Indian Air Force News & Discussions

[sancho]

Interesting news from the Paris Air show:

ndian aircraft manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) has ordered 107 Sigma 95 navigation systems kits from Sagem (Safran) for the Indian Air Force’s combat aircraft.

Developed and produced by Sagem, Sigma 95 is an autonomous hybrid inertial navigation system combining laser gyros and GPS/Glonass* satellite navigation. It ensures high-precision navigation and broad operational flexibility for both combat and special-mission aircraft.

Two-thirds of the systems in this order will be manufacturered in India by HAL, further cementing the partnership agreeement on navigation systems signed by Sagem and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd...

SAFRAN


Not sure for which fighters these are meant for, also interesting...

...Rafael presented their new SPICE 250 PGM, which is similar to SDB or AASM 125 and could be a perfect choice for IAFs M2K-5 upgrade, possibly for Rafale and defenitely for the FGFA, since it can carry them in quadpacks in a small size:

 

[nomi007]

seriously i m jealous
but congrats to Indian members

 

[Abingdonboy]

Interesting news from the Paris Air show:



SAFRAN


Not sure for which fighters these are meant for, also interesting...

...Rafael presented their new SPICE 250 PGM, which is similar to SDB or AASM 125 and could be a perfect choice for IAFs M2K-5 upgrade, possibly for Rafale and defenitely for the FGFA, since it can carry them in quadpacks in a small size:

The IAF were after such stand-off PGMs for the Rafale and Super MKI- where they not @sancho?

 

[sancho]

The IAF were after such stand-off PGMs for the Rafale and Super MKI- where they not @sancho?

IAF so far used only 500 and 1000 Kg bombs, but the trend in recent wars is to smaller payloads, in higher numbers, with less colataral damage and more precision. They added the SPICE 2000 to the Mirage upgrade so far and the twin pylon for dual 250Kg LGBs is also likey, more useful however would be a quadpack with these SPICE kits. The Rafale could even carry 12 x SPICE 250s.
The new weapon package for the MKI upgrade is not decided yet, but it's interesting that they show a Flanker in their video with SPICE 250s quadpacks too. An MKI might even be able to carry 20 x SPICE 250s ! ! !

 

[SR-91]

With 20 Spice 250s,One Flanker can easily destroy an entire airbase.

 

[sancho]

With 20 Spice 250s,One Flanker can easily destroy an entire airbase.

At least damaging it largly, since these are small payloads, however would be very impressing and that from up to 100Km distance.

 

[sancho]

India's Avro replacement fails to lift off

India's plan to replace its aged Avro turboprop general purpose airliner with an off-the-shelf foreign-designed but Indian-made product looks highly unlikely, DefenseNews.com reported.

An investigation by DefenseNews found major aircraft makers -- including Boeing and Lockheed Martin -- have little interest, at least so far, in the $3 billion tender issued last month by the Indian government.

Also, no Indian company has teamed up with a foreign company to consider tendering for a replacement for the twin-engine Avro, some of which were inducted into the military in the 1960s, DefenseNews reported...

...Part of the problem may be the numbers of aircraft are not sufficient for economies of scale.

A senior executive with Larsen & Toubro told DefenseNews unless India doubles the number and awards a 25-year maintenance contract to the Indian partner, the project doesn't appear viable....

India's Avro replacement fails to lift off - UPI.com

 

[sancho]

Upgraded Light/Medium Transports From Airbus Military

...Perhaps the most important opportunity is the potential sale to India of 56 C295s. The Indian Air Force wants to replace its elderly Avro 748 transports, and issued a request for proposals in May. A local sales and assembly partner is needed so that Airbus Military can meet a requirement for 60 percent of the content to be placed with Indian companies. “Fifty-six aircraft justifies the creation of a line, we did it in Turkey previously,” stated Tentor. “And fifty-six aircraft, we believe, is not the end of the story. India is a strategic country. We will invest there with a long-term view.”

Upgraded Light/Medium Transports From Airbus Military | Aviation International News

 

[Abingdonboy]

Upgraded Light/Medium Transports From Airbus Military | Aviation International News

Hmm, VERY interesting. Airbus say 56/40 units justifies an Indian production line but we've been hearing this number is too small from Indian companies. I know who I'd more readily believe!

 

[sudhir007]

@sancho
the cost of c-295 is around $28 million. But i did not understand why when we purchase it will increase 3-4 time more

An investigation by DefenseNews found major aircraft makers -- including Boeing and Lockheed Martin -- have little interest, at least so far, in the $3 billion tender issued last month by the Indian government.

as per wiki

The Philippine government is considering the purchase of a number of Indonesian-made military aircraft following a visit of the Indonesian Vice Defence Minister who arrived on one of the aircraft that the country is promoting. The Defense Undersecretary, Pio Lorenzo Batino, said that they are making preparations to acquire the aircraft through a government to government transaction with Indonesia. The aircraft is valued at US$28 million each

 

[Abingdonboy]

@sancho
the cost of c-295 is around $28 million. But i did not understand why when we purchase it will increase 3-4 time more


as per wiki

Unit costs will vary depending on the model and economic conditions. Addtionally the $3 BN figure includes start-up costs, training, spares etc etc.

 

[sancho]

Hmm, VERY interesting. Airbus say 56/40 units justifies an Indian production line but we've been hearing this number is too small from Indian companies. I know who I'd more readily believe!

As I often said, adding privat Indian companies is not a simple solution, since they are driven by making money in first place, not supporting the forces or Indian defence. Indian privat companies will get a part of the share and obviously wants more, to gain more of course, that's why we see these comments from them (or the issues in MMRCA caused by Reliance now).

@sancho
the cost of c-295 is around $28 million. But i did not understand why when we purchase it will increase 3-4 time more


as per wiki

Fly away cost possibly, last price I heared for the MPA version was $50 millions (Sea Herc $100 million, P8I $260 million) systemcost. Not to mention that a licence production in India will add additional costs too.

 

[sancho]

First real pic of the SPICE 250, hope IAF takes a good look at it!

 

[sancho]

Interesting news from the Paris Air show:



SAFRAN

More from Sagem an HAL:

Sagem and HAL to create Indian manufacturing and service centre

State-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) has entered into an agreement with France's Sagem to set up a manufacturing and service centre to support HAL aircraft being developed and produced for the Indian armed forces.

A statement by HAL said that, under a contract arrangement signed at the Paris Air Show on 20 June, Sagem will transfer technologies to HAL to enable the Indian company to provide in-house production and maintenance of line-replacement units (LRUs) for automatic flight-control systems (AFCS) on board HAL aircraft...

Sagem and HAL to create Indian manufacturing and service centre - IHS Jane's 360

 

[silent poison]

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