Indian Air Force committed ''stupid mistakes'' on 27 FEB: EX-IAF Chief BS Dhanoa

[Khanate]

Fantastic tea and further humiliation awaits you!

 

[Yaseen1]

i think indian airforce had tried this but were defeated and their fighter jets were shot down in response on 27 feb so it is better he accept his defeat in this regard

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

While their pseudo-nazi PM was seeing clouds offering cover to his jets from being knocked out of the night sky before the jig was up to getting knocked over in broad daylight the next day. The anticlimax was way too rude for BS rejiggering mental masterbation to bring about a satisfying end. Alas!

 

[undercover JIX]

BS never stops...but Modi said raphael hota to hamari phat kay galay mae na aati

 

[Bratva]

We Were Ready To Strike Pak Army Brigades Day After Balakot: Ex-Air Chief BS Dhanoa
''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February, the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa said.
All IndiaWritten by Vishnu SomUpdated: December 15, 2019 08:35 IST


Ex-Air Force Chief BS Dhanoa said only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure were targeted

New Delhi:
In his first remarks since he retired earlier this year, former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa has said that India was on the verge of escalating the conflict along the Line of Control (LoC) had the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) struck targets on Indian territory a day after the IAF strike on Balakot on February 26 this year.

''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February (a day after India struck the Jaish-e-Mohammed camp near Balakot), the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' he said.

In other words, the Indian Air Force (IAF) was ready to escalate the conflict between India and Pakistan by targeting major Pakistani military formations, not just posts along the LoC, a scenario which could have resulted in open war between the two nuclear armed neighbours.

As it turned out, the Pakistani Air Force did not hit a single military target in the Rajouri-Poonch sector that it targeted despite launching precision guided bombs from their upgraded Mirage fighter aircraft. The Pakistan government has always claimed that the retaliatory attacks on February 27 were meant to demonstrate intent and capability, not an attempt to escalate tensions between India and Pakistan.

Neither was India ready to ''pick a fight'' with Pakistan when the Indian Air Force launched its February 26 attack on the Jaish-e-Mohammed terror camp in retaliation for the Pulwama terror attack on February 14, in which 40 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) soldiers were killed in a suicide bomb attack.

Speaking in public for the first time on the military options the Indian Air Force had available, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said the Air Force targeted only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure. Had that not been the case, the Air Force had the option of using the far more potent BrahMos supersonic strike missile.

''The Sukhoi 30-BrahMos combination and surface to surface BrahMos were operational. But the warhead size is large. It was not a military target. It was not a kill all, destroy all mission,'' said the former Air Force chief.

Speaking about the planning of the armed forces after the Pulwama terror attack, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa, who retired on September 30 this year said, ''All three services gave an assurance that should it escalate, we are ready for it.''

Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa (retired) was speaking at the military literature festival in Chandigarh.

Balakot was specifically targeted since the Indian Air Force believed the Pakistani Air Force was ''not in the loop'' about the terror training activities at the facility.

Had the PAF been informed, they would ''have definitely beefed up their terminal defences''. In other words, they would have deployed surface to air missile units to intercept any incoming Indian fighter jets.

Responding to reports that the Indian Air Force had missed it target when it launched Spice 2000 satellite guided bombs against the Jaish facility, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (Retired) claimed ''operational capability involved in our execution of the Balakot attacks and our intelligence capability cannot be compromised just to win a perception battle in the media.''

International military observers, relying on satellite images available in public, have stated that there was no evidence of the Indian Air Force hitting its targets. The Indian Air Force for its part, has argued that the satellite imagery that these experts were relying on did not provide the resolution to detect the impact of the bunker-buster variant of the Spice 2000 bombs it had used, weapons that penetrate a certain depth before exploding, in the process killing human targets inside a building while not necessarily bringing down the entire structure.

''Initial assessment of international agencies relying on open source imagery were way off the mark,'' said the former Chief. ''They didn't know our aim points and secondly, they didn't know the weapon that we have used,'' he added.

