Indian Army Falsified Kargil Battle Records

[Nirvana]

The peaks are in a very strategic part of the LOC they allow a panoramic view to the observation posts. We could literally destroy any traffic on that road.

But Could Pakistan had Sustained a Bigger war ?

Nawaz Sharif Disclosed After Ceasefire "Pakistan was left with just six days of fuel to sustain itself if a full-fledged war had broken out"

and In today's time Pakistan cannot Afford a war against India Considering "Sweet Chin Music " they are facing on Western Border

 

[Windjammer]

Hmm I can understand that you guys were winning Kargil just like you were winning 1965 war. You guys don't believe in anything until you feel a taste of complete surrender like 1971 war which you guys were winning just like 1971 war till 17th December 1971.

Since you are constantly keen to merry go around back to 1971.....unrelated to discussion....let me ask you, did a boat sailing up to the India gate gave you a wake up call or no. !!

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Since you are constantly keen to merry go around back to 1971.....unrelated to discussion....let me ask you, did a boat sailing up to the India gate gave you a wake up call or no. !!

Its not 1971 but the way your government keep you in dark. First they denied PA involvement. And I am mentioning 1971 not for defeat but the false pride being winning shown among Pakistanis. Like this newspaper cutting where Pakistanis where made to believe they were winning the war till 17 December 1971. Same is 100% true for Kargil.
The creation of Bangladesh and the role of Pakistani media*|*LUBP

 

[Secur]

There is very detailed debunking of the importance of the peaks that Pakistan still maintains under its control. The peak which has a direct line of sight of NH1 is well within LoC on the Pak side and is flanked by two other peaks connected by a ridge. Those two peaks are on the Indian side of the LoC and are under IA control. It is quite clear that any signs of trouble mongering by Pak army would be effectively dealt with. And thats why IA didnt think it was important to 'recapture' those peaks.
Ones in the know would know the reality of the situation on the ground there, no?

The Indian Army, which made several unsuccessful attempts to occupy the post after the Kargil war, has since given up the post as “untenable” given the geography of the region that makes it fairly easy for Pakistani troops to climb.

Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express

Indian soldiers had attempted to capture Point 5353, a strategically-important peak in the Dras sector, in the first days of the Kargil war. New evidence that such an assault took place blows apart contradictory claims by the former Defence Minister, George Fernandes, and top military officials that the feature does not lie on the Indian side of the Line of Control.

Tehelka - The People's Paper


Why are you soldiers after a useless post then ... Leave it and move on ...

And the best part is that Pak troops can easily watch all the operation vijay "success" celebrations at the Indian created war memorials from the top of this peak with a peculiar smile on their faces. That is the coolest part.

 

[Rafi]

The Indian Army, which made several unsuccessful attempts to occupy the post after the Kargil war, has since given up the post as “untenable” given the geography of the region that makes it fairly easy for Pakistani troops to climb.

Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express

Indian soldiers had attempted to capture Point 5353, a strategically-important peak in the Dras sector, in the first days of the Kargil war. New evidence that such an assault took place blows apart contradictory claims by the former Defence Minister, George Fernandes, and top military officials that the feature does not lie on the Indian side of the Line of Control.

Tehelka - The People's Paper


Why are you soldiers after a useless post then ... Leave it and move on ...

Och that gotta hurt the indians = we control the peaks - and we can close down the vital national highway at our time of choosing.

 

[Nirvana]

Och that gotta hurt the indians = we control the peaks - and we can close down the vital national highway at our time of choosing.

What's Stopping Pakistan doing that then ? The Traffic on Highway is Running fine

Is it 'Sweet Chin Music' your Army is facing on Afghan Border ?

 

[gubbi]

The Indian Army, which made several unsuccessful attempts to occupy the post after the Kargil war, has since given up the post as “untenable” given the geography of the region that makes it fairly easy for Pakistani troops to climb.

Near Tiger Hill, Point 5353 still Pak-occupied - Indian Express

Indian soldiers had attempted to capture Point 5353, a strategically-important peak in the Dras sector, in the first days of the Kargil war. New evidence that such an assault took place blows apart contradictory claims by the former Defence Minister, George Fernandes, and top military officials that the feature does not lie on the Indian side of the Line of Control.

Tehelka - The People's Paper


Why are you soldiers after a useless post then ... Leave it and move on ...

That peak was never under Indian control. Its either in P-0-K territory or bang on the LoC. In the fog of war, attempts were made to dislodge the intruders and Pak army regulars from the said peak. But the geographical advantage was/is on Pak's side. Hence it was decided that the peak was not worth it. Some other time.....
Counter measures are in place, rest assured, and any misadventures would be dealt with.

 

[RazPaK]

Och that gotta hurt the indians = we control the peaks - and we can close down the vital national highway at our time of choosing.

