I don't prefer confrontations, but this is the most delusional post i have seen in 2019.
Pakistan has not really been going "Gaga", not the Government or the Military at least. The Government is handling its affairs where as the Military has geared up already for a possible Indian strike or retaliation, probably a sucker punch. Do you know why its just a confrontation and not a war ? Because Pakistan kept it that way responsibly. had Pakistan wanted, it would have been an all out war. The irresponsible behavior of India was an all intent to not just escalate but push Pakistan into a trap of an all out war and then decimate it conventionally since Pakistan is getting stronger with every passing day. If India claims of a kill on Pakistani soldier, Pakistan also retaliates and makes a kill. Its a tit for tat but even after igniting the LOC and killing civilians, India is not succeeding in weakening Pakistan. I can sense the stench of a burn in your words, in your sentences, the way you portrayed your thoughts. Its alright Mate, Pakistan is not Palestine and India is no Israel. You are under no capacity to point out whether there is a victory or not, whether its a moral victory or not. Let me assure you that scared, panicked and frightened nations behave in a very different way than how Pakistan reacted. Its your own blindness that you see a gesture of good will of returning a POW as an act of fright. Maybe that's your take of fear, in Pakistan we call it kindness and act of friendship.
Its ironic that India's tough stand, threatening and dictating Pakistan only bore fruit in securing an immediate release of pilot who Pakistan treated as a guest and respectfully from Day One; not the release of spy Yadav, not the shut down of so called alleged launching pads, not the closure of river and seas shared by both countries etc. So according to you Pakistan became intimidated and then obliged on releasing the pilot. Maybe you should step down from cloud number nine and wake up. The pilot was handed back as Pakistan didn't want to escalate the conflict but end it, however, delusional as Indian war mongering is, a good gesture was taken by India as a slap on the face by Pakistan. Sorry to disappoint you, but yes Pakistan behaved smartly and showed that it has a bigger heart than India could ever have. India wanted war and got a kind gesture in return, the world acknowledged it, i won't bother to copy paste links, do go through neutral media and news channels.
If you visit Pakistan and introduce yourself as an Indian, you will experience it too. Not just a cup of tea and free passage home, but also free stay and free food, not by the Military but a common Pakistani, we as a nation are that hospitable. Why don't you come and find out before you allege us of cowardice.
India lost a helicopter, an economic loss ? Pity, you calculate the lost lives of your soldiers as an economic loss. For me, its a tragic loss of life, getting shot down by your forces is also showing incompetence of the highest level. May i remind you that the words you used for Pakistan wrongly before, like scared, fright etc can be fitted correctly here, Panic is the correct one. Shooting down own plane in Panic, its a loss after all.
As for the Mig-21, I can imagine why its easy for you say its not a big deal. Flying coffins fall everyday in India right ? No big deal, truly ! This one fell inside Pakistan, why bother. Indian Mig-21's are allowed to fall here and there, that's why IAF flies them. A jet in the process of being phased out, armed with best missile and electronics, once touted to be be better than PAF F-16's... is sent to take on adversary aircraft and the loss is accepted as phasing out strategy, truly amazing, anyways moving ahead.
The poor guy Abhinandan had no idea what he was doing or what was going to happen to him on that fateful day, but it did change the course of the situation and made IAF a laughing stock in front of the whole world. It forced Indian Navy into action which was humiliated just like IAF and its sub was sent back scurrying back to India. So its a series of humiliating events, the Indian Army was getting thrashed on LOC all year long, IAF released payload on trees and backed off avoiding actual combat, when the actual combat was enforced on them by PAF, then the IAF pilot got shot down,in panic IA/IAF shot down own helicopter, then the IN sub was detected and told to go back. If indeed there was a military tri-services mocku-mentary to be made, the premise has been written by IA/IAF/IN together.
Are you really trying that hard to define victory again ? if this happened, If that happened. Get real Mate, what has happened as happened. IA/IAF/IN got humiliated and the India Tri Services Command knows it. IAF Pilot error was forced by PAF, but what about the command and control error? Why didn't you IAF send a squadron across? Remember the words you wrote above, fright, panic etc, yes that seems to be the atmosphere in IAF command center.
Its just you coming online to pacify yourself by giving different definitions of victor after every couple of sentences. Good that you acknowledged that crossing LOC is suicide, IAF proved you correct by crossing LOC. PAF showed you otherwise.
Yes there was a confrontation, the outcome was Pakistan losing a few trees where as india losing plane, losing helicopter, losing troops, submarine getting detected. India Government has been violent in statements trying to hide the shame of losses, but its not working out that well. Indian media has been instrumental in igniting own people, but whats the use of that. As for invading Pakistan again, the submarine did show reckless action, poor thing got detected. Now being brave and being reckless/irresponsible are two very different things. IAF recklessly killed a few trees and then stupidly crossed LOC, Pakistan reacted responsibly without initiating war, took down Abhinandan and handed him back. Pakistan might not initiate the war, but it can defend itself. PAF has the guts to cross LOC, and it did.
Im surprised to know that you acknowledge that India has been bullied by Pakistan thoroughly many times in the past. Its amazing to know that such a small country has the capacity to strike fear in the heart of its rival. To think that Pakistan has gone on the defensive means that you have fallen into the trap of delusion. Had Pakistan been on the defensive, Pakistan would never have crossed LOC into Indian air space and flew towards Indian Bde HQ, dropped bombs at a safe location without creating collateral loss and exited safely. Its further delusional on your part to think that Pakistan will approach super powers for a ceasefire, i suggest you wake up and look at the inventories of nuclear weapons of both countries which will make a difference always in a war.