The former Indian Air Force Chief has also admitted that the Indian Air Force committed ''stupid mistakes'' when the Pakistani Air Force launched its retaliatory strikes against India a day after the Balakot strike.

''We could not impose significant costs on the PAF on the 27th of February,'' he said.

In the context of air battles in the subcontinent, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said ''technology matters''.

An Indian Air Force MiG-21 'Bison' commanded by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman was shot down by an F-16 belonging to the Pakistani Air Force in the air battle along the LoC on February 27 after which Abhinandan Varthaman was taken into custody by Pakistani forces.

Though the Wing Commander was able to shoot down a Pakistani F-16 moments before being downed himself, the Indian Air Force believes it was at an operational disadvantage vis-a-vis the Pakistani Air Force, which fired US-made AMRAAM missiles which outranged anything in service with the Indian Air Force's interceptors on that day.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bs-...kistan-army-brigades-day-after-balako-2148986

 

[YeBeWarned]

This shows, that even a decorated Armed forces personnel has no self respect, honor and Dignity .. Just keep lying about F-16, we are not interested in your BS , BS Dhanoa ..

IAF dropped its payload in haste, has they been intercepted and shot down on 26th which could escalate because as some members claim that IAF was on full alert and waiting for PAF to cross the LoC, it was sensible decision by PAF after examining the damage done by IAF, there was no Pakistani death's, no Soldier or Military installations was hit, hence it would be disastrous for Pakistan in case we actually blast , 80-100 Indian soldiers, It was sensible to not hit those Brigade HQ's , just put the Fear of PAF in their hearts . Our message was loud and clear, next time you did something stupid, we will not spare you cause we have Will and Capability to do so .

 

[fitpOsitive]

We Were Ready To Strike Pak Army Brigades Day After Balakot: Ex-Air Chief BS Dhanoa
''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February, the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa said.
All IndiaWritten by Vishnu SomUpdated: December 15, 2019 08:35 IST


Ex-Air Force Chief BS Dhanoa said only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure were targeted

New Delhi:
In his first remarks since he retired earlier this year, former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa has said that India was on the verge of escalating the conflict along the Line of Control (LoC) had the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) struck targets on Indian territory a day after the IAF strike on Balakot on February 26 this year.

''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February (a day after India struck the Jaish-e-Mohammed camp near Balakot), the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' he said.

In other words, the Indian Air Force (IAF) was ready to escalate the conflict between India and Pakistan by targeting major Pakistani military formations, not just posts along the LoC, a scenario which could have resulted in open war between the two nuclear armed neighbours.

As it turned out, the Pakistani Air Force did not hit a single military target in the Rajouri-Poonch sector that it targeted despite launching precision guided bombs from their upgraded Mirage fighter aircraft. The Pakistan government has always claimed that the retaliatory attacks on February 27 were meant to demonstrate intent and capability, not an attempt to escalate tensions between India and Pakistan.

Neither was India ready to ''pick a fight'' with Pakistan when the Indian Air Force launched its February 26 attack on the Jaish-e-Mohammed terror camp in retaliation for the Pulwama terror attack on February 14, in which 40 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) soldiers were killed in a suicide bomb attack.

Speaking in public for the first time on the military options the Indian Air Force had available, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said the Air Force targeted only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure. Had that not been the case, the Air Force had the option of using the far more potent BrahMos supersonic strike missile.

''The Sukhoi 30-BrahMos combination and surface to surface BrahMos were operational. But the warhead size is large. It was not a military target. It was not a kill all, destroy all mission,'' said the former Air Force chief.

Speaking about the planning of the armed forces after the Pulwama terror attack, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa, who retired on September 30 this year said, ''All three services gave an assurance that should it escalate, we are ready for it.''

Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa (retired) was speaking at the military literature festival in Chandigarh.

Balakot was specifically targeted since the Indian Air Force believed the Pakistani Air Force was ''not in the loop'' about the terror training activities at the facility.