That's why they are obsessed with guarding the border today. We have a tactical advantage in any future conflict, leaving the IA with sleepless nights.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Och that gotta hurt the indians = we control the peaks - and we can close down the vital national highway at our time of choosing.

Please stop the road, we are dying for your such actions.

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That's why they are obsessed with guarding the border today. We have a tactical advantage in any future conflict, leaving the IA with sleepless nights.

just like Siachin.

 

[Secur]

That peak was never under Indian control. Its either in P-0-K territory or bang on the LoC. In the fog of war, attempts were made to dislodge the intruders and Pak army regulars from the said peak. But the geographical advantage was/is on Pak's side. Hence it was decided that the peak was not worth it. Some other time.....
Counter measures are in place, rest assured, and any misadventures would be dealt with.

Sources indicate otherwise

PAKISTAN soldiers atop Peak 5353 metres on the strategic Marpo La ridge would have had a grandstand view of Vijay Diwas celebrations, marking the official end of the Kargil war. At least some of them must have had wry smiles on their faces watching the J uly 26 spectacle. For although Peak 5353 metres is well inside the Indian side of the Line of Control (LoC), Pakistani troops held the mountain through the Kargil war - and continue to do so today. From the peak, observers on Peak 5353 can direct accurat e artillery fire on to up to 20 km of National Highway 1A, and cripple Indian defensive positions from Mushkoh to Bhimbet. On August 11, Army headquarters claimed that Point 5353 was placed right on LoC, not on the Indian side. This asser tion stands exposed by the Army's own one-inch maps, in Frontline's possession. The same day, Union Defence Minister George Fernandes followed up this piece of prevarication with his own, claiming when asked about Point 5353 at a press conference in Bangalore that "India is owning the land". "Every inch of the land is under our control," he insisted. The panic is not surprising.

Put simply, the Pakistan occupation of Point 5353 means that Operation Vijay's core objective in Drass of securing the highway, had failed.


By hiding the ground positions in Drass from the Indian public, the Bharatiya Janata Party-led Union government and the Army leadership succeeded in securing a public relations victory on Kargil. But its first-round of cover-up on Drass has forced it to resort to another such round. Contrary to official claims that all is well in Kargil, there have been a series of exchanges of small arms fire centred on 5353, spilling into the Mushkoh Valley. On at least one occasion this summer, the fire almost escala ted into full-blown artillery exchanges. The worst of the fighting has come in the Batalik area, east of Kargil, where Indian troops have been ordered to take any unoccupied positions they discover on the Pakistan side of the LoC, a move designed to brin g about a deal on Point 5353.

KARGIL QUESTIONS

 

[Windjammer]

Its not 1971 but the way your government keep you in dark. First they denied PA involvement. And I am mentioning 1971 not for defeat but the false pride being winning shown among Pakistanis. Like this newspaper cutting where Pakistanis where made to believe they were winning the war till 17 December 1971. Same is 100% true for Kargil.
The creation of Bangladesh and the role of Pakistani media*|*LUBP

And unless you missed the OP, you even in modern day are living in a fools paradise.....unlike your newspaper cuttings, i can post you several links initially glorified as victories by IA.......turn out to be fake encounters.....so give it a rest and stick to the topic.

 

[Secur]

just like Siachin.

Please enlighten us with the strategic importance of Siachin , Can IA troops come down and attack us ? Siachin is a logistical nightmare for your country which spends over $ 1 million / day to maintain a useless presence ... Heck , its hard for them to even survive the winter let alone attack any FCNA positions along the LOC ...
They are occupying it just because they went there first and cant risk their reputation by abandoning it and not because there's any benefit in it ...

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Please enlighten us with the strategic importance of Siachin , Can IA troops come down and attack us ? Siachin is a logistical nightmare for your country which spends over $ 1 million / day to maintain a useless presence ... Heck , its hard for them to even survive the winter let alone attack any FCNA positions along the LOC ...
They are occupying it just because they went there first and cant risk their reputation by abandoning it and not because there's any benefit in it ...

Same with your troops.

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And unless you missed the OP, you even in modern day are living in a fools paradise.....unlike your newspaper cuttings, i can post you several links initially glorified as victories by IA.......turn out to be fake encounters.....so give it a rest and stick to the topic.

We are not discussing about Fake encounters or anythings that's too happen in your country also. But the fact is will you really trust in your government's figure of 453 Pakistani troops dead when they initially disowned troops as PA personals of NLI.

 

[Secur]

Same with your troops.

Facts are different , feel free to google ... We occupy the areas west of Saltoro ridge easily accessible from our base ... We dont have to airlift anything ...

 

[joekrish]

The truth is the peaks belongs to us as of today.

Game over.
If I got it right in hindi it goes some thing like this
Jho jeeta woh sikandar.