Indian government should hang its head in shame: BBC filmmaker

[anant_s]

You need to watch it and without preconceived notions (Impossible as it may sound) and then come to a conclusion.. I feel lots of people who are over the top critical of it have not even bothered to watch it.. A small piece of advice if i may try not to see the rapists interview as the central theme of the film, It is not.. Even though the nay sayers are focusing solely on it

As much as i would want to, it looks very difficult with a ban on documentary. the best i can hope is someone with honest review. Can someone help here?

 

[Abingdonboy]

You still making the mistake to take things outside of the content of the docu and bring them in relation. But as I told you before, the content is the important part, not what people make out of it. It's not important what origin the publisher or producer has, since the content of the docu doesn't support the claim that it would degrade Indias image.

Sir, I have zero issue with the content, I 100% beleive this story needs to told BUT I am questioning the motives of such a film and why is this not a legtiamate cause for concern? Today this film is about genuine issues in India but tommrow these web of foreign funding and questionable motives can tuen their attention to something else. Is it not right to want to keep these sort of activites in check when they can clearly have a huge impact on India's image and thus interests.

 

[anant_s]

You need to watch it and without preconceived notions (Impossible as it may sound) and then come to a conclusion.. I feel lots of people who are over the top critical of it have not even bothered to watch it.. A small piece of advice if i may try not to see the rapists interview as the central theme of the film, It is not.. Even though the nay sayers are focusing solely on it

As much as i would want to, it looks very difficult with a ban on documentary. the best i can hope is someone with honest review. Can someone help here?

Banning it was the first mistake, had it not been banned, it certainly would not have achieved this publicity.

after what happened with AIB Roast and subsequent criticism, this was on expected lines (also considering it touches a very sensitive subject). The trouble with censorship in India is that viewer discretion is never taken seriously and hence this ban thing.

 

[definitelynotIndian]

this fattie should just stfu.

 

[halupridol]

banning the film made it superhit.

 

[mehul sharma]

Modhi is making bad choices . he seem like a very narrow minded person. I liked manmohhan

hahahahaha we din't like him but we like Modi

That is called 'dramatization', which is pretty much part of every documentary. Certain morons would never understand these things.

I begin to wonder if this Avanindra Pandey was also involved in that.

why is that? I think he was brutally beaten and he just barely survived that attack,he was thrown by the bus.I don't think he was involved and BBC din't make this movie for exposing the truth,they made to malign India.If you are judging a country by the mentality of a rapist and his retard lawyer than I will not say a word after this.

 

[Screambowl]

And there you have the problem, because the docu doesn't include comments of the fimmaker, it's not even narrated or moderated from her, or any foreign person. So where do these conclusions come from?

that is not the only parameter he has said. He has also included that, documentary itself is a part of this conspiracy. The documentary only tells the problem, but does not give any solution. We are not interested in knowing problem.

Telling some one through means that yes you are infected with cancer, yes you are a cancer patient, oh I have sympathy with you because you have cancer, get well soon because you have a cancer. Does not give any solution. It only spreads the message that the person has cancer. Same way this documentary gives the message.

He also said that headlines like , 'delhi rape capital', ' how India became a country of rapis' does more harm than good to Indian people.

Now, they will do more damage, if they come with a headline like ' North India cities are more prone to rape than south Indian cities' well such kind of headlines and criteria is never good. South India is India too, and it damages the image of every citizen when generalized.

 

[Dash]

If rape were to be contained by law then West wouldn't have had any rape incidents. So the question is why are we questioning govt's position on this? Whether it's stopping rape or even placing a ban on some bluddy documentary.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

this fattie should just stfu.

They like to call themselves BBW.

 

[Screambowl]

What does the documentary suggests?

A portion of Indian men are sexually starved (Mukesh admits he had sex just once before)- True.

A portion of Indian men are chauvinistic- True. The number of people who thinks girls should not be freely around is huge.

Our judicial system is slow- True

Agree partially with the Judicial system being slow..

Girl's should not be freely around that depends on the situation. If you know the situation is bad outside, then one will be fool to go outside and then blame people, when people say no don't go out side right now. Prevention is always better than cure and this case, well prevention is the only solution unfortunately.

No law, no protest can change this situation. In India, when the confusion between what to accept, westernised culture of 'free sex' or the Indian culture erupts. Sexism comes too.

sexually starved, well the 60% of India's population is young hence such cases of sexual starvation will be high. This does not mean we allow pubs and clubs to allow free sex, one night stand. No matter if some one calls me sexist, but I am against such places, where boys girls come just to ENJOY NIGHT , get drunk and chik chak.

Look at this article. The documentary does not have any words of Jyotis friend who was with her, true. Other than that, the only valid point he raises is whether the film was Life of Pie or not. What difference does it make? How does that make the documentary fake? Doesn't it contain the words of the convicts, lawyers and the parents themselves?


What are we trying to fight? Yes, this very could have been an attempt to defame India. But are they making things up? No. Are they twisting facts? No. Don't we have grown up men who are sexually starved? How effectively can a Indian man can rely on masturbation until he gets married ,mostly at the age of 25-30 years, as in our society sex is such a taboo. Combine that with poverty, irresponsibility and alcohol , I would be surprised if incidents like this don't happen.

