India will have the 3rd most Powerful Navy in the world by 2030

[GuardianRED]

Though not fond of articles such as this that predicts the future!... as the same time we do know the IN is not the IAF or IA and has a much better planning, so it maybe true as what the article say only abt the IN.

Please do rule out the RuN , they too are in the process of modernization, they have the most powerful frigate ie the Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate and my personal favorite the Kirov class cruisers , what a beauty and insanely powerful!

UK SSNs will be the game changer. They will be 1-2 generations ahead of anything the Indians have in 2030.

The 13 Type-26 frigates will be a beast and on par with Indian destroyers due to their 24 Mk-41 cells and 48 CAMM anti-air missiles loadout.

I have serious doubts abt the RN!!! .... yes they will have a the carriers and the SSNs, BUT are they Reliable!?

Heck !!! I was damn surprise to read abt the Type 45s!!!!! ... imagine a close to a billion $$ and can't operate in areas where the Climate Temp is high!!!

 

[MKC]

I won't say IN will be 3rd most powerful by 2030 but 4th most powerful for sure & difference between 4th & 5th will be big.
INS Vishal may not become operational in 2030 but number of destroyers will be more than 20 not 9 as blogger assumed.
12 out of 14 current frigates will be operational in 2030.

Lol do not underestimate Russian navy like this they do not flaunt aircraft careers but the have cost effective force multipliers for every trick up the sleeves of NATO so showing them behind India is being too naive

You are right but their latest frigate, lada-class projects & some other projects are not on right path.
Population of Russia will decrease further increasing pressure on economy.
Whatever happen Indian econonmy can't go down till 2030.

These are all projections and projections can go wrong..

Yes, you are right but these aren't meteorological projections.
Population of Russia is decreasing & IN can come close to RN even if Indian economy increases at 3% per year which is very low.

2003...... india will be flying most advanced 126 MMRCAs in next few years......and in 2016 india is still flying Mig 21.

Problems were on negotiations not about money & intentions.
Plan was for 189 MMRCA not 126. & every year IAF returned almost alloted budget to finance ministry.

Indian Navy is dependent on Russia, so how would they become ahead of Russia?
Its like saying, India will be super power in 2012...!

List of active Indian Navy ships
GO through the list & components used in ships & check how much is IN dependent on Russia?
Only INS Vikramaditya & Talwar class are imported from Russia & all other ships are made in India.
By 2020 IN will replace most of Russian missile with BrahMos.

Do you have any idea about current Russian navy ? It has become a rust navy. They can't even produce a capable frigate on time.

& submarine too.
Lada class.

India cannot catch a man for 25 years but India dreams of being 3rd powerful navy

I think blogger is a Japani.
Can US catch Nawaz Sharif?
No, because he is protected by Pakistan, same goes for Dawood Ibrahim.
You are wrong.
We are dreaming to become most powerful navy in the world, what's your problem?

 

[CorporateAffairs]

First, India must catch/eliminate Dawood Ibrahim

By that time it'll be done.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

The Third Aircraft carrier will take TEN years to make
The design is not complete yet -- we dont know anything about the reactor ie
who will make it ; so much uncertainity


I really wish we make ANOTHER Vikrant at Cochin Shipyard

 

[MKC]

The person that wrote the article knows very little about military affairs. He thinks that just because India will have the 3rd largest economy by 2030, then this must mean that it will also have the 3rd most powerful Navy. What he does not take into account is quality. See below comparison of UK and India:

UK and India should be similar in terms of aircraft carriers as the 2 large UK carriers will be equivalent to the 1 large and 2 smaller Indian carriers. Where the UK has a MASSIVE advantage is that the UK will have cutting-edge SSNs and that is something that in 2030, the Indians will be far behind in.

So the real list will look more like this IMO:

1. US
2. China
3. UK = Russia
4. India = France

I just posted article not claimed he is right.
Well, I think JMSF will be more powerful than RN & French Navy even we count SSN/SSBN.
Comparing RN with IN
CV - equal
SSBN- IN will have more or equal to RN
SSN - RN will be ahead
SSK - RN(00) vs IN(9xScorpenes + 6xP75I) by 2027
Amphibious warfare - IN will be ahead
Destroyers - RN will remain to 6 while IN will replace Rajput with remaining P15A & P15B & will induct at least 2 in 3 years till 2030. So RN-6 vs IN-10(current)+4(assuming)
Frigates - 8xGCS in IN vs (14-2) today + 7xP17A + 4xTalwar/P17A by 2027
Corvettes - 12xP28/P28A + 6xNGMV + some more by 2025

UK SSNs will be the game changer. They will be 1-2 generations ahead of anything the Indians have in 2030.

