Indian muslim :Javed Akhtar's Pakistan

[Sinnerman108]

That is the thing i believe.

Now "musicians" and "poets" will pass judgments on Islam and Pakistan.

A person is either Indian or a muslim.

There is no such thing as an indian muslim.

 

[LaBong]

Manas those who sided with India i dont consider their views on my country as honest.

his many points rebounds on him. would it not be better for him to work for own community's betterment and speak about their problems in India instead of hiding behind sentiments against another country

He is showering you with wisdom because he's been sought after by DAWN.

 

[Vinod2070]

These are his genuine views and he has given a good account of how Indian Muslims look at Pakistan.

Now, Pakistanis will likely not agree with him for obvious reasons. They can still listen to him and understand that Indian Muslims don't need them for support, they are happy in India, they enjoy more religious freedom than in Pakistan and are a part of a country that has a future.

If there is one takeaway for you, keep your nose tightly in your own country's affairs.

 

[Dance]

Okay good for him. The common person in Pakistan doesnt give a d**n about indian muslims or how "amazing" their lives are in india or how they are the poorest minority. Dawn needs to find better people to do shows on

 

[Vinod2070]

Manas those who sided with India i dont consider their views on my country as honest.

But you act like a hypocrite on every thread, crying about their condition in India?

Is that honest?

Just understand that they have only contempt for you when you do that.

 

[Manas]

Javed Akhtar is among few genuine secular Muslim intellectuals in the sub continent and he had long career dedicated promote Urdu/Hindustani language and poetry through films and books. Besides that he works hard to bring greater affinity between different communities of India. So he is already doing good job in that regard.

As an Urdu intellectual he knows Pakistan lot better than avg Indians and if you aren't going to take him seriously cause he is an indian citizen ,and his views aren't very palatable ,then its unfortunate . I'm sure more mature viewers of Pakistan will regard as his opinion informative and an alternative narrative than what prevails in pakistan.

 

[Leader]

and i guess you are for political islam ?

it doesnt matter. maybe I am secular inside nationalist outside, maybe Islamist inside, socialist outside !! I have not decided yet.

 

[Spring Onion]

well then why didn't pakistan abolish feudalism after partition?that means they were backed by them to some extent

its been abolished to greater extent. and few decades more it will be more than satisfactory

why didn't dring the creation of Pakistan Jinnah didn't care about employed Muslims in other parts of India?Why they were sidelined?What is the basis of creation of Pakistan if it was meant only for a fraction of rich Muslims?Why there were more Muslims in India than in Pakistan is Pakistan was created as a state for SA muslims?

Pakistan was created for all Muslims of SA indeed if those stayed back in India in a hope to get rich (which btw never happened) then it was their own choice and we did NOT sideline them.

]watch the whole interview first.It was a deliberately made clip to defame India.

there are many more examples and not made up. even the TV artists that sara of big boss and vidaee fame and her husband said the same in last independence day of India on star Plus.

why the same Deobandi sect is not creating any tensions in India?Even the name Deoband means(Devi's Forest-Durga's Forest).Is there zero possibilities that certain people who are trying to make multiple targets with one arrow are deliberately including Indian name in their misdeeds so that they can divert your resources towards a neutral target,justify your Islamic nation and control it at the same time.

1. because they never meant to create tension in India. deoband fitna was created for dividing Muslims in subcontinent

2. i dint know that deoband means Devi's Forest-Durga's Forest. if its so then interesting )) it gives more weight to ideology behind it.

3. No people are not using name of deoband deliberately but they have roots leading to deoband ideology

Your the people of TWO NATION THEORY we are not because JINNAH proposed it we didn't and that includes HINDUS and MUSLIMS are different,have a different history and culture.Now its just warming not wanting of you to promote INDIAN CULTURE in your country.You only claim URDU as yours and sideline at the same time.Aren't you being hypocritical that way?]

how we sidelined it???

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

That is the thing i believe.

Now "musicians" and "poets" will pass judgments on Islam and Pakistan.

Better a musician and a poet who spreads the message of peace and love than a follower of a general who enacted some of the most hated and bigoted laws in Pakistan.

 

[ramu]

Manas those who sided with India i dont consider their views on my country as honest.

his many points rebounds on him. would it not be better for him to work for own community's betterment and speak about their problems in India instead of hiding behind sentiments against another country

Defining bias. Its futile to argue with a person who does not consider a person on the other side let alone agree. Read

 

[Spring Onion]

But you act like a hypocrite on every thread, crying about their condition in India?

Is that honest?

Just understand that they have only contempt for you when you do that.

when you come up with false claims of equality for them in India it calls for responding. besides what law bars you from talking about Human rights in any part of the world ?? do we stop you from talking about the same in our country? whats there for hypocrisy

2. he does not represents the entire community there. if so then lets talk about many others and take their statements

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Okay good for him. The common person in Pakistan doesnt give a d**n about indian muslims or how "amazing" their lives are in india or how they are the poorest minority. Dawn needs to find better people to do shows on

Like Aasia Bibi? This might interest you then:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/98076-among-blasphemers.html#post1571177

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There is no such thing as an indian muslim.

Of course you are the best person to judge whether a person is worth being called a Muslim or not...

 

[Leader]

as described by Jinnah 'moth eaten pakistan' was given to us, the main leadership like Liaquat Ali khan A nawab himself, didnt claim his property consisting of 120 villages...that is what PAkistan movement leadership was, nawab of bhawalpur aided all his money in the early days to pay salaries of government functions... now compare this with the other side...

Daultana admitted that he didnt let the land reforms to be implimented. remember sindh and punjab had landlords and they had nothing to do with movement of PAKistan, they had long standing relations with british bureaucracy...so they joined hands against the team that created Pakistan...

@manas

 

[Spring Onion]

He is showering you with wisdom because he's been sought after by DAWN.

Dawn's interviewing him in itself a big slap on his own claims that Pakistani media dont give importance to urdu poets from India. So much so for his wisdom and above all look at his claim that Pakistan will be happy over riots in India when wisdom call of finding the causes of and main players of these riots in India not what will your rival think of it

and this is laughable that he is linking urdu to religion

 

[Spring Onion]

These are his genuine views and he has given a good account of how Indian Muslims look at Pakistan.

Now, Pakistanis will likely not agree with him for obvious reasons. They can still listen to him and understand that Indian Muslims don't need them for support, they are happy in India, they enjoy more religious freedom than in Pakistan and are a part of a country that has a future.

If there is one takeaway for you, keep your nose tightly in your own country's affairs.

Arundhati has more genuine views on Muslims and even Hindus how they look at India itself but Indians dont like her views for obvious reasons