Yes, Indian people will stand against rape anytime of the day. But what has it caused? Are the root causes of rape in India addressed? Are we ready to see a women working late at night as something usual? Are our courts fast in delivering justice? Can we say majority of our women enjoys same privileges as men? Or can we atleast say, we are in the right direction?

Yes, I am a bit pisssed off as my country is being called the rape capital,but I support this documentary as it is a smashing sledgehammer against some problems in the country-Chauvinism.

The cases will rise, because as I said 60% of India's population is young. You can never stop this, unless until values are taught in home. But what TV shows is how to get involved with a girl.

We should be careful, that 60% of India is young and requires proper grooming.

Where as 60% of West is Old, and already crossed their 35 years of age. They require less grooming. There is no comparison of what model of freedom they follow and India follows.

 

[sancho]

Sir, I have zero issue with the content, I 100% beleive this story needs to told BUT I am questioning the motives of such a film and why is this not a legtiamate cause for concern?

Which simply doesn't make any sense, because you can't accuse the filmmaker to have a specific cause, that is not shown in the docu itself!
That's the problem in the whole discussion at the moment, because the content of the docu and the story gets pushed in the background, although that is what people should talk about and that only because the government impose a ban for based on complete nonsense reasons.
The docu was made, by a rape victim, to be shown on the international women's day, is talking ONLY about this specific case and these are the legitimate causes for the docu. Do you really find anything suspicious about this?

Today this film is about genuine issues in India but tommrow these web of foreign funding and questionable motives can tuen their attention to something else. Is it not right to want to keep these sort of activites in check when they can clearly have a huge impact on India's image and thus interests.

Which again is too simplistic. You can't stop someone from expressing his / her view on a specific topic, only because you might not like it. If it is against laws ok, if it causes hate and turmoil of course and even more so if it's a one sided report based on false claims..., but all this is not the case here, nor the intention of the docu. So you can't generalize and ban any different point of view only because one of them, might fit to the mentioned cases.
It's the same with the case of the Greenpeace activist, which were stopped to fly to the UK and hold a speech, only because the government don't like it, since she doesn't do anything against the law!
India should aim on reaching a similar economic level as China, but not to be as restrictive in individual rights!

The documentary only tells the problem, but does not give any solution. We are not interested in knowing problem.

First of all, where does it state that the docu should show any solution? That's not the intention at all.
But the 2nd part is the critical one, because now you actually showing why whe have such an outrage, because we don't like to see the problem, especially if a foreigner shows it! But that is the problem, we should be interested in the problem, only then we will find ways to change things. Not because somebody showed it to us, but because we want to change this problem for our own sake!

 

[NKVD]

but not to be as restrictive in individual rights!

There Fundamental Duties Also for Citizen which he/she should Respect.Govt Made It Stand Clear Inside the court
What Intelligence Agencies Reported the MHA thats Its Not in Interest of Country.
Individual rights are not Above Countries Interest Not Mine nor Yours.

http://www.constitution.org/cons/india/p4a51a.html

 

[sancho]

There Fundamental Duties Also for Citizen which he/she should Respect.Govt

Wrong, not respect the government, but respect the constitution and the law of the land!
A government can do wrong things too (Scams under UPA) and a citizen should not just accept that, only because a specific party is currently in the government, but openly point to the mistakes and the problems, within the laws.

 

[Screambowl]

First of all, where does it state that the docu should show any solution? That's not the intention at all.
But the 2nd part is the critical one, because now you actually showing why whe have such an outrage, because we don't like to see the problem, especially if a foreigner shows it! But that is the problem, we should be interested in the problem, only then we will find ways to change things. Not because somebody showed it to us, but because we want to change this problem for our own sake!

If it does not show any solution, there is also no need to tell again and again that we have cancer. They should be more interested in their country. It is a conspiracy to change the ideology and create inferiority complex in 60% of the Indian Population which is young. Look at the population of other countries. look at germany itself , I am sure you are aware of the famous pyramid.

This means our country is like a child and requires proper grooming and hence the model of freedom cannot be compared to west who are 60% old. It is not at all required to tell this young country the problems. They are known to us. The solution is the grooming. How they are groomed.

Had they showed documentary on parents and child relation, where parents tell the children how you should behave, how you should respect the girl. If that was promoted like THIS IS PROMOTED, it would have created some effect.

 

[NKVD]

Wrong, not respect the government, but respect the constitution and the law of the land!
A government can do wrong things too (Scams under UPA) and a citizen should not just accept that, only because a specific party is currently in the government, but openly point to the mistakes and the problems, within the laws.

But Govt is Executive To Uphold the Constitution And it Granted Powers by Same Constitution To Do Whatever which is in Interest of the Country. And the Activist Was Breach of the Article 51A Clause (c) of the Constitution So Govt is Within its Rights to Do Appropriate Action As it Was Reported By Our Intel Agencies which Come under Same Constitution.