Had the PAF been informed, they would ''have definitely beefed up their terminal defences''. In other words, they would have deployed surface to air missile units to intercept any incoming Indian fighter jets.

Responding to reports that the Indian Air Force had missed it target when it launched Spice 2000 satellite guided bombs against the Jaish facility, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (Retired) claimed ''operational capability involved in our execution of the Balakot attacks and our intelligence capability cannot be compromised just to win a perception battle in the media.''

International military observers, relying on satellite images available in public, have stated that there was no evidence of the Indian Air Force hitting its targets. The Indian Air Force for its part, has argued that the satellite imagery that these experts were relying on did not provide the resolution to detect the impact of the bunker-buster variant of the Spice 2000 bombs it had used, weapons that penetrate a certain depth before exploding, in the process killing human targets inside a building while not necessarily bringing down the entire structure.

''Initial assessment of international agencies relying on open source imagery were way off the mark,'' said the former Chief. ''They didn't know our aim points and secondly, they didn't know the weapon that we have used,'' he added.

The former Indian Air Force Chief has also admitted that the Indian Air Force committed ''stupid mistakes'' when the Pakistani Air Force launched its retaliatory strikes against India a day after the Balakot strike.

''We could not impose significant costs on the PAF on the 27th of February,'' he said.

In the context of air battles in the subcontinent, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said ''technology matters''.

An Indian Air Force MiG-21 'Bison' commanded by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman was shot down by an F-16 belonging to the Pakistani Air Force in the air battle along the LoC on February 27 after which Abhinandan Varthaman was taken into custody by Pakistani forces.

Though the Wing Commander was able to shoot down a Pakistani F-16 moments before being downed himself, the Indian Air Force believes it was at an operational disadvantage vis-a-vis the Pakistani Air Force, which fired US-made AMRAAM missiles which outranged anything in service with the Indian Air Force's interceptors on that day.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bs-...kistan-army-brigades-day-after-balako-2148986

This Mr BS think that we didn't have a plan for full escalation too. Army was even readier. That's the reason why army reached to pick Mr Abhinandan within 5 mintutes of his landing.

 

[Trailer23]

I guess we'll just have to wait for: Stupid Mistakes 2020.

 

[truthseeker2010]

We Were Ready To Strike Pak Army Brigades Day After Balakot: Ex-Air Chief BS Dhanoa
''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February, the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa said.
All IndiaWritten by Vishnu SomUpdated: December 15, 2019 08:35 IST


Ex-Air Force Chief BS Dhanoa said only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure were targeted

New Delhi:
In his first remarks since he retired earlier this year, former Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa has said that India was on the verge of escalating the conflict along the Line of Control (LoC) had the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) struck targets on Indian territory a day after the IAF strike on Balakot on February 26 this year.

''Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February (a day after India struck the Jaish-e-Mohammed camp near Balakot), the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' he said.

In other words, the Indian Air Force (IAF) was ready to escalate the conflict between India and Pakistan by targeting major Pakistani military formations, not just posts along the LoC, a scenario which could have resulted in open war between the two nuclear armed neighbours.

As it turned out, the Pakistani Air Force did not hit a single military target in the Rajouri-Poonch sector that it targeted despite launching precision guided bombs from their upgraded Mirage fighter aircraft. The Pakistan government has always claimed that the retaliatory attacks on February 27 were meant to demonstrate intent and capability, not an attempt to escalate tensions between India and Pakistan.

Neither was India ready to ''pick a fight'' with Pakistan when the Indian Air Force launched its February 26 attack on the Jaish-e-Mohammed terror camp in retaliation for the Pulwama terror attack on February 14, in which 40 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) soldiers were killed in a suicide bomb attack.

Speaking in public for the first time on the military options the Indian Air Force had available, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said the Air Force targeted only specific elements of the Jaish terror infrastructure. Had that not been the case, the Air Force had the option of using the far more potent BrahMos supersonic strike missile.

''The Sukhoi 30-BrahMos combination and surface to surface BrahMos were operational. But the warhead size is large. It was not a military target. It was not a kill all, destroy all mission,'' said the former Air Force chief.

