Indian Air Force News & Discussions

[indopak]

 

[Abingdonboy]

IAF Mig-29UPG finally in IAF colours!! Is this in India or Russia as ACM already said some were in India but it doesn't look like the TOPSOGHT has been integrated yet so assume this is taken in Russia.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

IAF Mig-29UPG finally in IAF colours!! Is this in India or Russia as ACM already said some were in India but it doesn't look like the TOPSOGHT has been integrated yet so assume this is taken in Russia.

True,but the SMT looks FuglY!

 

[Indian-Devil]

True,but the SMT looks FuglY!

Yes, Thats because internal fuel capacity has been increased.

 

[Abingdonboy]

True,but the SMT looks FuglY!

True this UPG has wrecked its infamous looks- but still it's purpose is a WAR MACHINE and its ability to fight hard has been increased by this UPG so I don't care!

 

[Black Widow]

Indians please stop begging Russia USA Israel etc and SPEND ur precious money on poor public and their rehabilitation rather then killing babies in Kashmir.

When you woke up from Hibernation????

What bout New name??? MiG29 Hunchback...

 

[sancho]

IAF Mig-29UPG finally in IAF colours!! Is this in India or Russia as ACM already said some were in India but it doesn't look like the TOPSOGHT has been integrated yet so assume this is taken in Russia.

I guess in Russia and Topsight is not fully confirmed so far, because there were also reports about a Russian HMS, we will have to wait till they are back in India and IAF service to see what the final version will be.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I guess in Russia and Topsight is not fully confirmed so far, because there were also reports about a Russian HMS, we will have to wait till they are back in India and IAF service to see what the final version will be.

I'm pretty sure TOPSIGHT has been confirmed especially as it is the standard helmet for IN Mig-29k/kub in service currently and will also be integrated on Mirage-2000-5/9, LCA (a HMDS is already integrated but I'm not sure if it is DASH or TOPSIGHT) and possibly the "SUPER"-30MKI (likely to be a more advanced HMDS given timeline and class of fighter).

But we have no idea when this phot was taken or what staff the UPG is at so, as you said, we can only wait and see.

 

[perplexed]

Folks ! Any news on AMCA. any specifications about it eg heat signature, how much of a 5th gen will it be etc ?

 

[Night_Raven]

IAF AN-32 Transport Fleet after upgrades in Gostomel Airport , Ukraine :

 

[RPK]

JOINT DEVELOPMENT OF FIFTH GENERATIONFIGHTER AIRCRAFT WITH RUSSIA

A Preliminary Design (PD) contract has been signed between HAL and Rosoboronexport, Russia on 21st December, 2010 for implementation of design & development of Prospective Multi-role Fighter (PMF) Aircraft programme by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) jointly with Sukhoi Design Bureau (SDB) of Russia at a cost of 295 million USD. The duration of the PD Phase is 18 months. Full scale Design & Development work will be taken up under a separate contract, which will be negotiated and signed towards the end of the PD Phase. Presently, a requirement of around 250 Fighter Jets with induction in Indian Air Force from 2018 onwards is envisaged. This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Shri MM Pallam Raju in written reply to Shri M.V. Mysura Reddy in Rajya Sabha today.

PURCHASE OF C-17 GLOBEMASTER TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT

There is presently no proposal for procurement of additional C-17 Globemaster III aircraft for the Indian Air Force. This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in written reply to Shri Shyamal Chakraborty in Rajya Sabha today.

 

[RPK]

India to build its own stealth fighter jet - India News - IBNLive

New Delhi: India is getting ready to add another fighter aircraft to its fleet with the DRDO working on an Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft.

In a little over a decade from now the Indian Air Force will be needing replacements for its MiG-29, Mirage and Jaguar fighters. The DRDO through its Bangalore based Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) will unveil the design for that replacement to the air force brass next year, an indigenous design for a stealth aircraft

Director General VK Saraswat DRDO said, "Our requirement is to look for a fighter aircraft which will be required after 2025 and that aircraft should have all capabilities in terms of agility, maneuverability, load carrying capacity, low radar cross-section, super cruise."

The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft could be in the 20 tonne range and composite materials will comprise much of its structure. Weapons will be carried in internal concealed bays and It will be powered by two “Kaveri” engines.

“It will be powered by our modified ‘Kaveri’ engine. It will have additional features in terms of better fuel consumption, thrust vectoring, serpentine intakes and also some of the technologies critical for high fuel efficient and high turbine temperatures,” said Saraswat.

Originally the Kaveri was to power the Light Combat Aircraft ‘Tejas’ but is yet to develop the required thrust forcing the authorities to opt for the GE414 engine. Given that experience, the DRDO through the ADA plans to collaborate with a foreign engine manufacturer to speed up the development and testing work.

