Indian education: wall of shame...

[Jaat Rock]

33% of NASA engineers are Indians.

42% of US doctors are Indians.

52% of all US billionaires are Indians.

38% of Google engineers are Indians.

41% of Apple engineers are Indians.

Ancient India invented computer chips, space travel, teleportation, gravity manipulation, plastic surgery, genetic engineering, and nuclear fusion.

India invented all religions, all philosophies, all sciences, and all knowledge.

India will be a superpower by 2020 or 2030!

This shows how much pissed off you are about Indians...
What happened?? didn't got any job or fired by an "Indian"??

 

[Viny]

There goes the demographic dividend...

Education in India: Wall of shame | The Economist

PHOTOGRAPHS of parents scaling the walls of an exam hall to pass cheat sheets to students offer the latest evidence of India’s failing school system. The examinees in Bihar, a largely rural state, were in the matriculating class, known as class ten. A good mark might be a gateway to college and a decent job in government, computing or banking. Sadly a big decline in school standards has made this far harder to achieve, at least by fair means. Hence the lengths—or heights—to which parents will go.

A recent report on education in rural India shows how far standards have slipped in the past decade. Fewer than half of pupils in class five could properly read a text written for class two pupils. Almost a fifth in class two could not recognise single-digit numbers.

An education system that favours elitism over basic schooling is in part to blame. The OECD found that the top 5% of 15-year-olds in two Indian states performed as well as average rich-country children in reading, mathematics and science. But the rest were far behind. And there are shortcomings even in higher education. Technology firms complain that graduate recruits are not up to scratch. Only a quarter with technical degrees are considered employable, according to one industry body. The pictures from Bihar will encourage employers to be still more sceptical about Indian qualifications.

Dont worry, the mobile penetration has ensured that most of the people now know the single digits.
Does an average rich country children at 15yrs knows how to write in Hindi and one additional regional language. If not OECD should prepare a new method to test the students of this 2 states.

Does the rest 75% sell pani puri and vada pav outside these technology companies?


Some people are given a hypothesis and they will write anything to make an article out of it ...

 

[gau8av]

This shows how much pissed off you are about Indians...
What happened how didn't got any job or fired by an "Indian"??

maybe a paid troll propagandist, just look at all his threads.. every single one is 'india rape, india bad, india fail'


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ontopic, it is a serious issue, education for the masses does need to be improved in a big way, that's the key to the future we all dream of.

rwnjs aside, I think we have a good administration in place to get things moving.

 

[Sneaker]

What a difference... Parents even scale walls in India to make sure their sons/daughters pass but here in US they sit on their phatass and let them drop out....

 

[Shotgunner51]

The PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) 2009 Results
Include all 36 OECD member countries and 37 partner countries.

 

[Sneaker]

The PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) 2009 Results
Include all 36 OECD member countries and 37 partner countries.

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Can't compare selected few elites. The fact that china did not allow other regions to take part but only shanghai was selected tells everything...

 

[Shotgunner51]

Can't compare selected few elites. The fact that china did not allow other regions to take part but only shanghai was selected tells everything...

As size of the two countries are bigger, in 2009, PISA selected 3 entrants from China being Shanghai, HK, Macau, and 2 entrants from india being tamil nadu, and himachal pradesh. BTW, Shanghai falls alot behind other provinces in domestic academic examination results. For more info, check:

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/
Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

India participated in 2009, absent from 2012, and may join the the up and coming is 2015.

Back to topic. There were 74 entrants and their respective sets of scores, the data were directly imported from source links. And for hate or whatever reason if you prefer results from one country not presented, just ignore that and focus on the rest 73 entrants (a mix of OECD countries and large developing countries, good for benchmarking), and see where india, subject of this discussion, is positioned in education using PISA as a reference tool.