Speaking about the planning of the armed forces after the Pulwama terror attack, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa, who retired on September 30 this year said, ''All three services gave an assurance that should it escalate, we are ready for it.''

Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa (retired) was speaking at the military literature festival in Chandigarh.

Balakot was specifically targeted since the Indian Air Force believed the Pakistani Air Force was ''not in the loop'' about the terror training activities at the facility.

Had the PAF been informed, they would ''have definitely beefed up their terminal defences''. In other words, they would have deployed surface to air missile units to intercept any incoming Indian fighter jets.

Responding to reports that the Indian Air Force had missed it target when it launched Spice 2000 satellite guided bombs against the Jaish facility, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (Retired) claimed ''operational capability involved in our execution of the Balakot attacks and our intelligence capability cannot be compromised just to win a perception battle in the media.''

International military observers, relying on satellite images available in public, have stated that there was no evidence of the Indian Air Force hitting its targets. The Indian Air Force for its part, has argued that the satellite imagery that these experts were relying on did not provide the resolution to detect the impact of the bunker-buster variant of the Spice 2000 bombs it had used, weapons that penetrate a certain depth before exploding, in the process killing human targets inside a building while not necessarily bringing down the entire structure.

''Initial assessment of international agencies relying on open source imagery were way off the mark,'' said the former Chief. ''They didn't know our aim points and secondly, they didn't know the weapon that we have used,'' he added.

The former Indian Air Force Chief has also admitted that the Indian Air Force committed ''stupid mistakes'' when the Pakistani Air Force launched its retaliatory strikes against India a day after the Balakot strike.

''We could not impose significant costs on the PAF on the 27th of February,'' he said.

In the context of air battles in the subcontinent, Air Chief Marshal Dhanoa (retired) said ''technology matters''.

An Indian Air Force MiG-21 'Bison' commanded by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman was shot down by an F-16 belonging to the Pakistani Air Force in the air battle along the LoC on February 27 after which Abhinandan Varthaman was taken into custody by Pakistani forces.

Though the Wing Commander was able to shoot down a Pakistani F-16 moments before being downed himself, the Indian Air Force believes it was at an operational disadvantage vis-a-vis the Pakistani Air Force, which fired US-made AMRAAM missiles which outranged anything in service with the Indian Air Force's interceptors on that day.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bs-...kistan-army-brigades-day-after-balako-2148986

This man was the head of IAF, the people who committed "stupid mistakes" were rewarded with medals, on his recommendation.

I don't know about others but IAF is definitely a disgrace in the military world.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Danoa is lying because according to his Hindu extremist boss, the air force did not have the Rafales to fend off Pakistani retaliation.

 

[aliyusuf]

Indians need capacity building. Their IAF personnel i.e. from top brass to technician ... are caliber wise lagging as a whole to the personnel of the PAF. So bandar ke haath naryal lagega tou kiya hoga? Rafale won't be utilized to it's fullest by the Indians and their war fighting capabilities will not save them from another beating. Rafale or no Rafale.

 

[DrWatson775]

This shows, that even a decorated Armed forces personnel has no self respect, honor and Dignity .. Just keep lying about F-16, we are not interested in your BS , BS Dhanoa ..

IAF dropped its payload in haste, has they been intercepted and shot down on 26th which could escalate because as some members claim that IAF was on full alert and waiting for PAF to cross the LoC, it was sensible decision by PAF after examining the damage done by IAF, there was no Pakistani death's, no Soldier or Military installations was hit, hence it would be disastrous for Pakistan in case we actually blast , 80-100 Indian soldiers, It was sensible to not hit those Brigade HQ's , just put the Fear of PAF in their hearts . Our message was loud and clear, next time you did something stupid, we will not spare you cause we have Will and Capability to do so .

This was expected from Dhanoa. I wouldnt expect him to go against the govt narrative plus a cushy job may be waiting for him in retirement… .. Or maybe he has one already.

