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Indian Defense Minister Signs Major Logistics Agreement With Pentagon

It's just paperwork agreement for India as USA can use Indian bases against Pak or china in case of war in near future

Actually it's the other way

Cross Posting:

That is the point.

Just like China would not want to take on India directly, US would not want to fight with China directly in SCS.

Earlier today US & India signed the LEMOA agreement to facilitate India's foray into SCS to fight China on behalf of US.

China would rather fight India through Pakistan in IOR than India backed by US in SCS.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/china-pakistan-may-counter-any-indian-disruption-to-cpec-south-asia-expert.446424/page-6#ixzz4Im6f9Vdj

"Use each other's bases" - this does not mean NATO bases. India didn't sign a logistics cooperation agreement with NATO, just the US.

India doesn't suddenly have access to Incirlik, despite a large US presence. It didn't negotiate with NATO.

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Also, access to overseas US bases is subject to both US and domestic approval, so this doesn't grant you 100% access to those either, such as Atsugi or Kadena in Japan.

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Or Naval Station Rota in Spain.

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You will still need to negotiate with the host nation, not just the US. With the US itself there are still restrictions on the use and access to certain US bases.

Groom lake will be restricted.

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You will have access to logistics and basing capabilities in others like Norfolk or Pearl Harbor or Andersen AFB.

True but US is giving green signal to its allies to sign similar agreements with India through its LEMOA agreement with India
 
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It's just paperwork agreement for India as USA can use Indian bases against Pak or china in case of war in near future

Only if both sides are willing..

More commonly exercises like red flag will be participated every year and vice versa
 
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"Use each other's bases" - this does not mean NATO bases. India didn't sign a logistics cooperation agreement with NATO, just the US.

India doesn't suddenly have access to Incirlik, despite a large US presence. It didn't negotiate with NATO.

ae1d285bd7b9c4d2d3ee7b1a1cfa4b52.jpg


Also, access to overseas US bases is subject to both US and domestic approval, so this doesn't grant you 100% access to those either, such as Atsugi or Kadena in Japan.

Atsugi_air_base_%282352837131%29.jpg


Kadena_Air_Base_20100526.jpg


Or Naval Station Rota in Spain.

Spanish_carrier_Dedalo_at_Naval_Station_Rota_1976.JPEG


You will still need to negotiate with the host nation, not just the US. With the US itself there are still restrictions on the use and access to certain US bases.

Groom lake will be restricted.

groom_lake_GROOMOVERVIEW.jpg


You will have access to logistics and basing capabilities in others like Norfolk or Pearl Harbor or Andersen AFB.

Bagram Air Base shouldn't be a problem!
 
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Last time when US got India the NSG waiver, India promised $10 billion defense deals. It was assumed to be MMRCA deal but it turned out to be the list of deals that you mentioned in your post.

This time US is keen on F-16 deal as this the only opportunity for bringing India into a fighter deal which will pave way for CISMOA & BECA agreements now and F-35 program later.

If India does not buy F-16s now, India would never buy a US fighter.

I hope India doesnt buy an US fighter. Ever.

US Fighters are good. But US government and especially its senate cannot be trusted.
 
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"Use each other's bases" - this does not mean NATO bases. India didn't sign a logistics cooperation agreement with NATO, just the US.

India doesn't suddenly have access to Incirlik, despite a large US presence. It didn't negotiate with NATO.

ae1d285bd7b9c4d2d3ee7b1a1cfa4b52.jpg


Also, access to overseas US bases is subject to both US and domestic approval, so this doesn't grant you 100% access to those either, such as Atsugi or Kadena in Japan.

Atsugi_air_base_%282352837131%29.jpg


Kadena_Air_Base_20100526.jpg


Or Naval Station Rota in Spain.

Spanish_carrier_Dedalo_at_Naval_Station_Rota_1976.JPEG


You will still need to negotiate with the host nation, not just the US. With the US itself there are still restrictions on the use and access to certain US bases.

Groom lake will be restricted.

groom_lake_GROOMOVERVIEW.jpg


You will have access to logistics and basing capabilities in others like Norfolk or Pearl Harbor or Andersen AFB.

We don't need global bases with US we just need to cooperate for operations against China

It's just paperwork agreement for India as USA can use Indian bases against Pak or china in case of war in near future
This deal needed to give reason why US forces are in India to our friends and foe. In future.
 
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IMMEDIATE RELEASE
U.S.-India Joint Statement on the visit of Minister of Defence Manohar Parrikar to the United States

Press Operations

Release No: NR-306-16
Aug. 29, 2016

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At the invitation of U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, Minister of Defence of India Manohar Parrikar made his second official visit to the United States Aug. 29-31. In addition to his official meetings at the Pentagon and joint visit to the 9/11 Memorial with Secretary Carter, Minister Parrikar also met with the leadership of the Defense Innovation Unit Experimental (DIUx) and visited U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM). He will also visit the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), and Joint Base Langley-Eustis for a tour of the Air Combat Command (ACC) and the 480th Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) Wing. In addition, he will interact with representatives of U.S. defense industry during the visit.