 

[Archie]

I have a question
Who actually edits wikipedia , specially defence related info

Is there any qualification or other critaria , or is it that any internet troll , like the ones on PDF , can go and edit the info

Check out the following link regarding the official article on IAF

Indian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fighter and multi-role combat aircraft

Sukhoi Su-30MKI
The fighter aircraft in the IAF inventory are the primary means to achieve and maintain air supremacy over the battle field. These aircraft are designed for air-to-air combat in order to achieve their goals.

The Sukhoi Su-30MKI is the IAF's primary air superiority fighter with the capability to conduct strike missions. The IAF have placed an order for a total of 272 Su-30MKIs of which 159 are in service as of June 2011.

The Mikoyan MiG-29 known as Baaz (Hindi for Hawk) is the IAF's dedicated air superiority fighter and forms the second line of defence for the IAF after the Sukhoi Su-30MKI. The IAF operates 69 MiG-29s, all of which are currently being upgraded to the MiG-29UPG standard.

The Dassault Mirage 2000, known as Vajra (Sanskrit for Thunderbolt) in Indian service, is the IAF's primary multirole fighter. The IAF currently operates 51 Mirage 2000Hs.

The Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 serves as an Interceptor aircraft in the IAF. The IAF currently operates about 200 MiG-21s, 121 of which have been upgraded to MiG-21 Bison standard.[102] While the MiG-21 Bison is likely to be in service till 2017, the remaining aircraft are expected to be phased out by 2013. The MiG-21s are planned to be replaced by the indigenously built HAL Tejas.

Strike, attack and close support aircraft

SEPECAT Jaguar
These are military aircraft designed to attack targets on the ground. They are often deployed as close air support for, and in proximity to, their own ground forces, requiring precision strikes from these aircraft.

The SEPECAT Jaguar known as Shamsher and the Mikoyan MiG-27 known as Bahadur (Hindi for Valiant) serve as the IAF's primary ground attack forceThe IAF currently operates 139 Jaguars and over 100 MiG-27s.



Now compare the info with that given in the article on Indian Air force fleet

List of aircraft of the Indian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why is there a huge difference in number ,
I mean IAF could not have inducted 29 Su30MKI in the span of 7 Months
Also according to the above article , India is still inducting Jaguars , which I think is absurd , even though IAF had placed orders for Jaguar aircrafts in yr 1999 for 17 Jaguar IS and in 2001 for additional 20 Jaguar IS , though there was reports regarding IAF looking to order another 47 New Built Jaguars in 2007 , this was in order to reduce the shortfall which would occur due to retirement of 100 odd Mig27 by 2017 , but I thought that this deal was scraped when IAF ordered more MKIs in 2007 and 2010
Also the figure for mig27 is also wrong since we have only like 95 such aircrafts while the article shows 122
Similarly MKIs fleet is around 160 , but it is shown as 130
Mirage 2000H Number stand at 51 ,not 57
Mig29S/SMT fleet stand at 63 , not 69
Jaguar IS/IM fleet is at 136 Not 148 + 14 on order as the article sugest
only the Mig21 number seems accurate since India does operate only 155+ Mig21 , with 2 Sqds being retired recently thanks to Induction of 7th and 8th MKI sqds

Same is the case with rest of the fleet
It actually says that IAF only has 37 HAL Dhruvs , thats like saying that IAF has inducted only 4 Dhruvs in last 2 yrs , also Mi 8/17 fleet is at 130 Aircrafts ,not 110

Same can be said about IAF Transport fleet where some of the aircrafts are not even mentioned while some are actually added

To me it looks like some of our friendly neighbourhood trolls had a field day with these figures , Yes the same one who state that PAF has 530 Fighters on Wiki and PDF
Also can some senior member like SPARK edit them appropriately

 

[truthseeker2010]

I have a question
Who actually edits wikipedia , specially defence related info

Is there any qualification or other critaria , or is it that any internet troll , like the ones on PDF , can go and edit the info

Check out the following link regarding the official article on IAF

Indian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fighter and multi-role combat aircraft

Sukhoi Su-30MKI
The fighter aircraft in the IAF inventory are the primary means to achieve and maintain air supremacy over the battle field. These aircraft are designed for air-to-air combat in order to achieve their goals.

The Sukhoi Su-30MKI is the IAF's primary air superiority fighter with the capability to conduct strike missions. The IAF have placed an order for a total of 272 Su-30MKIs of which 159 are in service as of June 2011.