 

[Rafeh]

what is wrong with india?

A country several times larger, with several time larger airforce, and more of things that money can buy, failed to understand that it was much more to do with indian incompetency than anything else. AMRAAM did not shoot indian fighter aircaft no where near to its maximum range. It was shot down right in Pakistan when Pakistanis aircraft were well within indian missile ranges. Excuses do not make reality go away.

The operation was incompetently planned and executed with one aim: propaganda

Indian were planning to drop few bombs in empty hills somewhere and then go home telling the world that they just hit some [non-exiting] militant targets. That did not happen. Instead they were hit.

Instead Indians were dragged in air warfare by a very alert, confident, courageous and competent adversary.

It requires far greater courage to hit back at a much bigger and much more well equipped country than attacking a much smaller enemy.

They should learn to give credit where the credit is due.

They lost the air battle and were forced out of Pakistan. They were made so much afraid that rest of months that followed, they were asking americans to "stop" pakistan" using at least F-16. If they had influence, they would have gone begging to china too, preventing JF-17 flying against them. Instead of having confidence and resolve to confront their enemy, they tell stories like a village woman, going on and on rather than taking action.

That's not an honorable response. Instead if it was Pakistan, we would have analyzed our failure and learned to become perhaps more competent.

Pakistan in all appearance appears more confident, more professional with far greater and genuine sense of supremacy even with smaller number of resources.

Its less about technology (in some areas they have more of it in reality) and more about competency and self confidence, and unshakable sense of supremacy over the enemy (either racial, competency based, value based, or resolve driven etc.). Its about the resolve to bring the enemy down no matter what the cost, because one believes one can.

That factor india seems to be missing altogether. Next missile or next aircraft is suppose to make indians super warriors with high degree of competency. It does not work that way.

May be they need to upgrade themselves and their psyche rather than their weapons all the time.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I guess we'll just have to wait for: Stupid Mistakes 2020.

Coming to a theater near you! Packed with action and comedy.

what is wrong with india?

A country several times larger, with several time larger airforce, and more of things that money can buy, failed to understand that it was much more to do with indian incompetency than anything else. AMRAAM did not shoot indian fighter aircaft no where near to its maximum range. It was shot down right in Pakistan when Pakistanis aircraft were well within indian missile ranges. Excuses do not make reality go away.

The operation was incompetently planned and executed with one aim: propaganda

Indian were planning to drop few bombs in empty hills somewhere and then go home telling the world that they just hit some [non-exiting] militant targets. That did not happen. Instead they were hit.

Instead Indians were dragged in air warfare by a very alert, confident, courageous and competent adversary.

They should learn to give credit where the credit is due.

They lost the air battle and were forced out of Pakistan. They were made so much afraid that rest of months that followed, they were asking americans to "stop" pakistan" using at least F-16. If they had influence, they would have gone begging to china too, preventing JF-17 flying against them. Instead of having confidence and resolve to confront their enemy, they tell stories like a village woman, going on and on rather than taking action.

That's not an honorable response. Instead if it was Pakistan, we would have analyzed our failure and learned to become perhaps more competent.

Pakistan in all appearance appears more confident, more professional with far greater and genuine sense of supremacy even with smaller number of resources.

Its less about technology (they have more of it in reality) and more about competency and self confidence, and unshakable sense of supremacy over the enemy (either racial, competency based, value based, or resolve driven etc.). Its about the resolve to bring the enemy down no matter what the cost, because one believes one can.

That factor india seems to be missing altogether. Next missile or next aircraft is suppose to make indians super warriors with high degree of competency. It does not work that way.

May be they need to upgrade themselves and their psyche rather than their weapons all the time.

The simpler question to ask would be. What is not wrong with india?

 

[Wikki019]

Some days back an Indian was teaching me how their communication is linked with satellites and how they can read time on wrist watch of every Pakistani and Pakistan cant jam communication. Only one Question do you guys have any shame?

IAF lacked ODL during Balakot strike, fighter jets went incommunicado ..

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