Pakistan made the announcement of an incident of intrusion and bombing because it actually happened this time, unlike last time, where a Bollywood stunt of SF Ops took place in dreams of Indian GHQ and was presented as a reality show infront of the world while no way near to the reality. While Indians succumbs to Indian media's rhetoric, Pakistan doesn't mislead and this a prime example of that. Abhinandan made the mistake of his life by crossing LOC and has now paid the price dearly, bringing shame to IAF and India. If getting hit by enemy earns medals, then IAF certainly outshines all air forces.
Since you mentioned that this time Indians actually crossed the LOC, means you also know that the last venture by IA SF was a lie - glad you agreed. PAF showed that intrusion into LOC will create trouble for IAF, so crossing LOC only brought losses for IAF. If Indian military intents to intrude again, it will meet with the same fate: Losses-Prisoners- Deaths. It now seems that Indian Military is willing to sacrifice its personnel and increase losses to gain absolutely nothing except than inflated ego of politicians. The worth of a soldiers life is so measly in Indian Military that Politicians aim to gain from it, then by all means, keep losing the war of attrition through failure in operational planning.
Pakistan is never scared of a full fledged war; if such was a premise then PAF jets wouldn't have crossed into India and Pakistan would have laid low and ignored or covered the incident, infact never accepted that IAF bombed trees inside Pakistan. See, now this is where your delusional thinking has taken you and proved that you are completely illogical. Pakistan knew that by sending Pakistan was taking a risk of a fledged war but the Bully India needed to be taught that you cannot mess with Pakistan. So PAF jets intruded into Indian air space and the rest is history. India and IAF were shocked to the core, they were not anticipating a strike in broad daylight (check out the confidence and courage of PAF aviators) and make it back safely. India could have started a full fledged war on this premise, but wait, India couldn't, guilty as charged. Shocked to the bone, stunned and speechless, Indian Military just watched as its own aircraft and helicopter were shot down. With a 1.1 million standing army, an Airforce and a Navy bigger than its arch rival, India couldn't do anything but stand and watch in awe and disbelief. Slapped on the face by an Air Force much smaller in strength with light and medium aircrafts, all IAF could do was to show wreckage of a missile while claiming to have downed an F-16, which can never be proved.
This is what India media does to minds of Indian military - The military forgets that it has trained personnel and weapons to fight a war. IAF couldnt win a war in the skies so IAF top brass started a war on media hoping to win it, but failing miserably to prove anything, infact becoming a laughing stock of the world by holding the tail of AMRAAM infront of international audience. Somebody needs to tell them that let the Media fight its own war. Commandeering the cameras is not going to win wars for IAF. The pilots have to actually sit in planes and fly them to win war against PAF. The prowess of PAF forced Indian Military to stand infront of Cameras to fight a war with Pakistan and you are shouting "victory" all over your post, really? Victory by standing infront of the cameras, yeah buddy, sure thats the Bollywood style of victory, always infront of Camera, following a script.
Its a dream of India and enemies of Pakistan that the economy of Pakistan drains and it becomes pennyless. How many years has it been since independence ? 72 ? The Pakistan nation has survived its worst. The past 15 years have been the worst, billions and billions of damage, loans, corruption and what not. But Pakistan is still standing strong and it will keep standing strong. The damages have surely taken place but timely investment through Chinese and other nations has not only come but is also coming, its on the way. There are many countries which are willingly showing interest in CPEC and other avenues of investment into Pakistan are opening up. Chinese have been allocated certain zones and they have been allowed businesses in those zones, similarly KSA has been allocated areas of interest for investment. Its an Indian dream that somehow Chinese come and ruin Pakistan completely, unfortunately, that dream of India will never materialize. Indians have hoped on every step that Pakistan dis-integrates into tiny pieces and collapses. Its not just your desire in 2019, many before you have desired the same for Pakistan, but with every passing day Pakistan stands strong, its military flourishes, its revenue grow, its population increases, its production increases, Pakistan brings more countries closer to it and makes new partnerships and builds new relationships. Russia, Turkey, China are few solid examples. Most importantly, two of these countries are super powers.
Its not just today that LOC is witnessing constant firings and use of ammunition. If firing and expending ammunition was becoming so expensive for Pakistan then why doesn't the firing stop, no one waits for the last bullet. India knows that Pakistan's COD's (Central Ordnance Depots) are scattered all over Pakistan; in major cities, in suburban areas, in military cantonment's, inside bomb proof mountains. If 1000 bullets are expended everyday, the next day 10,000 arrive while POF keeps churning them out. Pakistan has devised sniper tactics and GPS guided mortars for accurate use of ammunition, not just to expend it but also to make kills. causalities are occurring on both sides of LOC, Pakistan has increased intake of officers/soldiers and raised new formations to balance the strategic shift. Pakistan has actually defined the warfare policy on LOC by shifting ts strategy to cover ots weak points impeccably and forced Indian Military to dictate to its terms.
The most beautiful and admirable methodology of Pakistan is that whatever India throws at it, Pakistan adapts and not only survives but also progresses.
Your post will only give you temporary relief, a false sense of victory, fallacious excitement, temporary relief from burns and spurious sense of satisfaction, nothing more. Stay delusional and keep yourself in a happy state of mind by watching Indian media and Bollywood - On Ground Reality is something you cannot face !
). This has been confirmed to me. I remain convinced of the same. Now this, my first post here regarding my being convinced about it, was met with a resolute 'no F-16 was used'. So .. no surprises.