The defense relationship between India and the United States is based on the two countries' shared values and interests, and their abiding commitment to global peace and security. During their meeting, Minister Parrikar and Secretary Carter discussed the wealth of progress in bilateral cooperation and the deepening strategic partnership between the United States and India. The visit – their sixth interaction to date – demonstrates the importance both sides place on strengthening defense ties across many areas: from increased strategic and regional cooperation, to deepened military-to-military exchanges, to expanded collaboration on defense technology and innovation.

Minister Parrikar and Secretary Carter discussed India’s “Major Defense Partner” designation, announced during Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Washington in June. They agreed on the importance this framework will provide to facilitate innovative and advanced opportunities in defense technology and trade cooperation. To this end, the United States has agreed to elevate defense trade and technology sharing with India to a level commensurate with its closest allies and partners.

Secretary Carter welcomed India’s membership in the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) and reaffirmed U.S. support for India’s membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Secretary Carter and Minister Parrikar welcomed continued progress under the Defense Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI). They welcomed the decision at the DTTI meeting in Delhi in July to broaden its agenda by setting up five new joint working groups on: naval systems; air systems, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; chemical and biological protection; and other systems. They also noted the signing of an information exchange annex under the framework of the Aircraft Carrier Joint Working Group. Secretary Carter and Minister Parrikar also agreed to continue to their close consultation on “Make in India” proposals.

Secretary Carter and Minister Parrikar praised the discussions at the inaugural Maritime Security Dialogue held in May. They welcomed the conclusion of the bilateral ‘White Shipping’’ technical arrangement for data sharing on commercial shipping traffic. They also discussed cooperation on capabilities to augment India’s capacity for maritime domain awareness (MDA). Acknowledging India’s positive contributions to regional security and stability, including in matters beyond the maritime space, Secretary Carter and Minister Parrikar announced their agreement to further consultations in this area, including through the next Maritime Security Dialogue, which will be held later this year. They noted recent high level official exchanges including the visit to New Delhi of Gen. John Nicholson for consultations on Afghanistan, as well as by the secretary of the U.S. Navy and the secretary of the U.S. Air Force earlier this month.

Minister Parrikar and Secretary Carter welcomed the continued efforts by both countries’ militaries to deepen bilateral cooperation and expand opportunities for greater collaboration. They commended the recent completion of the naval exercise MALABAR with Japan and India’s participation in the Rim-of-the-Pacific (RIMPAC) Exercise in Hawaii, as well as the Red Flag Air Force Exercise in Alaska. They were encouraged by the increased complexity in the YUDH ABHYAS Army exercise, which is scheduled for September in India. They agreed to facilitate greater and regular interactions to deepen mutual understanding between military services and promote practical cooperation in areas of mutual interest, such as counter-terrorism, maritime security, special operations, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. They also welcomed the signing of the bilateral logistics exchange memorandum of agreement (LEMOA), which will facilitate additional opportunities for practical engagement and exchange.

Secretary Carter reiterated his appreciation for the support provided by Minister Parrikar and the Government of India that facilitated the recovery and repatriation of U.S. World War II remains in April. Minister Parrikar reinforced his commitment to this important mission and he and Secretary Carter were pleased that the U.S. Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) would return to India Nov. 1-Dec. 14 to survey additional aircraft crash locations.

Washington DC
August 29, 2016

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I'm not entirely convinced that this agreement is in our interests.
Do we have similar agreement with Russia? We certainly are using Ayni airbase so there is some sort of agreement. But have never seen them using our resources.
 
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Actually it's the other way

Cross Posting:

That is the point.

Just like China would not want to take on India directly, US would not want to fight with China directly in SCS.

Earlier today US & India signed the LEMOA agreement to facilitate India's foray into SCS to fight China on behalf of US.

China would rather fight India through Pakistan in IOR than India backed by US in SCS.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/china-pakistan-may-counter-any-indian-disruption-to-cpec-south-asia-expert.446424/page-6#ixzz4Im6f9Vdj



True but US is giving green signal to its allies to sign similar agreements with India through its LEMOA agreement with India
No , remember china will fight directly for there interests where needed and pak will where he will need,they may assist each other but china isn't like USA as she is doing for decades,either it's in world wars , USSR destruction, middle East etc
India is second in world for investing alot in defence shows intentions of India want to do in south Asia lol
 
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No , remember china will fight directly for there interests where needed and pak will where he will need,they may assist each other but china isn't like USA as she is doing for decades,either it's in world wars , USSR destruction, middle East etc
India is second in world for investing alot in defence shows intentions of India want to do in south Asia lol
Ur post are as funny as ur dp.
 
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