Indian Army preparing for limited conflict with China: US intel chief

[boris]

You call me cute, i charge you thu dolla. Chai knes nothing free, everything thu dolla onree

Did you just listen to kim jong il's I am so ronery!!!..

 

[void_0in]

Sorry mate i didnt know i hurt you that much ,just accept and admit we humiliated you big time in 1962 and move on
oh and why keep deleting your own post , you got something to hide? LOL

How do you feel when you still see AP with India ? I am sure you feel ashamed.being so called super power you still dont have balls to get it away from India.A gentle advice for you GROW PAIR OF BALLS.Posting BS on PDF is not going to scare us nor the reverse engineered junk of your arsenal.

 

[ChinaToday]

as always you don't make sense

Never expect 81 chap to understand LOL, you dont get 81 for no reason

 

[Artificial.Neural.N/Ws]

relax guys..

TOI is actually "toilet news"

 

[tombrady]

We will support our Indian asset no matter what now. China is growing too strong, they must be stopped at all cost. Indians should have the confidence of Daddy's backing and strike hard.

 

[asad71]

The crucial point is: Will China settle for a limited war or go all out - meaning nukes and all? This is not an Indo-Pak conflict scenario where both the sides are under US influence in degrees and and in various ways.

 

[seethru]

The crucial point is: Will China settle for a limited war or go all out - meaning nukes and all? This is not an Indo-Pak conflict scenario where both the sides are under US influence in degrees and and in various ways.

YES and NO

 

[ChinaToday]

We will support our Indian asset no matter what now. China is growing too strong, they must be stopped at all cost. Indians should have the confidence of Daddy's backing and strike hard.

will you protect india at all cost?

 

[indianspetsnaz]

America wants to see China and India engage in nuclear conflict as a pitiful way to keep their superpower status, India needs Modi led gov't to make peace with China because the Douchegress party will keep on going in circles diplomatically.

 

[below_freezing]

America wants to see China and India engage in nuclear conflict as a pitiful way to keep their superpower status, India needs Modi led gov't to make peace with China because the Douchegress party will keep on going in circles diplomatically.

I think Congress is using China as a distraction from India's internal problems so they can get some more black money to Switzerland.

 

[Shaurya]

I think Congress is using China as a distraction from India's internal problems so they can get some more black money to Switzerland.

First time, a troll said something no Indian would disagree with... although I doubt about the internal problems, china is facing more of it than India is

 

[indianspetsnaz]

I think Congress is using China as a distraction from India's internal problems so they can get some more black money to Switzerland.

that wouldn't surprise me, although we need a better gov't one not under Douchegress rule. Status quo should be accepted as de facto and de jure borders imo

 

[below_freezing]

First time, a troll said something no Indian would disagree with... although I doubt about the internal problems, china is facing more of it than India is

on which indicators?

in value of black money, illegal immigration (both in and out), average calorie intake, number of absolute poor, number of illiterate men below the age of 30, Engels Coefficient and other indicators of social instability, India all fares far worse than China.

The most startling fact is this: the current government shows zero willingness to improve social conditions in India.

 

[Shaurya]

on which indicators?

in value of black money, illegal immigration (both in and out), average calorie intake, number of absolute poor, number of illiterate men below the age of 30, Engels Coefficient and other indicators of social instability, India all fares far worse than China.

The most startling fact is this: the current government shows zero willingness to improve social conditions in India.

Don't shout too much, these very same problems exist in china too... add to that 1000s of revolutions happening every year to get rid of CCP ...

Protests in China: The cauldron boils | The Economist


The cauldron boils

A rise in mass action worries the party, prompting more intolerant measures
Sep 29th 2005 | BEIJING | from the print edition

THE Chinese government is getting increasingly twitchy about what officials say is a rapid growth in the number and scale of public protests. In its latest bid to quash them, this week it announced a sweeping ban on internet material that incites “illegal demonstrations”. Does China face serious instability? Probably not, for now at least. But in the longer term there are reasons to worry.

Quashing unrest has ever been a priority for the Communist Party. But over the past year or so it has put even more emphasis on tackling “mass incidents” as it calls the protests. These include a wide range of activity, from quiet sit-ins by a handful of people to all-in riots involving thousands. Almost always, they are sparked by local grievances, rather than antipathy to the party's rule. Yet China's most senior police official, Zhou Yongkang, has said that “actively preventing and properly handling” mass incidents was the main task for his Ministry of Public Security this year.

