schools within easy reach for girls at lower levels. - the responsibility of the Indian state

Muslim majority areas always elect Muslim MLAs, Muslim councillors, Muslim ward members and if htere are no proper roads it is the fault of the MLAs, WMs, Councillors etc. not bringing in proper amenities.

And again, Muslim majority regions in Tamil Nadu or Kerala are 10 times better than even Hindu mjority areas in Jharkhand or Chattisgarh...

so again your point being ? Any attempt at generalization of community status cutting across regional barriers is an exercise in futile and mischief mongering aimed at furthering the communal divide between Muslims and the mainstream.

The Presidential Order of 1950 discriminates against the non-Dharmic minorities. <......>

Whoa such wilful ignorance and mal-intent..I'll give you another 10 minutes to read up on the basis/grounds of reservation in India and how availing reservation by the Muslims would go against the supposed egalitarian nature of Islam.

 

[Bhairava]

North Indian Muslims have lower education levels (although there isn't a huge difference) than South Indian Muslims, they fare disproportionately worse (w.r.t education levels) than North Indian Muslims.

I think you meant North Indian Hindus and in your own confusion typed it wrongly.

First of all no...what North Indian Muslim ? Are they one homogenous sect ? No. The Bohras and Ahmedia are probably more educated and well off than most of the Hindus in North India.

The educated Muslim in Lucknow may be living better than the Hindu in Jharkhand. As I said, generalization of Muslims cutting across regional barriers is an exercise in futile.

Moreover the educated Muslim elite in North India fled to Pakistan leaving behind their poor, uneducated brethern at the hands of the uneducated Mullahs...so a lagging behind of the Muslims is generally expected and the good thing is they are coming up.

 

[53fd]

I think you meant North Indian Hindus and in your own confusion typed it wrongly.

First of all no...what North Indian Muslim ? Are they one homogenous sect ? No. The Bohras and Ahmedia are probably more educated and well off than most of the Hindus in North India.

The educated Muslim in Lucknow may be living better than the Hindu in Jharkhand. As I said, generalization of Muslims cutting across regional barriers is an exercise in futile.

Moreover the educated Muslim elite in North India fled to Pakistan leaving behind their poor, uneducated brethern at the hands of the uneducated Mullahs...so a lagging behind of the Muslims is generally expected and the good thing is they are coming up.

I meant to say "South Indian Muslims".

 

[Bhairava]

I meant to say "South Indian Muslims".

Then your statement makes absolutely no sense as the first and the second statement contradict each other.

Take some time, compose your thoughts and then hit reply.

 

[53fd]

Then your statement makes absolutely no sense as the first and the second statement contradict each other.

Take some time, compose your thoughts and then hit reply.

I guess you didn't understand my post. Let me explain it to you again. North Indian Muslims have lower education levels than South Indian Muslims, but there isn't a huge difference. However, there is a large, disproportionate amount of difference between the socioeconomic conditions of Muslims living in North India, as compared to the ones in South India.

 

[protest]

I guess you didn't understand my post. Let me explain it to you again. North Indian Muslims have lower education levels than South Indian Muslims, but there isn't a huge difference. However, there is a large, disproportionate amount of difference between the socioeconomic conditions of Muslims living in North India, as compared to the ones in South India.

Could you do the same for Hindus my dear? Indian Hindus in North again are not as well off as South Hindus even with similar education levels. I guess its same for any community. North(although growing at a rapid pace lately) is in general not as developed as South. Just because you have been to Bihar and UP, doesn't mean you can generalize entire India.

 

[harpoon]

I guess you didn't understand my post. Let me explain it to you again. North Indian Muslims have lower education levels than South Indian Muslims, but there isn't a huge difference. However, there is a large, disproportionate amount of difference between the socioeconomic conditions of Muslims living in North India, as compared to the ones in South India.

That may be the same for Hindus also. Do you know that thousands of Bengalis, UPites, Biharis & Oriyas come to Kerala in search of work as they pay is better here. I heard its the same for TN also.