 

[Sneaker]

As size of the two countries are bigger, in 2009, PISA selected 3 entrants from China being Shanghai, HK, Macau, and 2 entrants from india being tamil nadu, and himachal pradesh. BTW, Shanghai falls alot behind other provinces in domestic academic examination results. For more info, check:

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pisa/
Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

India participated in 2009, absent from 2012, and may join the the up and coming is 2015.

Back to topic. There were 74 entrants and their respective sets of scores, the data were directly imported from source links. And for hate or whatever reason if you prefer results from one country not presented, just ignore that and focus on the rest 73 entrants (a mix of OECD countries and large developing countries, good for benchmarking), and see where india, subject of this discussion, is positioned in education using PISA as a reference tool.

Yeah right. Why China objected to release of data for Beijing?
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com...ores-and-the-mystery-of-the-missing-children/

 

[MilSpec]

I don't need to, I'm not peeling potatoes here.

dada, your sense of humor is getting better by the day.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Yeah right. Why China objected to release of data for Beijing?
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com...ores-and-the-mystery-of-the-missing-children/

Because there isn't Beijing sample, reading capability is worrisome.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/opinion/friedman-the-shanghai-secret.html

 

[Sneaker]

Because there isn't Beijing sample, reading capability is worrisome.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/opinion/friedman-the-shanghai-secret.html

UMMM... no, PISA conducted tests in 9 provinces in China. Only Shanghai data was allowed to be published by Chinese govt.
" In an attempt to get a representative picture, tests were taken in nine provinces, including poor, middle-income and wealthier regions. The Chinese government has so far not allowed the OECD to publish the actual data."

PISA’s China Problem Continues: A Response to Schleicher, Zhang, and Tucker | Brookings Institution

Whose reading capability is worrisome now??

 

[livingdead]

I wish India invests more in primary and secondary education... but its not that bad.. the picture is misleading.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I wish India invests more in primary and secondary education... but its not that bad.. the picture is misleading.

First of all, one has to disband the state education boards, and has to adopt CBSE and ICSE as a standard, with vernacular adaptation.

 

[bobsm]

UMMM... no, PISA conducted tests in 9 provinces in China. Only Shanghai data was allowed to be published by Chinese govt.
" In an attempt to get a representative picture, tests were taken in nine provinces, including poor, middle-income and wealthier regions. The Chinese government has so far not allowed the OECD to publish the actual data."

PISA’s China Problem Continues: A Response to Schleicher, Zhang, and Tucker | Brookings Institution

Whose reading capability is worrisome now??

From Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Students from Shanghai, China, had the top scores of every category (Mathematics, Reading and Science) in PISA 2009 and 2012. In discussing these results, PISA spokesman Andreas Schleicher, Deputy Director for Education and head of the analysis division at the OECD’s directorate for education, described Shanghai as a pioneer of educational reform in which "there has been a sea change in pedagogy". Schleicher stated that Shanghai abandoned its "focus on educating a small elite, and instead worked to construct a more inclusive system. They also significantly increased teacher pay and training, reducing the emphasis on rote learning and focusing classroom activities on problem solving."[23]

Schleicher also states that PISA tests administered in rural China have produced some results approaching the OECD average: Citing further, as-yet-unpublished OECD research, Schleicher said,"We have actually done Pisa in 12 of the provinces in China. Even in some of the very poor areas you get performance close to the OECD average."[24] Schleicher says that for a developing country, China's 99.4% enrollment in primary education is "the envy of many countries". He maintains that junior secondary school participation rates in China are now 99%; and in Shanghai, not only has senior secondary school enrollment attained 98%, but admissions into higher education have achieved 80% of the relevant age group. Schleicher believes that this growth reflects quality, not just quantity, which he contends the top PISA ranking of Shanghai's secondary education confirms.[24] Schleicher believes that China has also expanded school access and has moved away from learning by rote.[25] According to Schleicher, Russia performs well in rote-based assessments, but not in PISA, whereas China does well in both rote-based and broader assessments.[24]

 

[Sneaker]

From Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yet they don't disclose the data.... for 3 years.... that says everything......