According to Mr Zhou, there were some 74,000 protests last year, involving more than 3.7m people; up from 10,000 in 1994 and 58,000 in 2003. Sun Liping, a Chinese academic, has calculated that demonstrations involving more than 100 people occurred in 337 cities and 1,955 counties in the first 10 months of last year. This amounted to between 120 and 250 such protests daily in urban areas, and 90 to 160 in villages. These figures are likely to be conservative. Chinese officials often try to cover up disturbances in their areas to avoid trouble with their superiors.


Under Mr Zhou's orders, police forces around the country this year have been merging existing anti-riot and counter-terrorist units into new “special police” tasked with responding rapidly to any mass protests that turn “highly confrontational”. Police officials say the existing units were too sluggish, too poorly trained and ill-coordinated to handle the upsurge in disturbances. The special police are to form small “assault squads” to tackle incidents involving violence or terrorism.

Only a few years ago, news of specific incidents seldom filtered out to foreign journalists. Now, thanks partly to a freer flow of information helped by the internet, by mobile telephony and, more rarely, by a slightly less constrained domestic press, hardly a week goes by without some protest coming to light. In June, thousands of people rioted in the town of Chizhou, in the eastern province of Anhui, after an altercation between a wealthy businessman and a cyclist over a minor traffic accident. In August, hundreds clashed with police in a land-related dispute that still simmers in the village of Taishi, in the southern province of Guangdong. Last month, the police in Shanghai detained dozens of people protesting against being evicted from their homes.

In some ways, this unrest makes China look a lot more like a normal developing country than the rigidly controlled system it was until the early 1990s. It is becoming increasingly common to encounter small-scale protests in Chinese cities that only a few years ago would have horrified order-obsessed cadres. An apartment block near your correspondent's home in Beijing has for weeks been scrawled with slogans protesting against the adjacent construction of a petrol station. “We want human rights,” says one. Residents say the police have not interfered, save to warn them not to protest during a big political gathering in the city.

Chinese officials often say that greater social unrest is normal in developing countries with a per capita GDP between $1,000 and $3,000. China's GDP per head surpassed $1,000 in 2003. But this appears to be little consolation. In August last year, President Hu Jintao appointed a high-level team, headed by Mr Zhou, to supervise the handling of protests and petitions. Official sources say Mr Hu dwelt on protests in a speech to party leaders in September 2004 and at the party's annual economic planning meeting in December. Late last year the party issued a document to senior officials telling them how to deal with unrest.

According to these sources, Mr Zhou's speeches are laced with warnings that political dissidents might try to manipulate local protests to put pressure on the party itself. This fear explains why the party has further squeezed non-governmental groups and dissidents in recent months. China Development Brief, a newsletter on Chinese civil society developments, reported that in recent weeks China's secret police had been interviewing staff of Chinese NGOs that receive foreign funding, as well as Chinese staff of foreign NGOs in China, about the purpose of their work. The government has suspended the registration of new international NGOs pending the outcome of these inquiries.

The party's dilemma is that much of the unrest is a product of the rapid economic growth that it is so keen to maintain. The outlook of many urban Chinese has changed profoundly since the 1990s as a result of the privatisation of hitherto heavily state-subsidised housing. Anxious to protect their new assets, property owners have increasingly clashed with developers, and their government backers, who have been trying to cash in on the resulting boom by erecting shopping malls and luxury housing. The expansion of cities has fuelled clashes with peasants whose land is needed for construction.

Some argue that these mostly isolated protests, if handled sensitively, could help China maintain overall stability by providing people with a way of venting frustrations. But Mao Shoulong, at Renmin University of China in Beijing, says the unrest is a sign that China lacks channels for people to air discontent in a more orderly fashion. Widespread corruption and an increasingly conspicuous wealth gap fuel a contempt for officialdom that can easily erupt into the kind of class-based rioting that occurred in Anhui in June.

And should the economy falter, urban China could be faced with the twin dangers of an angry middle class saddled with big mortgage commitments and declining property prices (a problem China has not yet had to face), as well as a big increase in the number of unemployed, who, along with unpaid pensioners, are the main participants in protests in those parts of the country left behind by the current boom. Widespread middle-class discontent, combined with blue-collar dissatisfaction, would be a much bigger threat to stability than China now faces.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Protests in China: The cauldron boils | The Economist

The cauldron boils

A rise in mass action worries the party, prompting more intolerant measures

Sep 29th 2005 | BEIJING | from the print edition

THE Chinese government is getting increasingly twitchy about what officials say is a rapid growth in the number and scale of public protests.

LOL, did you notice the article is from 2005?