The Mikoyan MiG-29 known as Baaz (Hindi for Hawk) is the IAF's dedicated air superiority fighter and forms the second line of defence for the IAF after the Sukhoi Su-30MKI. The IAF operates 69 MiG-29s, all of which are currently being upgraded to the MiG-29UPG standard.

The Dassault Mirage 2000, known as Vajra (Sanskrit for Thunderbolt) in Indian service, is the IAF's primary multirole fighter. The IAF currently operates 51 Mirage 2000Hs.

The Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 serves as an Interceptor aircraft in the IAF. The IAF currently operates about 200 MiG-21s, 121 of which have been upgraded to MiG-21 Bison standard.[102] While the MiG-21 Bison is likely to be in service till 2017, the remaining aircraft are expected to be phased out by 2013. The MiG-21s are planned to be replaced by the indigenously built HAL Tejas.

Strike, attack and close support aircraft

SEPECAT Jaguar
These are military aircraft designed to attack targets on the ground. They are often deployed as close air support for, and in proximity to, their own ground forces, requiring precision strikes from these aircraft.

The SEPECAT Jaguar known as Shamsher and the Mikoyan MiG-27 known as Bahadur (Hindi for Valiant) serve as the IAF's primary ground attack forceThe IAF currently operates 139 Jaguars and over 100 MiG-27s.



Now compare the info with that given in the article on Indian Air force fleet

List of aircraft of the Indian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why is there a huge difference in number ,
I mean IAF could not have inducted 29 Su30MKI in the span of 7 Months
Also according to the above article , India is still inducting Jaguars , which I think is absurd , even though IAF had placed orders for Jaguar aircrafts in yr 1999 for 17 Jaguar IS and in 2001 for additional 20 Jaguar IS , though there was reports regarding IAF looking to order another 47 New Built Jaguars in 2007 , this was in order to reduce the shortfall which would occur due to retirement of 100 odd Mig27 by 2017 , but I thought that this deal was scraped when IAF ordered more MKIs in 2007 and 2010
Also the figure for mig27 is also wrong since we have only like 95 such aircrafts while the article shows 122
Similarly MKIs fleet is around 160 , but it is shown as 130
Mirage 2000H Number stand at 51 ,not 57
Mig29S/SMT fleet stand at 63 , not 69
Jaguar IS/IM fleet is at 136 Not 148 + 14 on order as the article sugest
only the Mig21 number seems accurate since India does operate only 155+ Mig21 , with 2 Sqds being retired recently thanks to Induction of 7th and 8th MKI sqds

Same is the case with rest of the fleet
It actually says that IAF only has 37 HAL Dhruvs , thats like saying that IAF has inducted only 4 Dhruvs in last 2 yrs , also Mi 8/17 fleet is at 130 Aircrafts ,not 110

Same can be said about IAF Transport fleet where some of the aircrafts are not even mentioned while some are actually added

To me it looks like some of our friendly neighbourhood trolls had a field day with these figures , Yes the same one who state that PAF has 530 Fighters on Wiki and PDF
Also can some senior member like SPARK edit them appropriately

I think its an open encyclopedia, anyone can edit it.

 

[ejaz007]

2nd Indian AF Jet Crashes Within a Week
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI
Published: 5 Aug 2011 09:34

NEW DELHI - The Indian Air Force suffered further fleet depletion with the loss of two aircraft within a week. The latest crash involved a British Jaguar on Aug. 5; a Russian-made MiG-21 went down Aug. 2.

In 2010, 10 Air Force aircraft crashes occurred, including four MiG-27s and two MiG-21s.

A senior Air Force official said nearly 500 MiG variant aircraft, mostly MiG-21 combat aircraft, have been lost since they were bought from the former Soviet Union. The official attributed nearly 40 percent of the crashes to human error, saying pilot training schedules have been disrupted because there are no advance jet trainers and there is a shortage of basic trainers.

The Defence Ministry has contracted with BAE Systems to buy its Hawk advance jet trainers.

All the basic trainers have been grounded for over a year due to technical snags, and the replacements have yet to come in. In June, the Defence Ministry selected the Swiss Pilatus PC-7 to replace its basic trainers. However, no contract has been inked, Defence Ministry sources said. In July 2010, all of the 140 basic trainers, called Deepak trainers, were grounded for technical problems with the engines.

Deepak trainers form Stage 1 of the pilots' training schedule. The Air Force official said that even the Stage 2 trainer, the Kiran, is obsolete and needs replacement. The homemade Intermediate Jet Trainer is three years behind schedule.

"Delays in procurement of trainer aircraft, lack of spares and technical snags are the major reasons for the crash of IAF aircraft," said Bhim Singh, retired Indian Air Force wing commander.

2nd Indian AF Jet Crashes Within a Week - Defense News