The 13 Type-26 frigates will be a beast and on par with Indian destroyers due to their 24 Mk-41 cells and 48 CAMM anti-air missiles loadout.

Count only 8 GCS not 13 & on SSN surely RN will be ahead but IN will have more SSBN & about 6xSSN.

 

[barbarosa]

No tax on dreams.

 

[Indika]

Indian navy will be powerful within Indian ocean. Now just having latest equipment means only half the job done. Deploying it to far places is a tough task done only by US with help of allies.
India surely can overwhelm UK or japan in Indian ocean but far away is a different thing. India along with russia is certainly a force to worth reckoning with. Crocodile is always stronger in water than lion. Comparisons are meaningless without knowing the situation.

 

[Great Sachin]

India cannot catch a man for 25 years but India dreams of being 3rd powerful navy

by 2030 China might have taken those islands from Japan....it is just article....China dreamed thats why they grew so much...dont stop others to dream

 

[grey boy 2]

Congratulation to my dear Indian friends for their extra ordinary accomplishment for becoming the "3rd Most Powerful Navy" on the planet in the year of "2030"
Keep up the good work, your efforts will not be ignored

 

[Dungeness]

Congratulation to my dear Indian friends for their extra ordinary accomplishment for becoming the "3rd Most Powerful Navy" on the planet in the year of "2030"
Keep up the good work, your efforts will not be ignored

When it comes to future projections, India truly shines!

 

[temporary12345]

UK and India should be similar in terms of aircraft carriers as the 2 large UK carriers will be equivalent to the 1 large and 2 smaller Indian carriers.

How? Seriously.

UK's carrier are STOVL while India would have STOBAR carriers. As carrier hierarchy goes, STOVL are inferior to STOBAR as STOVL impose even more restriction on Aircrafts flying from it than STOBAR (Both are inferior to CATOBAR).

UK's carriers would be flying most troll version of F-35: F-35B. While F-35 has attracted some undeserved criticism, none of criticism for F-35B is undeserved. It ,apart from being fat and having crap stealth in comparison to other F-35s, also suffers from low range, low payload, and have higher maintenance cost than other F-35 versions. US marines is using this aircraft as supporting aircraft to its naval big brother F-35C, but F-35B is primary aircraft for RN. How would this compare against three (or four) IN carriers fielding a mix of Mig-29 and Rafales (and probably F-35C too depending on type of carriers and outcome of negotiations with USA).

+ E2C/D could not be deployed from STOVL aircraft, reducing standalone potency of RN AC's even further.

 

[topgun047]

How? Seriously.

UK's carrier are STOVL while India would have STOBAR carriers. As carrier hierarchy goes, STOVL are inferior to STOBAR as STOVL impose even more restriction on Aircrafts flying from it than STOBAR (Both are inferior to CATOBAR).

UK's carriers would be flying most troll version of F-35: F-35B. While F-35 has attracted some undeserved criticism, none of criticism for F-35B is undeserved. It ,apart from being fat and having crap stealth in comparison to other F-35s, also suffers from low range, low payload, and have higher maintenance cost than other F-35 versions. US marines is using this aircraft as supporting aircraft to its naval big brother F-35C, but F-35B is primary aircraft for RN. How would this compare against three (or four) IN carriers fielding a mix of Mig-29 and Rafales (and probably F-35C too depending on type of carriers and outcome of negotiations with USA).

+ E2C/D could not be deployed from STOVL aircraft, reducing standalone potency of RN AC's even further.

Then why is UK even building such huge carriers ?
To bully smaller nations like Iraq and Libya in cahoots with US ?

 

[NirmalKrish]

These are all projections and projections can go wrong..

like the Pakistani democratic elected dummy government! projections which have gone horribly wrong!

 

[temporary12345]

Then why is UK even building such huge carriers ?
To bully smaller nations like Iraq and Libya in cahoots with US ?

Certainly, Yes.

UK seem to be designing its carriers to operate in conjugation with USN, depending on USN's AWACS and EW assets; pretty much like Japanese Navy. Standalone QE carrier is very weak and does not make any sense, which become starker in view of the fact that by expending just a billion or so more (designing them to original specifications), UK could have had very formidable carriers.

 

[ito]

Duh! This is natural, because as three largest countries in the world with large economies: China, India and US, they can afford to spend money on defence toys.